A lifetime natural bodybuilder - is this true? Opinions?

[Dr Dutch]

120kg squatting 100kg benching natural freak

Jos is the new John Massis....

[purenaturalstrength]

Jos is the new John Massis....

in that case we will not have to bear his existance much longer

[Domthemilky]

sme thing,, halodrol is just with nice wrap to pass as over counter,, its 80% turinabol the other 20% you just take little more of it,, one of best drug out there and available everywhere to purchas with no dealer lol ,, this cult is FILT!

gh15 approved

which brands of halodrol are legit gh15? I thought alot of it if not all of it is bunk crap? enlighten us poor souls who have no access to dealers 

[DroppingPlates]

120kg squatting 100kg benching natural freak

Hold on, you try to say a natural isn't capable to lift those weights? 

[Domthemilky]

PNS what are ur stats for lifts? i remember you saying you were into olympic lifting for a while?

[DroppingPlates]

i'm just very very very very very very very very very pissed off so many people believe he is natural despite the fact he is obviously a wimp who injured himself with 1x120kg squats and refers to that as "the heavy leg workouts took their toll......"


i mean that is proof right there he wouldnt be anything at all WHATSOEVER without juice


REAL naturals need to suffer suffer hard for the slightest gains


and can of course not achieve this size



it fucking pisses me off so much that i nearly get a brain aneurysm thinging about it


that's why i wanted the gh15 seal of disapproval confirmed liar filt

so everybody must shut up now and accept he is NOT NATURAL


now let me breath deeply and calmly

^
PureNaturalMeltdown

[jaejonna]

As natural as giving women equal rights..... 

[kyomu]

The guy looks like a natural. He has the typical look of natural soft skin like me.

[purenaturalstrength]

Hold on, you try to say a natural isn't capable to lift those weights? 

i'm saying that you have to be on juice to develop any muscle handling these laughable weights

[OptimusPrime1980]

The guy looks like a natural. He has the typical look of natural soft skin like me.

soft skin.... lol...
it's called being a metrosexual......
nothing to do with natural, all with skincreme.... 
he is as natural as you....

[OptimusPrime1980]

The guy looks like a natural. He has the typical look of natural soft skin like me.

soft skin.... lol...
it's called being a metrosexual......
nothing to do with being natural, all to do with skincreme.... 
he is as natural as you.... 

[DroppingPlates]

i'm saying that you have to be on juice to develop any muscle handling these laughable weights

Wrong, hypertrophy is about muscle stimulation; not the same as lifting as much as possible for 1-4 reps. Good rep ranges/% rep max weights for power, strength, hypertrophy & endurance have been discussed here, as much as the "who's better, Ronnie or Dorian?" debate, so I won't start another one.

[purenaturalstrength]

Wrong, hypertrophy is about muscle stimulation; not the same as lifting as much as possible for 1-4 reps. Good rep ranges/% rep max weights for power, strength, hypertrophy & endurance have been discussed here, as much as the "who's better, Ronnie or Dorian?" debate, so I won't start another one.

[aesthetics]

you're quoting from bodybuilding.com, really? PNS i know you are a professional getbig troll but this is a new low for you  


hypertrophy can be from both low and high rep range: sarcomere hypertrophy will mostly caused by high weight low rep, due to muscle tissue breaking down, getting repaired and as a result muscle fibers grow larger in size; or sarcoplasmic hypertrophy, which is from high rep range (and also the large initial weight/strength gain from steroids like superdrol/anadrol) where the cell itself swells larger due to increased fluid/glucose/atp stores inside the cell translating into more energy for the mitochondria to work off of and essentially allowing you to do higher reps but not so much higher 1 rep max (which is increased by steroids due to androgens binding to receptors in the nervous system and increasing motor neural efficiency).

[purenaturalstrength]

you're quoting from bodybuilding.com, really? PNS i know you are a professional getbig troll but this is a new low for you 

i dont know i really think this guy is on to something


he must be a hardcore juicer by the way looking at his stats so he has been on two sides of the fence (natural and enhanced)

[aesthetics]

he is definitely on gear, hahah. i didn't even had to read that i just saw his profile pic and instantly knew just by his side tricep look.

he's wrong about steroids not helping with the CNS, that is one area they help immensely with and overtraining is so overblown i don't think most people will ever experience CNS overload in their life. 

[purenaturalstrength]

he is definitely on gear, hahah. i didn't even had to read that i just saw his profile pic and instantly knew just by his side tricep look.

he's wrong about steroids not helping with the CNS, that is one area they help immensely with and overtraining is so overblown i don't think most people will ever experience CNS overload in their life. 

yeah his message is sort of conflicting, i'm not even sure what he is suggesting

because that "base" of 450-500lbs bench cannot be achieved with natural training at all but maybe he means natural hypertrophy doesnt work AT ALL and natural strength training works A LITTLE BIT

i also read (but it was on tea nation so not sure if legit) that roids enhance strength somehow thru cns something something

[aesthetics]

yeah his message is sort of conflicting, i'm not even sure what he is suggesting

because that "base" of 450-500lbs bench cannot be achieved with natural training at all but maybe he means natural hypertrophy doesnt work AT ALL and natural strength training works A LITTLE BIT

i also read (but it was on tea nation so not sure if legit) that roids enhance strength somehow thru cns something something

yes as i touched on in the previous post, androgens work on the cns to improve motor neurological efficiency, which translates into increased firing times of muscle fibers and greater activation.

if you've ever been drunk as hell and tried to do anything that required some level of strength or coordination you will quickly find that you all the sudden have none, for no apparent reason. it is because alcohol is a CNS depressant, and steroids (and stimulants too) work in the opposite way. easy way to understand it, i think, but essentially steroids will vastly increase your 1rep max the more androgenic they are (e.i. halotestin, anadrol, test converting to DHT, tren, etc...)

[purenaturalstrength]

yes as i touched on in the previous post, androgens work on the cns to improve motor neurological efficiency, which translates into increased firing times of muscle fibers and greater activation.

if you've ever been drunk as hell and tried to do anything that required some level of strength or coordination you will quickly find that you all the sudden have none, for no apparent reason. it is because alcohol is a CNS depressant, and steroids (and stimulants too) work in the opposite way. easy way to understand it, i think, but essentially steroids will vastly increase your 1rep max the more androgenic they are (e.i. halotestin, anadrol, test converting to DHT, tren, etc...)

it happened to me once in a "street fight"

suddenly all my powers were gone 


on a only very vaguely related not, i will ask you, is one beer potent enough to do any (even slightest) damage to physique or strength

i am contemplating on having a beer but am in an obsessive compulsive dilemma

[aesthetics]

beer is pretty high in calories, but aside from that no. consistent drinking increases cortisol levels which in turn makes for an environment where muscle gets catabolized and visceral fat stores increase, making for the skinny fat type of look you see in people with giant beer guts and twig arms.

definitely not a good environment for someone serious about bodybuilding, though if you are on steroids, the AAS will reduce cortisol levels significantly making it a non-issue, so essentially what i'm saying is you should get on some deca you big poof.

[purenaturalstrength]

beer is pretty high in calories, but aside from that no. consistent drinking increases cortisol levels which in turn makes for an environment where muscle gets catabolized and visceral fat stores increase, making for the skinny fat type of look you see in people with giant beer guts and twig arms.

definitely not a good environment for someone serious about bodybuilding, though if you are on steroids, the AAS will reduce cortisol levels significantly making it a non-issue, so essentially what i'm saying is you should get on some deca you big poof.

ok let me put back that unopened can of beer in the fridge

orange juice then 

[OptimusPrime1980]

yes as i touched on in the previous post, androgens work on the cns to improve motor neurological efficiency, which translates into increased firing times of muscle fibers and greater activation.

if you've ever been drunk as hell and tried to do anything that required some level of strength or coordination you will quickly find that you all the sudden have none, for no apparent reason. it is because alcohol is a CNS depressant, and steroids (and stimulants too) work in the opposite way. easy way to understand it, i think, but essentially steroids will vastly increase your 1rep max the more androgenic they are (e.i. halotestin, anadrol, test converting to DHT, tren, etc...)

would that explain why i just can't seem to get drunk from time to time...??
lol... steroids stimulate the cns and alcohol surpresses it... so use both and it gets cancelled out?
 

[aesthetics]

well, like i said just 1 beer isn't going to be a huge deal, it's mostly getting totally wasted multiple times a week, especially when natural - but when you are natural a strong breeze is enough to make you lose muscle and gain fat.

i don't know what kind of beer you are drinking but a lot of calories in alcoholic drinks, alochol it self has calories (i think 1g is 5kilocal) that doesn't get listed on the label and then they always add a ton of sugars to mask the horrible taste of the alcohol. weed is a better alternative

[purenaturalstrength]

wow this orange juice is phenomanal 

HARDCORE


BRING ON THE SWEET POTATOES AND DISPOSABLE MICROWAVES

[aesthetics]

would that explain why i just can't seem to get drunk from time to time...??
lol... steroids stimulate the cns and alcohol surpresses it... so use both and it gets cancelled out?
 

i have no idea about the first question, probably has to do with how full your stomach is at the time, i imagine. i don't drink so not something i've ever felt the need to read about lol

second question: yes. though mixing stimulants, like amphetamines and depressants together is a really bad thing and can be dangerous. steroids different though and yes strength will be higher when drunk if on steroids than when natural and drunk. i don't know how much it really matter since i doubt most peopple lift when drunk but i do have a friend that consistently gets drunk and then goes to the gym and tries to play basketball or lift weights haha