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Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« on: February 06, 2012, 02:04:52 PM »
Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
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A Chrysler ad aired during the Super Bowl Sunday night has inspired ire among some Republicans and admiration among some Democrats — with both sides seeing a political message that boosts President Obama.

In an ad touting the resurgence of the American auto industry, Clint Eastwood declared that it’s “halftime in America and our second half’s about to begin,” which could be interpreted as a reference to Obama’s second term. 

The ad’s themes seem to echo Obama’s own argument that his administration brought the auto industry back from the brink of disaster.

“They almost lost everything,” Eastwood says of Detroit. “But we all pulled together. Now Motor City is fighting again.”

“I was, frankly, offended by it,” said Karl Rove on Fox News Monday. “I'm a huge fan of Clint Eastwood, I thought it was an extremely well-done ad, but it is a sign of what happens when you have Chicago-style politics, and the president of the United States and his political minions are, in essence, using our tax dollars to buy corporate advertising.”

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 02:20:08 PM »
oh brother - the commercial talked about a city that has hope. 

maybe karl rove interpreted it to be about obama.  i didn't.  there was no mention of any political party.

Rove is offended by this message that americans are pulling together?  GMAFB.  THe shit ppl whine about...

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2012, 02:25:26 PM »
Clint is an unapologetic Republican.  The ad was not an endorsement of the Obama administration.  Rather it was a nod to the Motor City and a US auto industry that has come back from the brink. ::)

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 02:30:38 PM »
Clint is an unapologetic Republican.  The ad was not an endorsement of the Obama administration.  Rather it was a nod to the Motor City and an US auto industry that has come back from the brink. ::)

You are 1000% correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Eastwood#Politics

I doubt Rove knew that.  Eastwood endorsed Mccain in 2008 and has been a repub since Ike.

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 02:35:13 PM »
Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
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A Chrysler ad aired during the Super Bowl Sunday night has inspired ire among some Republicans and admiration among some Democrats — with both sides seeing a political message that boosts President Obama.

In an ad touting the resurgence of the American auto industry, Clint Eastwood declared that it’s “halftime in America and our second half’s about to begin,” which could be interpreted as a reference to Obama’s second term. 

The ad’s themes seem to echo Obama’s own argument that his administration brought the auto industry back from the brink of disaster.

“They almost lost everything,” Eastwood says of Detroit. “But we all pulled together. Now Motor City is fighting again.”

“I was, frankly, offended by it,” said Karl Rove on Fox News Monday. “I'm a huge fan of Clint Eastwood, I thought it was an extremely well-done ad, but it is a sign of what happens when you have Chicago-style politics, and the president of the United States and his political minions are, in essence, using our tax dollars to buy corporate advertising.”

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Karl can be "offended" but he can't do shit about it.  No one is going to fuck with Clint Eastwood
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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 02:54:10 PM »

Karl can be "offended" but he can't do shit about it.  No one is going to fuck with Clint Eastwood


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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 02:54:31 PM »
"Halftime in America" isn't a particularly political message. All it's saying is that we're making a comeback, not that the comeback is thanks to any political party. In fact, I think it's fair to say that our comeback is happening despite both political parties. Either way, Clint Eastwood is philosophically libertarian, so I doubt his message really had any political underpinnings.

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2012, 03:11:58 PM »
Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne said in a radio interview in Detroit Monday that the commercial, in which actor Clinton Eastwood says "it's halftime America, and our second half is about to begin," was not an endorsement of Obama, who declared in his State of the Union address last month that "the American auto industry is back."

"It has zero political content," Marchionne said of the Super Bowl ad in an interview with Detroit radio station 760 AM WJR.

The commercial, called "It's Halftime America," touted the recovery of the American auto companies after the bailouts of 2008 and 2009. The U.S. government lent millions to General Motors and Chrysler, and the companies have seen their fortunes increase along with fellow American car company Ford, which did not accept a federal bailout.

"It was not intended to be any type of political overture on our part," Marchionne continued. "We are as apolitical as you can make us … I wasn't expressing a view and certainly nobody inside Chrysler was attempting to influence decisions."

http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/automobiles/208895-chrysler-ceo-says-clint-eastwood-super-bowl-ad-was-not-political

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2012, 03:18:43 PM »
How the fuck in America does some four eyed fucking fat bald clown like Karl fucking Rove get to where he is?  Someone needs to just tell him to STFUP!  As much as I hate the fucking democrats I can't stand idiots on the right.  Just worthless shit stains through and through. 

As far as America's second half............lol yeah it's coming.....it's called complete financial collapse and WWIII!  Haha.......America...... land of the idiots! 

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2012, 03:36:34 PM »
"Halftime in America" isn't a particularly political message. All it's saying is that we're making a comeback, not that the comeback is thanks to any political party. In fact, I think it's fair to say that our comeback is happening despite both political parties. Either way, Clint Eastwood is philosophically libertarian, so I doubt his message really had any political underpinnings.

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2012, 04:42:08 PM »
Eastwood's Super Bowl ad sparks the discord it decries
By James Oliphant

Perhaps the most attention-getting Super Bowl ad — other than that dog blackmailing his owner with tortilla chips to keep quiet over a felinicide, of course — was Clint Eastwood’s paean to a resurgent auto industry in Detroit.

The ad featured Eastwood leveraging his cinematic persona to the hilt, emerging from the shadows while praising and challenging America at the same time.

“It’s halftime in America too,” Eastwood rasped during halftime at the Super Bowl in a manner reminiscent of the Detroiter he played in “Gran Torino.”

 “Seems that we’ve lost our heart at times. The fog, the division, the discord and blame made it hard to see what lies ahead. But after those trials, we all rallied around what was right and acted as one. Because that’s what we do. We find a way through tough times, and if we can’t find a way, then we’ll make one,” the actor and director said.

“All that matters now is what’s ahead. How do we come from behind? How do we come together? And how do we win? Detroit’s showing us it can be done. And what’s true about them is true about all of us. This country can’t be knocked out with one punch. We get right back up again, and when we do the world’s going to hear the roar of our engines.”

The ad for Chrysler was intended to be a call for people of all ideological stripes to come together for the common good. But coming as it did at the dawn of a presidential election year and touching upon the highly controversial government bailout of automakers, it didn’t take long for that “fog, division, discord and blame” to assert itself.

“Did I just see Clint Eastwood fronting an auto bailout ad?” groaned conservative pundit Michelle Malkin on Twitter.

Meanwhile, David Axelrod, President Obama’s chief reelection strategist, cheered in a tweet. “Powerful spot,” he said.

On Monday, Karl Rove, the former aide to President George W. Bush, said that he was “offended” by the Eastwood ad, suggesting that the Obama administration had a role in its production.

“I'm a huge fan of Clint Eastwood. I thought it was an extremely well-done ad, but it is a sign of what happens when you have Chicago-style politics, and the president of the United States and his political minions are, in essence, using our tax dollars to buy corporate advertising and the best wishes of the management which is benefited by getting a bunch of our money that they'll never pay back," Rove charged on Fox News.

At the White House media briefing Monday, Jay Carney, the press secretary, said neither the administration nor the Obama campaign had anything to do with the spot.

Still, that doesn’t mean Carney passed on the chance to talk up the auto bailout.

The ad, he said, “does point out a simple fact, which is that the automobile industry in this country was on its back and potentially poised to liquidate three years ago. And this president made decisions that were not very popular at the time that were guided by two important principles:  one, that he should do what he could to ensure that 1 million jobs would not be lost; and two, that the American automobile industry should be able to thrive globally if the right conditions were created.”

The man likely to Obama's Republican opponent in the general election, Mitt Romney, has been slammed by Democrats for opposing the bailout of the industry.

"Some people believe in bailouts. I believe in the process of the law,” Romney said last year in Michigan, the state where his father served as governor. “The idea of just writing a check, which is what the auto executives were asking for, was not the right course....  It would have been best had the auto companies gone through the bankruptcy process without having taken $17 billion from government.”

The Treasury Department sunk $12.5 billion into Chrysler in 2009 to help prop up the auto giant. Italian automaker Fiat purchased the government’s 6% stake in the company last year, closing the books on the government’s involvement. All in all, the U.S. lost $1.3 billion on its investment.

The ironic thing about the small-scale brouhaha is that Eastwood is a Republican who opposed the bailout of the industry. (The Chrysler ad never mentions Washington’s capital injection at all, which annoyed some Democrats.) Asked about his presidential leanings last week at an event, Eastwood only allowed some fondness for Ron Paul, saying the libertarian was “as good as anybody else” in the race.

Eastwood said he will decide on a candidate in another month or two after “listening to all that crap on television,” according to the Daily Caller.

Chrysler's chief executive, Sergio Marchionne,  on Monday said the ad wasn’t intended to be political.

“It was not intended to be any type of a political overture on our part,” Marchionne said in an interview with WJR radio in Detroit. “Nobody inside Chrysler was attempting to influence decisions. The message is sufficiently universal and neutral that it should be appealing to everybody in this country, and I sincerely hope that it doesn’t get utilized as political fodder in a debate.”

Not even Dirty Harry, however, can prevent that from happening.

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2012, 04:51:24 PM »
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Detroit ‘Comeback' Ad Filmed in New Orleans, L.A.
The Weekly Standard ^ | 2/6/12 | Daniel Halper
Posted on February 6, 2012 5:15:00 PM EST by ColdOne

But contrary to what the might ad suggest, the spot was actually filmed in New Orleans and Los Angles. “Yes, part of it was filmed in New Orleans . . . and some was filmed in various parts—such as Los Angeles,” Dianna Gutierrez said. She specifically points to the tunnel scenes as being taken at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, while the stadium shots were in New Orleans.

Asked whether any part of the ad was filmed in Detroit, Gutierrez said that previously taken footage from various parts of the Motor City was used. No image of Detroit was shot for the specific use in this ad.

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2012, 05:00:06 PM »
Didn't the taxpayers lose billions on the Chrysler bailout not Tom mention the bond holders screwed over and the compan given 55 percent to the unions?   

does not sound like a promising second half with that type of crap. 

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2012, 05:03:58 PM »
Chrysler was EXTREMELY close to not getting any bailout money.  Many of Obama's top advisers wanted Chrysler to go under.  I think Chrysler was saved because black people really like the Chrysler 300  :P

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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2012, 05:13:46 PM »
Chrysler was EXTREMELY close to not getting any bailout money.  Many of Obama's top advisers wanted Chrysler to go under.  I think Chrysler was saved because black people really like the Chrysler 300  :P

The 300 is a true ghetto superstar mobile.

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2012, 05:59:30 PM »
The 300 is a true ghetto superstar mobile.

I think every damn one of them down here in Miami has the Bentley grill on them

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2012, 06:00:06 PM »
I think every damn one of them down here in Miami has the Bentley grill on them

LOL!!!   True That!!! 

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The Weekly Standard ^ | 2/6/12 | Daniel Halper
Posted on February 6, 2012 5:15:00 PM EST by ColdOne

But contrary to what the might ad suggest, the spot was actually filmed in New Orleans and Los Angles. “Yes, part of it was filmed in New Orleans . . . and some was filmed in various parts—such as Los Angeles,” Dianna Gutierrez said. She specifically points to the tunnel scenes as being taken at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, while the stadium shots were in New Orleans.

Asked whether any part of the ad was filmed in Detroit, Gutierrez said that previously taken footage from various parts of the Motor City was used. No image of Detroit was shot for the specific use in this ad.

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Hahahaha, you can't write this shit. I wonder why they didn't use Detroit? Too many boarded up houses?  ::)

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2012, 06:37:31 AM »
Half Time in America; We Need a New Quarterback
Townhall.com ^ | February 7, 2012 | John Ransom




If you are keeping score at home it’s Chrysler $12.5 billion, NBC $12 million, with a taxpayer loss of $133 billion. Oh, and the city of Detroit is just minutes away, literally, from being more broke than Greece.

Look, I’m a sucker for marketing as much as the next guy, but I have a lot of friends who were rightly outraged by Chrysler’s political ad for the auto bailout that starred Clint Eastwood and aired at halftime on NBC during the Super Bowl. It was more than just the subverted boosterism for Obama that was outrageous. There were many levels of outrage for even discriminating tastes.

If you missed it, the commercial was a two-minute, Chamber of Commerce-type pitch for more government money to make America great, with, um, Detroit leading the way.


Sure; technically, it was well-produced with compelling visual images and the iconic narrative voice of Clint Eastwood.  The TV time alone cost Chrysler $12 million.

Chrysler came up $1.3 billion short paying the US Treasury, but they have money for junk-food like Super Bowl commercials. 

And it almost made me want to believe. But as Yahoo Autos points out: “There's no better example of the difference between sentiment and sentimentality, and just how many of us no longer notice.”

Because unfortunately, I’ve looked under the hood of the Detroit/Chrysler story the filmmakers are selling and this one’s a lemon. 

“I’ve always been very liberal when it comes to people thinking for themselves,” Eastwood told the Los Angeles Times back in November, “But I’m a big hawk on cutting the deficit. I was against the stimulus thing too. We shouldn’t be bailing out the banks and car companies. If a CEO can’t figure out how to make his company profitable, then he shouldn’t be the CEO.”


Think for ourselves, except when you are pitching policies you disagreed with three months ago?   

For those with a less acute political and financial antenna, let’s make this simple:

It was bad enough that we bailed out private corporations. It’s even worse that those bailouts tended to favor Obama’s biggest donors in 2008- financial services and unions. The latest inspector general report says the bailout losses so far equal about $133 billion, with about 19 percent of that loss coming from the automotive industry.  Over time, some of that money may be recouped, but total losses are expected to be from $50 billion to $75 billion, and they could be higher. The total bailout cost for automakers is expected to be about $25 billion.

“Look at me. I’ve had to make films for less money or go out and find my own money,” Eastwood said in the Times article in response to the reporter’s pro-bailout pushback. “On ‘Mystic River,’ I had to cut my salary and everyone else’s to get it made. I know the score. If I start to grind out two or three turkeys, I’ll be unemployed, just like anyone else.”

Well, not everyone.

Despite the “Happy Days are Here Again” theme song coming from automakers GM and Chrysler, both companies are deeply broke. If they weren’t, the US Treasury wouldn't be looking at losses of $25 billion for the bailouts.


But for the politically connected here in the USA there are always bailouts or some such federal program that will take care of unions, or banks, or green energy companies, or federal contractors like GE, Fannie Mae, GM and Chrysler. 

That’s why the Eastwood ad resonated with Democrats from David Axelrod, to Obama’s Michigan campaign.

From the CSMonitor:

“Another great Chrysler ad – the US auto industry is back,” tweeted the Michigan branch of Mr. Obama’s reelection campaign following its broadcast just prior to the second-half kickoff.

David Axelrod, once and (likely future) top political aide to Obama's national campaign, added this tweet: “Powerful spot. Did Clint shoot that, or just narrate it?”

So to add a little more salt to taxpayers' wounds, football fans, whose only partisan worries at halftime of the Super Bowl should be Giants vs. Patriots, bathroom vs. Madonna, have to watch our tax dollars fund one of the main themes coming out of Obama’s reelection campaign: “The US auto industry is back thanks to my generous donation to their campaign- if you don’t believe me, you’ll believe Clint Eastwood.”

And… oh, by the way… Detroit, the City That’s Back, according to Chrysler, is on the verge of bankruptcy because of: 1) shrinking population due to mismanagement in the auto industry and 2) public unions are out of control.


“The fiscal crisis in the city that has lost a quarter of its population since 2000 is coming to a head,” reports Bloomberg. “The state is combing Detroit’s books for evidence of financial emergency. Meanwhile, Democratic Mayor Dave Bing is racing to wrest concessions from 48 bargaining units to erase a $200 million deficit in the home of General Motors Co. and the cradle of the U.S. auto industry. Otherwise, the city of 714,000 dominated by Democrats may face a Republican-appointed manager with authority to sell assets and nullify contracts. State Treasurer Andy Dillon has said Detroit will run out of cash by May, and called for concessions by early February.”

Ohmygosh! A Republican? Balancing the books without a bailout?   

Look, Detroit’s been in crisis for decades, not a few years, and the culprit is unions, unions, unions.

So let’s sum up what the taxpayers got for the $12 million commercial produced by Chrysler: A great visual experience, filmed in two entirely different cities than the subject city, with a wonderful narration by Eastwood about policies that he doesn’t agree with, pushing a message about a car company and the city of Detroit that isn’t true in any factual or even literary sense.

See? That’s proof that it has to be an Obama campaign commercial.

But here's why we are really offended: Because if this commercial represents halftime in America, we need a new quarterback.   



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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2012, 06:39:09 AM »
do we all agree with lifelong republican clint eastwood, as well as the chrysler CEO, that the commercial wasn't pro-obama?

karl rove was way off base here.   He's offended by a message of 'americans are working together to overcome crisis".

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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2012, 06:41:52 AM »
do we all agree with lifelong republican clint eastwood, as well as the chrysler CEO, that the commercial wasn't pro-obama?

karl rove was way off base here.   He's offended by a message of 'americans are working together to overcome crisis".

I disagree with you entirely.   Obama's main theme is the auto bailout, which is hardly a "success".   

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2012, 06:55:57 AM »
but that has nothing to do with this commercial.

this is a commercial for a car company, narrated by a guy who supported mccain and hates obama with a passion.

It played at halftime of the sb, with the message that we're onlyu halfway done turning things around (the company has come a long way but has a ways to go).

IMO, this is just karl rove trying to see "karl rove" in the headline.  Completely off base with the facts, he was.

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2012, 06:57:08 AM »
'obamas theme'... /?????????????

That's irrelevant here.

Palin's main theme was 'drill baby drill'.

And if David Alexrod saw a BP commercial and came out and say "clearly, this was BP and narrator Alec Baldwin supporting the tea party..." we'd laugh him out of the room as being a complete ass.

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Re: Karl Rove ‘offended’ by Clint Eastwood’s Chrysler ad
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2012, 06:58:52 AM »
but that has nothing to do with this commercial.

this is a commercial for a car company, narrated by a guy who supported mccain and hates obama with a passion.

It played at halftime of the sb, with the message that we're onlyu halfway done turning things around (the company has come a long way but has a ways to go).

IMO, this is just karl rove trying to see "karl rove" in the headline.  Completely off base with the facts, he was.

no - its a company that still owes taxpayers billions of dollars who obama is running around cheering as a success.



Stop lying and stop kneepadding.  Just be honest.