Quote - to get big, you need to use a boatload of gear

[gh15]

Don't go crazy from day 1...you should always slowly work your way up.  But eventually, if you want to get to an elite level of bodybuilding prepare to be using a boatload of gear. (As in as much as you can afford, and as much as you can tolerate)

read what this fela say here,, readdddd it,, he is an advance bodybuild,, he doesnt even know gh15,,dont know him ,, but take a listen to what he say to you fellas,, to all the fellas who say maybe heris ronld is right,, maybe the filt scam is right,, just read this,,now what i did is! i took all this all the top bodybuild actual truth actual feeling actual thinking ,,, and put it out for everyoen to see in a very colorful way ,,

rest assure every word he wrote ther ethis bodybuild is on the money 100% ,, and this is how the bible say it is,, i even mention what for advance bodybuild and how you can get to advance bodybuld,, but you will HVE to get to advance bodybuuld somehow and this will have to go through the sentence i quotes above

gh15 approved

[DroppingPlates]

What would be a good "warm-up" cycle for a 210 pound guy?

[johnnynoname]

also, say you are a 4iu a day type guy- do you gradually make a move to the 10-15iu range or do you just up the dosage all at once?

[El Diablo Blanco]

read what this fela say here,, readdddd it,, he is an advance bodybuild,, he doesnt even know gh15,,dont know him ,, but take a listen to what he say to you fellas,, to all the fellas who say maybe heris ronld is right,, maybe the filt scam is right,, just read this,,now what i did is! i took all this all the top bodybuild actual truth actual feeling actual thinking ,,, and put it out for everyoen to see in a very colorful way ,,

rest assure every word he wrote ther ethis bodybuild is on the money 100% ,, and this is how the bible say it is,, i even mention what for advance bodybuild and how you can get to advance bodybuld,, but you will HVE to get to advance bodybuuld somehow and this will have to go through the sentence i quotes above

gh15 approved

Moreshecums is dead by 35

[gh15]

also, say you are a 4iu a day type guy- do you gradually make a move to the 10-15iu range or do you just up the dosage all at once?

depend on your hgh ,, you wil! notice one thing with gh ,, when you are in the 15 iu zone,, no mater what you do you always look lean even if you hold bunch ow ater you just look lean you can tell its water in majority ,, when you are on 15 iu gh .....this is when you need the insulian in and tho load on aas....for! this is when your 220lb physiqe giev you an opening to get with the big boys,, now true you may not liek end result due to big disgusti gut! but if you hav egod frame and knwo what you doing ....you will grow to be a denis wolf type physqie,, NO that doesnt mean you wil look lie khim to the t ,, it mean that yo uwuill grow into the 240 and 250 6% zones....while keeping your body in somewhat of balance,, from then on over 250 ...it alwys some kind of gut to most bodybuild this! is where genetic mater big time,, when you go over the 250 into the very very very large and lean fella zone

just so yo uundertsnad 200lb 6% is very big fella

220 lb 6%  is huge

240 lb 6% is freaky huge

250+ is numbrs you wont be able to get to with out all out pharmacy and im taking 24/7 in most liklihood dealing in some form or realy have some srioius underground sponsoring you or someone sponsor you

gh15 approved

[lynxeffect84]

gh15  , what about if u cant afford hgh at all , uve said before that massive amounts of test without hgh will leave you looking like shit , wud masteron not cut this bloat out or was it that you'd have too much of that test converted into fat without hgh?  from what ive been reading guys like superstar billy graham , dynamite kid, hogan, etc were nearly hitting the 10 gram mark with steroids back inda day despite being only wrestlers, and no mention of hgh in conjunction with this, only for their off time of 2weeks between cycles., all seemed to look gud back then for guys that cudnt hold a diet or train often.    and what about those who cycle their hgh , what options have u here?  will u not loose the size u have or condition fast if say did 3 months on hgh, 3 months off,  or the steroids ur using not be utilized properly in the 3 off months?  or what about using growth only on training days , post training, say 4 days training a week?  

[njflex]

there pics of this guy around,,dude is a tank.

[StanZoLOL]

 from what ive been reading guys like superstar billy graham , dynamite kid, hogan, etc were nearly hitting the 10 gram mark with steroids back inda day despite being only wrestlers

Yes, Dynamite Kid wrote in his book he did 3cc of test, in each glute cheek, EOD. So 1200-1500mg EOD. Plus deca. Said he didn't use orals much.

[njflex]

Yes, Dynamite Kid wrote in his book he did 3cc of test, in each glute cheek, EOD. So 1200-1500mg EOD. Plus deca. Said he didn't use orals much.

dynmite kid was ripped to shreds and moved in ring like no other then,great build,,

[StanZoLOL]

dynmite kid was ripped to shreds and moved in ring like no other then,great build,,

I want to know how much Warlord and Barbarian were using back then.

[njflex]

I want to know how much Warlord and Barbarian were using back then.

warlord was big dude,,heavy test,anadrol,look thick and full.

[aesthetics]

also, say you are a 4iu a day type guy- do you gradually make a move to the 10-15iu range or do you just up the dosage all at once?

"as much as you can handle"


but it depends on your goals, because obviously that advice is mainly just for aspiring pros, or pros themselves. most people don't need more than 10iu max

[johnnynoname]

"as much as you can handle"


but it depends on your goals, because obviously that advice is mainly just for aspiring pros, or pros themselves. most people don't need more than 10iu max

exactly

I'm not looking to be Dennis Wolf.....just looking to be built like a Israeli bad ass


also, Dynamite injected skim milk into Davey boy's ass and told him it was winstrol

Dynamite was the most influential, non asian worker of the 80's but was a HUGE scumbag

[aesthetics]

if you are just looking to get shredded then 2iu every 3-4 hours will max out the "fatloss" from it, though using extreme dosages does increase insulin resistance and IGF-1 levels to a ridiculous degree which will also play a part in weight loss. but economically 10iu would be the sweet spot for a gym rat, taken IM optimally though sub-q works just the same for fatloss.

[johnnynoname]

speaking of insulin resistance and HGH for fat loss, say you take two, sub q shots a day- it would be wise to take them like a half hour- 45minutes before a meal, correct?

[aesthetics]

no the insulin resistance stays elevated throughout the entire day until you eventually come off the hgh. it lasts for awhile, depending, but exercising and keeping your carbs down will counteract the insulin resistance.

insulin resistance is not ideal way of losing weight as it shifts nutrient partitioning away from muscles and into visceral fat, which is what gives the bloated stomach. but it does cause weightloss nonetheless lol

[johnnynoname]

I'm keto'ing to cut back up so I don't think I have to worry then

[aesthetics]

are you running any stimulants or thermogenicss? i don't thikn i'd be able to cut anymore without clen, it absolutely kills my appetite and without it i'd be eating 8,000 calories a day 

[johnnynoname]

are you running any stimulants or thermogenicss? i don't thikn i'd be able to cut anymore without clen, it absolutely kills my appetite and without it i'd be eating 8,000 calories a day 

yeah...I got that on check.....I got some good clen and not some underdosed shit either...this stuff is legit from a very good domestic lab

i'm doing 12 weeks...1st 6weeks are ECAY then the second six are clen and t3

btw, Yes- you all read it right...JNN got "fat" while bulking up and no I won't post pics

[njflex]

yeah...I got that on check.....I got some good clen and not some underdosed shit either...this stuff is legit from a very good domestic lab

i'm doing 12 weeks...1st 6weeks are ECAY then the second six are clen and t3

btw, Yes- you all read it right...JNN got "fat" while bulking up and no I won't post pics

cool 'no peel'

[aesthetics]

run some ketotifin with the clen, it resensitizes the adrenal receptors that get down regulated from clen usage, removing the necessity to taper the dosages up and then eventually come off in order for the clen to continue working. i've been on 20mcg/d for the past month and a half, i don't really feel like ever coming off since i like the feeling of it lol

if you are on a budget it doesn't make a difference though the cost of the ketotifen is made up in the lower clen dosage so it's really only more expensive up front.

up to you though

[chess315]

What would be a good "warm-up" cycle for a 210 pound guy?

210 at what %bf that means a lot 210 6ft can be large or look like shit

[johnnynoname]

does ketotifen come in tablet or droplet form?

[aesthetics]

liquid from the research companies that i know have it

[johnnynoname]

yep....dosage suggestions?