Author Topic: Santorum having some night. (Read 1976 times)

240 is Back · « **Reply #25 on:** February 08, 2012, 04:37:42 AM »

msnbc is kneepading romney this AM.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #26 on:** February 08, 2012, 04:45:39 AM »

Just sit right back and hear a tale...

howardroark · « **Reply #27 on:** February 08, 2012, 05:31:20 AM »

Rick Santorum is EXPLICITLY against liberty:

http://www.cato.org/multimedia/daily-podcast/rick-santorums-anti-libertarianism

howardroark · « **Reply #28 on:** February 08, 2012, 06:22:22 AM »

240 is Back · « **Reply #29 on:** February 08, 2012, 06:26:36 AM »

Quote from: howardroark on February 08, 2012, 05:31:20 AM

Rick Santorum is EXPLICITLY against liberty:

http://www.cato.org/multimedia/daily-podcast/rick-santorums-anti-libertarianism

but if it's santorum or newt/romney... i'm picking santorum!

howardroark · « **Reply #30 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:23:35 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on February 08, 2012, 06:26:36 AM

but if it's santorum or newt/romney... i'm picking santorum!

God no, Mitt over Santorum. I much rather have a flip-flopper who goes with the flow versus someone who is EXPLICITLY authoritarian.

howardroark · « **Reply #31 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:24:34 AM »

Santorum aka "Frothy" is explicitly pro-Fed and pro-inflation:

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #32 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:25:04 AM »

Quote from: howardroark on February 08, 2012, 07:23:35 AM

God no, Mitt over Santorum. I much rather have a flip-flopper who goes with the flow versus someone who is EXPLICITLY authoritarian.

The health care issue is what makes romney so toxic.

howardroark · « **Reply #33 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:32:28 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 08, 2012, 07:25:04 AM

The health care issue is what makes romney so toxic.

What about Santorum's health care issue, aka $17 trillion in unfunded liabilities with Medicare Part D? Or his education issue, aka No Child Left Behind? Or what about his Bush issue, aka rubber stamping Bush's deficits and destruction of civil liberties?

At the very least, what Mitt did was on the state level, not on the federal level.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #34 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:34:22 AM »

Quote from: howardroark on February 08, 2012, 07:32:28 AM

What about Santorum's health care issue, aka $17 trillion in unfunded liabilities with Medicare Part D? Or his education issue, aka No Child Left Behind? Or what about his Bush issue, aka rubber stamping Bush's deficits and destruction of civil liberties?

At the very least, what Mitt did was on the state level, not on the federal level.

Not disagreeing - but Romney is a disaster in his own right. He simply refuses to acknowledge the fact that the mandate is a disaster.

He too is a inflationist and even Larry Kudlow got pissed off with him over his issue on the currency.

I fucking hate Romney almost as much as obama.

howardroark · « **Reply #35 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:39:00 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 08, 2012, 07:34:22 AM

Not disagreeing - but Romney is a disaster in his own right. He simply refuses to acknowledge the fact that the mandate is a disaster.

He too is a inflationist and even Larry Kudlow got pissed off with him over his issue on the currency.

I fucking hate Romney almost as much as obama.

And I'm not disagreeing.

All I'm saying is:
Newt - Rockefeller Republican who hates the Constitution.
Santorum - Bush Republican who explicitly hates liberty.
Mitt - flip flopping management consultant who goes with the flow

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #36 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:40:36 AM »

howardroark · « **Reply #37 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:54:47 AM »

As I've been saying, Rick Santorum is explicitly against liberty, against freedom, against the pursuit of happiness, against individualism, and for collectivism, for statism, for authoritarianism:

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #38 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:56:57 AM »

I have already resigned myself to the fact that I am going to get someone I dont want as RP refuses to campaign to win.

howardroark · « **Reply #39 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:00:44 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 08, 2012, 07:56:57 AM

I have already resigned myself to the fact that I am going to get someone I dont want as RP refuses to campaign to win.

So you'll vote for someone who shits all over the Constitution as much, if not more, than Barack Hussein Obama.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #40 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:03:20 AM »

Quote from: howardroark on February 08, 2012, 08:00:44 AM

So you'll vote for someone who shits all over the Constitution as much, if not more, than Barack Hussein Obama.

Yes. Here is why.

Obama = 100% chance that he will a fucking commie thug traitor and appoint all sorts of crazy people like holder, cordray, sebellius, liew, et al to the regulatory agencies.

ANYONE ELSE = 50% -90% they will suck and do the same bullshit as obama.

I am voting based on that 10% possibility they will be better than the 100% proven fucking traitor and disaster obama. I have no illusions or expectations in 2012 of what I am going to get.

howardroark · « **Reply #41 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:05:49 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 08, 2012, 08:03:20 AM

Yes. Here is why.

Obama = 100% chance that he will a fucking commie thug traitor and appoint all sorts of crazy people like holder, cordray, sebellius, liew, et al to the regulatory agencies.

ANYONE ELSE = 50% -90% they will suck and do the same bullshit as obama.

I am voting based on that 10% possibility they will be better than the 100% proven fucking traitor and disaster obama. I have no illusions or expectations in 2012 of what I am going to get.

You're voting on the 100% possibility that a GOP President empowered by a majority in both Houses of Congress will act to wreck this country?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #42 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:08:48 AM »

I said 10% chance that anyone - could be a guy out of the phone book - will do the right thing.

howardroark · « **Reply #43 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:09:27 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 08, 2012, 08:08:48 AM

I said 10% chance that anyone - could be a guy out of the phone book - will do the right thing.

And there's a 100% chance that Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, and Mitt Romney won't.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #44 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:11:17 AM »

Quote from: howardroark on February 08, 2012, 08:09:27 AM

And there's a 100% chance that Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, and Mitt Romney won't.

Probably so - but with obama in office - there is 100% chance.

The others have never held POTUS, same as RP who just as easily could be a mess, would do something different.

Like i said - I am cynical person w no expectations out of any of them.

240 is Back · « **Reply #45 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:17:48 AM »

i think any of the GOPers would do a fine job.

It's just about "which man would beat obama" at this point.

Romney seems less and less likely.

howardroark · « **Reply #46 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:20:12 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 08, 2012, 08:11:17 AM

Probably so - but with obama in office - there is 100% chance.

The others have never held POTUS, same as RP who just as easily could be a mess, would do something different.

Like i said - I am cynical person w no expectations out of any of them.

Ron Paul has a RECORD of standing on principle - the rest have a record of voting for bigger, more intrusive, more authoritarian government. By voting for any of them at any stage of the election you are voting for authoritarianism.

And, quite frankly, an Obama without a majority in the Senate/House is practically powerless compared to a Newt/Santorum/Mitt Presidency.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #47 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:21:08 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on February 08, 2012, 08:17:48 AM

i think any of the GOPers would do a fine job.

It's just about "which man would beat obama" at this point.

Romney seems less and less likely.

The problem w Romney is that he takes every single good issue off the table against obama! Name the fucking issue and he is the same!

240 is Back · « **Reply #48 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:24:27 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 08, 2012, 08:21:08 AM

The problem w Romney is that he takes every single good issue off the table against obama! Name the fucking issue and he is the same!

I used to think romney would do the best in debates, etc... BUT...

He is getting owned by guys like santorum and perry and newt. He's soft and weak.

You can hide that weakness when you're just giving speeched, but the debates show you who has balls, and who will whimper against Putin or G20. Or Obama!

Romney is weak like a popcorn fart. it's that simple.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #49 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:25:48 AM »

Santorum destroyed Romney on the health care issue like a buzzard picks apart a carcus. Romney will spend the entire debate with obama : "I agree with you" on issue after issue after issue.