AE: I know bodybuilding is just like any other sport and it's always bigger, faster, better and everything has to make progression. But do you guys as a group ever just say, "This is ing crazy" with everything you have to do to compete in the sport? Do you ever say that to yourself?
IAN: Hmmm, you mean to the bodybuilders or personally, to myself?
AE: Amongst yourselves and personally.
IAN: Personally I do, yeah. Actually that's one of the reasons why….there were a lot of reasons why I decided to take a break from the sport, but it scared me what I might be doing to myself. You know, the things I had to use in order to compete against the other guys, I mean, you don't know what you're doing to yourself, you really don't. You can have all the medicals and blood tests you want but you really don't know what's going to happen next. I think the thing is, you know, you've seen people like Rich Gaspari and how he was so great for so many years and then suddenly his body seemed to age, and I think you can burn out really easy. You know, I don't think guys can continually compete at the top level taking what they need to take to compete without burning your body out.