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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #75 on: February 10, 2012, 07:05:16 PM »
how many times are we going to do this topic in a thread i must be stuck in ground hog day.

how many times are we going to do this topic in a thread i must be stuck in ground hog day.

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #76 on: February 10, 2012, 07:30:52 PM »
Everyone's still Blinded bye Coleman's size "factor" which apparently would "blow"... Yates away...Lol...Transportin g a off-season 312lbs Coleman in 2005 back to the Year 1993 to Blow away little 270lb-odd Yates with the same NEUTRAL LIGHTING, with the SAME BACKGROUND and with a Slightly shopped waist for the "Bigger guy"....Hmmmmm yip good call on the Size difference :-\ outrageous "Size" and Genetics alone would not Defeat a Condition Freak like Yates IMO, size DOESN'T mean Sweet fuck all UNLESS ALL THAT SIZE is Conditioned and BALANCED from head to toe... not just from the Knees on up.

Are you sure Ronnie was 312lbs in that pic?

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #77 on: February 10, 2012, 07:32:40 PM »
people always talk about ronnie's size giving him the advantage over dorian, but I disagree completely.

it wasn't his size.

it was the quality and shape/taper that gives him the advantage.

hell, at only 247 pounds, he looked like this, which would blow away dorian's heavier, bulkier 260 pound best:
Well yes and no, the yes is @ 240 odd pounds in 98 or 01 he was Unbelievable, and its Conceivable @ his Best in those years he COULD OF beaten yates, however like most your Posts you do "select" your Pictures carefully as a away of saying see "look" told you hes "Better". Bottom line is Neither Dorian or Ronnie EVER stood onstage @ their Respective Bests side bye side in Direct Comparisons with the same LIGHTING, ANGLES, JUDGES etc etc, so @ best all this is in a nut shell is SPECULATION, that in your Opinion and many others is that Coleman would beat Yates cause of "all" the selective pictures, screen caps etc, and keep in mind with all that Dialog that has been posted Coleman isnt exactly "Blowing away" the competition with Cormeir, flex, etc beside him now is he, as ive said IF Both @ their bests ON THE DAY it would be alot closer than you think and all those pics wouldn't account for nothing....the judges would....all round Balance and condition Vs Genetics and separation 50-50 ether way on the day IMO.

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #78 on: February 10, 2012, 07:33:50 PM »
Everyone's still Blinded bye Coleman's size "factor" which apparently would "blow"... Yates away...Lol...Transportin g a off-season 312lbs Coleman in 2005 back to the Year 1993 to Blow away little 270lb-odd Yates with the same NEUTRAL LIGHTING, with the SAME BACKGROUND and with a Slightly shopped waist for the "Bigger guy"....Hmmmmm yip good call on the Size difference :-\ outrageous "Size" and Genetics alone would not Defeat a Condition Freak like Yates IMO, size DOESN'T mean Sweet fuck all UNLESS ALL THAT SIZE is Conditioned and BALANCED from head to toe... not just from the Knees on up.

better comparison

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #79 on: February 10, 2012, 07:34:32 PM »
Are you sure Ronnie was 312lbs in that pic?
NO not 100% on that, other pics and other forum suggested that Figure so its anyone's guess.

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #80 on: February 10, 2012, 07:38:52 PM »
better comparison
Well no its not why? simple the lighting is TOTALLY different in the Coleman picture and Yates in the 93 pictures is NOT THERE in that same lighting in that same gym however GRANTED absolutley he is in alot better Shape, massive separated etc etc...and il bet hes Less than the 312lbs in the other comparison, point being his size "advantage" would not imo be squat against Yates.

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2012, 07:46:01 PM »
Well no its not why? simple the lighting is TOTALLY different in the Coleman picture and Yates in the 93 pictures is NOT THERE in that same lighting in that same gym however GRANTED absolutley he is in alot better Shape, massive separated etc etc...and il bet hes Less than the 312lbs in the other comparison, point being his size "advantage" would not imo be squat against Yates.

lol, what are you smoking? The comparison I made is better in every way than the one you posted.

- both images in my comparison are unaltered. The one you posted of Ronnie is grayscale even though the original has color
- I didn't crop out anyone. Ronnie is cropped in yours. You can tell b/c the edges on Ronnie are all lumpy and distorted
- their heights are more accurately reflected in my comparison. Ronnie is shorter in yours despite being an inch taller in person
- your comparison has a smaller file size thus the image is pixelated and has worse resolution

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #82 on: February 10, 2012, 07:48:35 PM »
amazing what a difference a more fair comparison makes




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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #83 on: February 10, 2012, 07:54:08 PM »
lol, what are you smoking? The comparison I made is better in every way than the one you posted.

- both images in my comparison are unaltered. The one you posted of Ronnie is grayscale even though the original has color
- I didn't crop out anyone. Ronnie is cropped in yours. You can tell b/c the edges on Ronnie are all lumpy and distorted
- their heights are more accurately reflected in my comparison. Ronnie is shorter in yours despite being an inch taller in person
- your comparison has a smaller file size thus the image is pixelated and has worse resolution
No not Smoking nothing, i call it as i see it, Yes we all know the pic of Ron is Cropped etc etc etc, and while you say the one you have posted isnt touched it isnt exactly a Picture is it, its a somewhat Distorted screen cap...whatever you are "right" or i am "wrong", point i was trying to point out was size wouldn't be the final result against those 2 @ their bests on the day in a actual bbing COMPETITION...Total all round Condition and who had the better ALL ROUND balance on THE DAY would be imo.

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #84 on: February 10, 2012, 07:54:20 PM »
This is two years before Ronnie started to step it up a notch or ten.
Ronnie was just as wide as a career-heaviest Dorian and already had a better back according to Peter McGough before Ronnie even reached his prime

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #85 on: February 10, 2012, 07:58:35 PM »
NO not 100% on that, other pics and other forum suggested that Figure so its anyone's guess.

Actually, that pic is from 2002 (dated in below pic) and I don't think Ronnie is 312lbs in that pic. I'll look around and see if I can find out how much he weighs in that pic.

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #86 on: February 10, 2012, 07:59:54 PM »
No not Smoking nothing, i call it as i see it, Yes we all know the pic of Ron is Cropped etc etc etc, and while you say the one you have posted isnt touched it isnt exactly a Picture is it, its a somewhat Distorted screen cap...whatever you are "right" or i am "wrong", point i was trying to point out was size wouldn't be the final result against those 2 @ their bests on the day in a actual bbing COMPETITION...Total all round Condition and who had the better ALL ROUND balance on THE DAY would be imo.

I'm calling it as I see it too. Ronnie has more muscular bulk, better separations and striations, symmetry, fullness, and shape than Dorian. I give Dorian conditioning and balance depending on which version you prefer.

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #87 on: February 10, 2012, 08:02:00 PM »
 good comparison here:

although, as always, its not close. ronnie 'blows him away' lol

its funny how yates has always maintained his 95 (post tear) form was his best ever, because he was at his hardest, but man, that left arm is fucked
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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #88 on: February 10, 2012, 08:02:52 PM »
Actually, that pic is from 2002 (dated in below pic) and I don't think Ronnie is 312lbs in that pic. I'll look around and see if I can find out how much he weighs in that pic.
Well there you are thats 2002 not 2005, and bye the looks of that picture he Def looks 300plus pounds.

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #89 on: February 10, 2012, 08:04:50 PM »
good comparison here:

although, as always, its not close. ronnie 'blows him away' lol

its funny how yates has always maintained his 95 (post tear) form was his best ever, because he was at his hardest, but man, that left arm is fucked
Sure is, oh wait thats right they werent on the same stage in 2001 good call neutral as always @ least you are consistent.

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #90 on: February 10, 2012, 08:11:12 PM »
I'm calling it as I see it too. Ronnie has more muscular bulk, better separations and striations, symmetry, fullness, and shape than Dorian. I give Dorian conditioning and balance depending on which version you prefer.
Debatable on the Muscular point or though you did say BULK, Separation yip Depending on body-parts in Question...Symmetry....I nterested on your Thoughts on just what "Symmetry" means in relation to those 2 Physiques in Question and NO Taper alone does not ALONE mean one has better symmetry than the other.

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #91 on: February 10, 2012, 08:12:54 PM »
Well there you are thats 2002 not 2005, and bye the looks of that picture he Def looks 300plus pounds.

no, he doesn't. He looks smaller than 03 Ronnie which was 287 lbs. This is what a 300 lbs Ronnie looks like

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #92 on: February 10, 2012, 08:19:08 PM »
lol @ thinking this is +300 lbs. If so, then Ronnie must weigh 350 lbs in the pics I posted above

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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
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Re: Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman
« Reply #99 on: February 11, 2012, 04:48:32 AM »
great pics! thanks for posting.
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