OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF 3333 CONTINUES...Jobless rate at 3 year low

[Soul Crusher]

Lol!!!   Using the same metHodology as Obama used when he was first selected the UE today is at least 11 percent.  

[Soul Crusher]

no you incredible moron, you are looking at it as two static numbers, ever hear of trends, JESUSSUSUSUSUS.

if 1.1 mill leave next month and 300k are created that is an improvment, its called a recovery. What do you expect it to flip over immediately, no jobs lost and only jobs created? its going to go up and down until the those leaving are less then made, its the trend we are interested in.

Fuck go to school.

No it's not!   That is utter horseshit since a smaller and smaller work force can't keep up w the increasing demands of those not working.   

[Necrosis]

Ill give you they do show a favorable trend to ppl that are uneducated and dont understand why the numbers move.

Now if you understand the reasons behind the moving of the numbers, they arent favorable...

Do you understand that andre?

if both numbers are moving in desired directions thats favorable, its less favorable then some outcomes, obviously, but you cant reach that endpoint until you get there.

Its like morons and evolution, they see a monkey and a human and cant fathom the gradual steps that were required to get there, you guys see more jobs lost then made and exclude the trend or how much that matters.

so are you guys suggesting that the numbers which have always been calculated this way are somehow in favor of obama uniquely? if thats what you are suggesting then prove it, with more the complex fabrications and propaganda. Show me the formula used to calculate this and prove your point, otherwise you sound like hypocrites, which of course you are.

[Necrosis]

No it's not!   That is utter horseshit since a smaller and smaller work force can't keep up w the increasing demands of those not working.   

yes that a variable, you are retarded and think only in absolutes, there are a multitude of factors to complex for your little brain to hold in consciousness concurrently. If you think automation has no role then you are a moron. If you think a shrinking work force is the sole reason you are a moron, if you think that its a mix and that its not a simple as a shrinking workforce and would like to examine the etiology then i agree. I know you don't you want more PROPAGANDA, OBAMA is from kenya, obama blames all of the worlds prolems on ATM's , citing them as evil automatons.

get the fuck outta here and please dont vote.

[Soul Crusher]

yes that a variable, you are retarded and think only in absolutes, there are a multitude of factors to complex for your little brain to hold in consciousness concurrently. If you think automation has no role then you are a moron. If you think a shrinking work force is the sole reason you are a moron, if you think that its a mix and that its not a simple as a shrinking workforce and would like to examine the etiology then i agree. I know you don't you want more PROPAGANDA, OBAMA is from kenya, obama blames all of the worlds prolems on ATM's , citing them as evil automatons.

get the fuck outta here and please dont vote.

A recovery is what again?  We still have not even come close to recovering the jobs lost, let alone have jobs for new entrants in the work force.   

[andreisdaman]

no you incredible moron, you are looking at it as two static numbers, ever hear of trends, JESUSSUSUSUSUS.

if 1.1 mill leave next month and 300k are created that is an improvment, its called a recovery. What do you expect it to flip over immediately, no jobs lost and only jobs created? its going to go up and down until the those leaving are less then made, its the trend we are interested in.

Fuck go to school.

again...great post

[Soul Crusher]

again...great post

Why are they leaving?   When are they coming back?   Who is paying for them now? 

Do you communists supporting obama realize how absurd your position is?  We could have 100 million on food stamps and welfare and 4 percent UE and you idiots would cheer that right?   

[andreisdaman]

Why are they leaving?   When are they coming back?   Who is paying for them now? 

Do you communists supporting obama realize how absurd your position is?  We could have 100 million on food stamps and welfare and 4 percent UE and you idiots would cheer that right?   

why they are leaving, when they are coming back, and who is paying for them now is really none of the government's business...its a free society..how can all of that be determined?...we have the right to go and come as we please and choose to be unemployed if we want to...

no one is a communist...I do support Obama but I try to be as objective as possible......I try to be a voice of reason....I don't support Obama blindly but I do point out when he is being treated unfairly...you unabashedly have an agenda against him..at least you are open about that hence your dozens of anti-Obama threads....but you don't have any credibility due to your lack of objectivity

the trend of more and more people being on food stamps has been going up for years..but all of a sudden thats Obama's fault???

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/12/chart-of-day-food-stamp-recssion-curve.html

[GigantorX]

no you incredible moron, you are looking at it as two static numbers, ever hear of trends, JESUSSUSUSUSUS.

if 1.1 mill leave next month and 300k are created that is an improvment, its called a recovery. What do you expect it to flip over immediately, no jobs lost and only jobs created? its going to go up and down until the those leaving are less then made, its the trend we are interested in.

Fuck go to school.

Fine.

But the trend is also showing that more and more and more people are leaving the workforce. That's a bigger deal than 250k jobs created. Another trend would be many of those jobs being temporary and low wage.

[Soul Crusher]

95er please.    It spiked under Obama and is still increasing.

[GigantorX]

This isn't as much a recovery as it is a transition.

[andreisdaman]

Fine.

But the trend is also showing that more and more and more people are leaving the workforce. That's a bigger deal than 250k jobs created. Another trend would be many of those jobs being temporary and low wage.

I think more and more people are leaving due to lots of people trying to start up their own businesses...going back to school....etc....some are even working off  the books.....

but your point about the creation of low-wage jobs temp positions, and part-time work is well taken

[andreisdaman]

95er please.    It spiked under Obama and is still increasing.

yes it probably did spike under Obama but it coincided with the worse recession we have ever had...so thats normal..look at the chart in the article I posted

[Fury]

I think more and more people are leaving due to lots of people trying to start up their own businesses...going back to school....etc....some are even working off  the books.....

Hahahahah. Whatever helps you sleep at night, you embarrassingly stupid and pathetic drone.

[andreisdaman]

Hahahahah. Whatever helps you sleep at night, you embarrassingly stupid and pathetic drone.

obviously you didn't read the entire thread....when are you going to stop being an idiot???

[Fury]

obviously you didn't read the entire thread....when are you going to stop being an idiot???

So how many of those 1.2 MILLION do you think went back to school or started their own businesses? I read the first few posts and didn't bother with any others as we all know you're retarded.

[GigantorX]

I think more and more people are leaving due to lots of people trying to start up their own businesses...going back to school....etc....some are even working off  the books.....

but your point about the creation of low-wage jobs temp positions, and part-time work is well taken

Ok, I'm sure some of them are doing just that but not enough to account for record low levels of LFPR which I would argue goes somewhat hand in hand with the ever increasing Food Stamp usage and such. I will look for hard numbers about new businesses starting up but I swear I saw some numbers not to long ago and it didn't show a spike or an elevated level, I'll double check. And off the books work is something people do but, again, probably not in the numbers to justify the steep drop in LFP. It spiked 2% in one month, that's not good.

The trend that I see is one to gigantic, omniscient, surveillance oriented govt, a govt. that has more and more of a hand in running an already centrally planned economy....lower standards of living, stagnant/declining wages, a temp. focused workforce and general national stagnation.

[Soul Crusher]

obviously you didn't read the entire thread....when are you going to stop being an idiot???

Andre - I really don't see too many new businesses popping up on Webster ave if you feel me on that.

[Fury]

Ok, I'm sure some of them are doing just that but not enough to account for record low levels of LFPR which I would argue goes somewhat hand in hand with the ever increasing Food Stamp usage and such. I will look for hard numbers about new businesses starting up but I swear I saw some numbers not to long ago and it didn't show a spike or an elevated level, I'll double check. And off the books work is something people do but, again, probably not in the numbers to justify the steep drop in LFP. It spiked 2% in one month, that's not good.

The trend that I see is one to gigantic, omniscient, surveillance oriented govt, a govt. that has more and more of a hand in running an already centrally planned economy....lower standards of living, stagnant/declining wages, a temp. focused workforce and general national stagnation.

We are headed down Japan's road. Two lost decades for them because they're too pussy to make the hard decisions.

[GigantorX]

We are headed down Japan's road. Two lost decades for them because they're too pussy to make the hard decisions.

Two lost decades and counting.

[Soul Crusher]

That is obamas entire plan!   Not make us richer, but make us poorer so we are more like the third world which he comes from.

[Grape Ape]

So according to andre, the large amount of labor participation drop off is all business as usual, because he's thought some additional reasons why people might drop off.

Is this you andre?:

[andreisdaman]

So how many of those 1.2 MILLION do you think went back to school or started their own businesses? I read the first few posts and didn't bother with any others as we all know you're retarded.

well..every time I try to have some respect for you, you revert back to being a fucktard.....I will restate for you since you are too intellectually lazy to read the entire 3 page thread....I wrote that out of the 1.2 million that supposedly left the rolls, its possible that many of them went back to school to sharpen their skills, went back to school to get another degree, got married and no longer had to work due to spouse making enough money to cover family expenses, went back to their country of origin to visit or look for work, are working off the books, are starting their own business due to their being tired of being in the rat race, are living off of savings and don't want to work right now, etc.......doesn't mean that all of those people can't find a job....

my point is neither you nor I can make the claim as to exactly what happened to those who dropped off the rolls...you want to make the assumption that they are all discouraged from looking for work because it fits into your anti-Obama stance.... the numbers are what they are....LIVE WITH IT

[Grape Ape]

my point is neither you nor I can make the claim as to exactly what happened to those who dropped off the rolls...you want to make the assumption that they are all discouraged from looking for work because it fits into your anti-Obama stance.... the numbers are what they are....LIVE WITH IT

No, but you could look for past data to compare it to, and see if it's consistent, rather than make up reasons that you can't back up.

[andreisdaman]

No it's not!   That is utter horseshit since a smaller and smaller work force can't keep up w the increasing demands of those not working.   

there are actually more people than ever working today..its just that our POPULATION has greatly increased...we were at 200 million in the 1980's now we are at over 300 million and counting.....should we have created another 100 million jobs to cover that extra 100 million people???..not possible...so the work force population is relatively smaller and having to take care of more people