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Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« on: February 09, 2012, 08:57:28 AM »
Dick Bove Goes Ballistic Over The 'Mortgage Deal From Hell'
Julia La Roche | 35 minutes ago | 1,697 | 15



 
Rochdale's Dick Bove went on a tirade this morning on CNBC's "Squawk on the Street" claiming the joint state-federal mortgage settlement, which he dubbed in a note earlier as "the mortgage deal from hell," unfairly impacts those homeowners who pay their bills.

"If you're going to do something which is going to reduce the value of existing homes where people are making payments then every American should stop making payments on his mortgages and send a letter to the Attorney General in his state and say 'I qualify to have my principal reduced because I'm not going to make any more payments on my house," Bove said. 

The banking analyst also said the agreement, which is expected to be around $26 billion and could increase if more banks join, will hurt the U.S. economy rather than stimulate it.

"These people were not making payments on these houses in the first place and, therefore, they're not getting the new flow of cash...they were not getting anything other the government has decided to pay everyone who cheated on their mortgages 2,000 bucks.  The second thing is you are going to reduce the price of houses in the United States where payments were being made because the house next store is seeing the principal balance taken down," he explained.

"This is not a stimulus to the United States economy.  It depresses the United States economy."

As of right now, Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citi and Ally Financial are all expected to be part of the mortgage settlement.

Bove said he does not expect a major impact on earnings.

"Most big banks set aside reserves.  The bulk of the mortgages have already been written down and the principal already forgiven... It's unlikely there would be a major earnings impact."

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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 09:04:23 AM »
are you going to be on here for the next 5 years complaining ;D

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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 09:06:49 AM »
are you going to be on here for the next 5 years complaining ;D

As long as obama keeps destroying the nation and embarks on communistic policies - yes. 

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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 09:21:52 AM »
Foreclosure Settlement With Major Banks Close To Completion
The LA Times ^ | February 9, 2012 | 1:25am | Alejandro Lazo




A nationwide plan to help nearly 2 million homeowners hit by the mortgage meltdown and improper foreclosure practices could be announced as early as Thursday under a multi-state settlement hammered out by states' attorneys general and the nation's major lenders.

The proposed $25-billion deal would be the largest since the $206-billion settlement with the tobacco industry in 1998. Much of the bank settlement is expected to go to people who are having trouble paying their mortgages or have lost their homes to foreclosure.


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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 11:41:28 AM »
Dick Bove On The Foreclosure Settlement: There Is No Sanctity Of Contracts; Only Fools Meet Their Financial Commitments

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/09/2012 11:44 -0500


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In a moment of surprising clarity this morning (or perhaps driven by simple ulterior motives as his favorite bank may well be unprepared to cover even this moderate cash payment from existing reserves, as we warned back in January) perpetual bank optimist Dick Bove had some harsh words for the now finalized bank settlement, which he called the "mortgage deal from hell" - "Those people lucky or smart enough to stop making payments on their homes may get their loan balances reduced. Other beneficiaries of the agreement may be homeowners who have seen the value of their houses drop below the size of their mortgages. They get a freebie that other homeowners who have paid their mortgages down will not get....Homeowners who made large down payments on their homes or made the terrible mistake to pay down the principal on their mortgages do not qualify. Homeowners who made minimal or no down payments will get the windfall benefit of a lower principal repayment or a cash payment." And the true bottom line: "There is no sanctity of contracts in the United States. Only fools meet their financial commitments. The non-payers are the truly enlightened." And that is the summary of modern US society in a nutshell, and explains why despite all the deleveraging, inflation still remains a potent threat as the bulk of a household's mandatory continues to be merely discretionary, with everyone else footing the bill. Finally, as Rick Santelli pointed out subsequently, the banks are paying for this settlement using cash proceeds from previous bank bailouts which have not yet been paid out. So to be even more blunt than Dick and Rick -the US taxpayers bailed out the banks, which are now using  the balance of said proceeds to pay a settlement which amounts to the tune of $2,000 per every person foreclosed on in the past 3 years, in order to assure their vote for Obama, while in the process trampling contact law, as no longer will anyone in America honor anything printed and signed.




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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 12:02:05 PM »
The Top 12 Reasons Why You Should Hate the Mortgage Settlement
Posted: 02/ 9/2012 8:46 am React Important
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/yves-smith/mortgage-settlement_b_1264806.html




As readers likely know by now, 49 of 50 states have agreed to join the so-called mortgage settlement, with Oklahoma the lone refusenik. Although the fine points are still being hammered out, various news outlets (New York Times, Financial Times, Wall Street Journal) have details, with Dave Dayen's overview at Firedoglake the best thus far.

The Wall Street Journal is also reporting that the SEC is about to launch some securities litigation against major banks. Since the statue of limitations has already run out on securities filings more than five years old, this means they'll clip the banks for some of the very last (and dreckiest) deals they shoved out the door before the subprime market gave up the ghost.

The various news services are touting this pact at the biggest multi-state settlement since the tobacco deal in 1998. While narrowly accurate, this deal is bush league by comparison even though the underlying abuses in both cases have had devastating consequences.

The tobacco agreement was pegged as being worth nearly $250 billion over the first 25 years. Adjust that for inflation, and the disparity is even bigger. That shows you the difference in outcomes between a case where the prosecutors have solid evidence backing their charges, versus one where everyone know a lot of bad stuff happened, but no one has come close to marshaling the evidence.

The mortgage settlement terms have not been released, but more of the details have been leaked:

1. The total for the top five servicers is now touted as $26 billion (annoyingly, the FT is calling it "nearly $40 billion"), but of that, roughly $17 billion is credits for principal modifications, which as we pointed out earlier, can and almost assuredly will come largely from mortgages owned by investors. $3 billion is for refis, and only $5 billion will be in the form of hard cash payments, including $1500 to $2000 per borrower foreclosed on between September 2008 and December 2011.

Banks will be required to modify second liens that sit behind firsts "at least" pari passu, which in practice will mean at most pari passu. So this guarantees banks will also focus on borrowers where they do not have second lien exposure, and this also makes the settlement less helpful to struggling homeowners, since borrowers with both second and first liens default at much higher rates than those without second mortgages. Per the Journal:

"It's not new money. It's all soft dollars to the banks," said Paul Miller, a bank analyst at FBR Capital Markets.
The Times is also subdued:

Despite the billions earmarked in the accord, the aid will help a relatively small portion of the millions of borrowers who are delinquent and facing foreclosure. The success could depend in part on how effectively the program is carried out because earlier efforts by Washington aimed at troubled borrowers helped far fewer than had been expected.

2. Schneiderman's MERS suit survives, and he can add more banks as defendants. It isn't clear what became of the Biden and Coakley MERS suits, but Biden sounded pretty adamant in past media presentations on preserving that.

3. Nevada's and Arizona's suits against Countrywide for violating its past consent decree on mortgage servicing has, in a new Orwellianism, been "folded into" the settlement.

4. The five big players in the settlement have already set aside reserves sufficient for this deal.


Here are the top twelve reasons why this deal stinks:


1. We've now set a price for forgeries and fabricating documents. It's $2000 per loan. This is a rounding error compared to the chain of title problem these systematic practices were designed to circumvent. The cost is also trivial in comparison to the average loan, which is roughly $180k, so the settlement represents about 1% of loan balances. It is less than the price of the title insurance that banks failed to get when they transferred the loans to the trust. It is a fraction of the cost of the legal expenses when foreclosures are challenged. It's a great deal for the banks because no one is at any of the servicers going to jail for forgery and the banks have set the upper bound of the cost of riding roughshod over 300 years of real estate law.

2. That $26 billion is actually $5 billion of bank money and the rest is your money. The mortgage principal writedowns are guaranteed to come almost entirely from securitized loans, which means from investors, which in turn means taxpayers via Fannie and Freddie, pension funds, insurers, and 401 (k)s. Refis of performing loans also reduce income to those very same investors.

3. That $5 billion divided among the big banks wouldn't even represent a significant quarterly hit. Freddie and Fannie putbacks to the major banks have been running at that level each quarter.

4. That $20 billion actually makes bank second liens sounder, so this deal is a stealth bailout that strengthens bank balance sheets at the expense of the broader public.

5. The enforcement is a joke. The first layer of supervision is the banks reporting on themselves. The framework is similar to that of the OCC consent decrees implemented last year, which Adam Levitin and yours truly, among others, decried as regulatory theater.

6. The past history of servicer consent decrees shows the servicers all fail to comply. Why? Servicer records and systems are terrible in the best of times, and their systems and fee structures aren't set up to handle much in the way of delinquencies. As Tom Adams has pointed out in earlier posts, servicer behavior is predictable when their portfolios are hit with a high level of delinquencies and defaults: they cheat in all sorts of ways to reduce their losses.

7. The cave-in Nevada and Arizona on the Countrywide settlement suit is a special gift for Bank of America, who is by far the worst offender in the chain of title disaster (since, according to sworn testimony of its own employee in Kemp v. Countrywide, Countrywide failed to comply with trust delivery requirements). This move proves that failing to comply with a consent degree has no consequences but will merely be rolled into a new consent degree which will also fail to be enforced. These cases also alleged HAMP violations as consumer fraud violations and could have gotten costly and emboldened other states to file similar suits not just against Countrywide but other servicers, so it was useful to the other banks as well.

8. If the new federal task force were intended to be serious, this deal would have not have been settled. You never settle before investigating. It's a bad idea to settle obvious, widespread wrongdoing on the cheap. You use the stuff that is easy to prove to gather information and secure cooperation on the stuff that is harder to prove. In Missouri and Nevada, the robosigning investigation led to criminal charges against agents of the servicers. But even though these companies were acting at the express direction and approval of the services, no individuals or entities higher up the food chain will face any sort of meaningful charges.

9. There is plenty of evidence of widespread abuses not that are appear not to be on the attorney generals' or media's radar, such as servicer driven foreclosures and looting of investors' funds via impermissible and inflated charges. While no serious probe was undertaken, even the limited or peripheral investigations show massive failures (60% of documents had errors in AGs/Fed's pathetically small sample). Similarly, the US Trustee's office found widespread evidence of significant servicer errors in bankruptcy-related filings, such as inflated and bogus fees, and even substantial, completely made up charges. Yet the services and banks will suffer no real consequences for these abuses.

10. A deal on robosiginging serves to cover up the much deeper chain of title problem. And don't get too excited about the New York, Massachusetts, and Delaware MERS suits. They put pressure on banks to clean up this monstrous mess only if the AGs go through to trial and get tough penalties. The banks will want to settle their way out of that too. And even if these cases do go to trial and produce significant victories for the AGs, they still do not address the problem of failures to transfer notes correctly.

11. Don't bet on a deus ex machina in terms of the new federal foreclosure task force to improve this picture much. If you think Schneiderman, as a co-chairman who already has a full-time day job in New York, is going to outfox a bunch of D.C. insiders who are part of the problem, you are smoking something very strong.

12. We'll now have to listen to banks and their sycophant defenders declaring victory despite being wrong on the law and the facts. They will proceed to marginalize and write off criticisms of the servicing practices that hurt homeowners and investors and are devastating communities. But the problems will fester and the housing market will continue to suffer. Investors in mortgage-backed securities, who know that services have been screwing them for years, will be hung out to dry and will likely never return to a private MBS market, since the problems won't ever be fixed. This settlement has not only revealed the residential mortgage market to be too big to fail, but puts it on long term, perhaps permanent, government life support.

As we've said before, this settlement is yet another raw demonstration of who wields power in America, and it isn't you and me. It's bad enough to see these negotiations come to their predictable, sorry outcome. It adds insult to injury to see some try to depict it as a win for long suffering, still abused homeowners.




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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 12:36:20 PM »
What the foreclosure settlement means for you
CNN Money ^ | February 9, 2012 | By Les Christie

Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:20:13 PM by Oldeconomybuyer

What did the mortgage lenders and loan servicers agree to do?

The banks and servicers have committed at least $17 billion to reduce principal for borrowers who 1) owe far more than their homes are worth 2) are behind on payments. The amount of principal reduction will average about $20,000 per borrower.

Another $3 billion will go toward refinancing mortgages for borrowers who are current on their payments. This will enable them to take advantage of the historic low interest rates currently available.

The banks will pay $5 billion directly to the states, the only hard money involved in the deal. Out of that fund will come payments of $1,500 to $2,000 to homeowners who lost their homes to foreclosure. Other funds will be paid to legal aid and homeowner advocacy organizations to help individuals facing foreclosure or experiencing servicer abuses.

Another $1 billion will be paid directly by Bank of America to the Federal Housing Administration to settle charges that its subsidiary, Countrywide Financial, defrauded the housing agency.


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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 01:07:16 PM »
The Nonsensical $26 Billion Attorney General Settlement – The Wrath of Cordray


http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/25-billion-attorney-general-settlement-the-wrath-of-cordray





 The long anticipated $26 billion settlement between large banks and various state’s Attorney Generals is almost ready for release. It will be a $26 billion settlement with 5 big banks for alleged foreclosure abuses and servicing issues. The spearhead of the settlement is the former Attorney General for Ohio, Richard Cordray who is now the head of the newly formed Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB).

In a nutshell, up to 2 million homeowners could receive mortgage aid through the proposed deal. Under the plan, federal officials said Thursday, about $5 billion will go in cash payments to states and federal authorities, $17 billion will be earmarked for homeowner relief, roughly $3 billion will go for refinancing and a final $1 billion will go to the Federal Housing Administration. If nine other major servicers join the pact, a possibility that is now under discussion with the government, the total package could rise to $30 billion.

So, $26 billion settlement spread over 2 million borrowers averages $13,000 per borrower. [The original number was 1 million borrowers, but today's announcement raised it to 2 million].

To be sure, default and foreclosure is a traumatic and horrible event for most borrowers and I have great sympathy for them. And there is frustration by borrowers at not receiving a loan modification (or the frustration of the process). However, the Attorney General settlement is aimed heavily at the process, the “robosigning” issue, rather than the root cause of the problem (decline in home prices and the increase in unemployment during a severe recession).

The robosigning issue, where loan servicers allegedly processed foreclosures without proper review (and sometimes without proper title) confuses two issues: default versus the foreclosure process. The first issue is that the borrower actually defaulted on their promissory note to the lender. Thus, the lender was harmed. The second issue is foreclosure, the process where the servicer attempts to reclaim the dwelling that serves as collateral for the loan. Given the unprecedented volume of defaults, some servicers attempted to speed the process through “robosigning.” Of course, robosigning is not a good way to proceed with foreclosures (particularly without clear and proper title to the collateral). So, the borrower had defaulted on their promissory note. All robosigning did was speed up the already painfully slow foreclosure process – it did not damage or harm the vast majority of borrowers. In fact, it was the bank or investor that was harmed by 1) the default on the promissory note and 2) the borrower failing to move out of the dwelling upon default.

The remedy for robosigning is to review the foreclosures and see if any borrowers were wrongfully evicted. To the best of my knowledge, that has already been done. So, why are 750,000 borrowers receiving checks for between $1,500 and $2,000 if they would have been evicted anyway? Stated differently, the borrower suffered no economic harm while the lender suffered economic harm. Hence, I don’t understand the point of the settlement.

The other issue is that the Attorney Generals feel that more borrowers should have received loan payment reductions and/or principal write downs. We already have private loan modification programs at the targeted banks and servicers along with Treasury’s HAMP and HARP programs. How many different government loan modification programs are we going to create (particularly since they don’t work very well). I am disturbed by the continuing intervention into the private market and contracts between the borrower and the lender by not only the Federal government, but by the State Attorney Generals as well. Chronic intervention is damaging for the housing and mortgage markets and slows the healing process.

Hopefully, the settlement will put an end to endless intrusion by State governments into private markets and we can move towards letting the markets heal. But the Obama Administration has created a new body to investigate the mortgage crisis, so I doubt that this is the end of the story. It may only be the first chapter of many. And Richard Cordray is now the head of an unaccountable government bureaucracy, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

In summary, I feel sorry for all those people who have lost their jobs, suffered from medical problems and gone through divorce: the three major causes of mortgage default. But none of those causes can be attributed to the servicing industry. Nor can robosigning, a sloppy practice, be blamed for borrower default. In other words the Attorney General settlement treats the symptoms rather than the cause of the problem (and actually confuses the relationship between default and foreclosure). Hence, this is poor public policy, even if the Attorney Generals and borrowers are angry at the servicers.

If loan servicing is a problem, fix it. Or address specific issues in courts. A one size fits all settlement is the wrong way to go. Furthermore, the $26 billion settlement against the largest banks will hurt the banks in terms of capital and one million borrowers receive a wealth redistribution from the banks and pension funds.

That is correct. The bank share will be about $7 billion. The rest of the $26 billion will come from investors in mortgages (such as mortgage-backed securities held by pension funds). So once again, the government is ordering a wealth redistribution from investors and pension funds to borrowers … who weren’t harmed by robosigning.

One size fits all hats only fit the average sized head. And badly at that.

And wait and see how a trustee is going to dole out $26 billion to borrowers!

Photo of CFPB head Richard Cordray ready for action! “To the last, I will grapple with thee… from Hell’s heart, I stab at thee! For hate’s sake, I spit my last breath at thee!”


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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2012, 07:05:48 AM »
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/10/banks_get_off_easy_in_mortgage_settlement_deal/singleton

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Banks get off easy in mortgage settlement deal


Foreclosure victims will get modest benefits and lenders will feel little pain as fraud investigation continues

By Matt Stoller .



Bank on us: Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder  (Credit: Reuters)
On Thursday, a group of well-connect and powerful men announced at a press conference in DC that the Federal government and state attorneys general had agreed to a multi-billion settlement of claims relating to falsified foreclosure documents.  The image of former corporate lawyer turned Attorney General Eric Holder and Iowa official Tom Miller complimenting each other on their courage and bravery was a stark reminder of how little power foreclosure victims have in Washington.  The terms of the settlement were still secret, but we saw hints of what is to come – the website set up to inform the public noted that homeowners may not know for up to three years whether they are eligible for help. 

Rather than settling anything, this agreement is simply a continuation of the policy framework of both the Bush and the Obama administrations.  So what exactly is that framework?   It is, as Damon Silvers of the Congressional Oversight Panel which monitored the bailouts, once put it, to preserve the capital structures of the largest banks. We can either have a rational resolution to the foreclosure crisis or we can preserve the capital structure of the banks,” said Silvers in October, 2010.  ”We can’t do both.” Writing down debt that cannot be paid back – the approach FDR took – is off the table, as it would jeopardize the equity keeping those banks afloat.

This policy framework isn’t obvious, because it isn’t admissible in polite company.  Nonetheless, it occasionally gets out.  Back in August, 2010, at an “on background” briefing of financial bloggers, Treasury officials admitted that the point of its housing programs were to space out foreclosures so that banks could absorb smaller shocks to their balance sheets.  This is consistent with the President’s own words a few months later.

In October, 2010, President Obama publicly revealed how he sees the mortgage debt crisis.  “This is a multitrillion-dollar market and a multitrillion dollar problem,” he said, “and we’ve only got so much gravel.”

“We can’t magically sort of fix a decline in home values that’s so severe in some markets that people are $100,000 to $150,000 underwater,” he continued.  “What we can do is to try to create sort of essentially bridge programs that help people stabilize, refinance where they can, and in some cases not just get pummeled if they decide that they want to move.”

At the time, the President was referring to HAMP, the $75 billion program announced in March, 2009 as the administration’s signature program to address problems in the housing market.  HAMP had been created because Senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon demanded some remaining bailout money be used to help homeowners, or he would withhold a critical vote on unlocking the authority for the administration to get more TARP money.  Larry Summers sent a letter to Merkley offering both a debt write-down plan (“cramdown”) and the dedication of up to $75 billion of money to help homeowners, in return for his vote.  In fact, administration officials had already decided that they would not pursue a debt write-down.

The settlement announced yesterday, whether you believe the $25 billion number (of which only $5 billion is actual cash), is one third the size of HAMP.  As Obama noted nearly two years ago, that’s just not very much gravel.

A more realistic solution to the problem was actually debated within the administration during the transition, in debates revealed by economist Laura Tyson at the Financial Times’s View from the Top Conference in 2011.   She noted that top officials had to decide whether to engage in mass write-downs of debt similar to FDR’s programs in the 1930s by using tools such as judicial modification (known as “cramdown”), or whether to allow millions of foreclosures to go forward.  They chose the latter. The current foreclosure epidemic, in other words, is partially a policy choice.

Everything done subsequent to that decision has been designed to mask this essential policy choice.  This settlement is simply the latest example.  While the headline number on the settlement is $26 billion, the actual cost to the banks and benefit to homeowners could be far lower, depending on how this complicated system of “credits” will be allocated.  The banks will in all likelihood be able to charge off activities they had already planned, such as not pursuing deficiency judgments, refinancing, and loan modifications.  Some of the money may wind up being be paid not by banks, but by investors, such as pension funds.

Moreover, when the banks have reached settlements with law enforcement officials, they generally don’t hold to them.  The Nevada Attorney General recently sued Bank of America for violating an agreements the state had made with Countrywide (once the largest mortgage originator in the country, now owned by BOA)  to end various predatory practices.  When you issue parking tickets instead of handcuffs for multi-billion crimes, the crime spree continues unabated.  And obviously, HAMP, which was originally budgeted at three times the size of this settlement, has been a complete catastrophe.

Undergirding all of the chatter about the settlement is a basic reality that is not acknowledged by the administration.  There has simply been no thorough investigation of how the mortgage servicer market works, or how extensive forgery and fraud are.  Banks routinely claim that few people have lost their home due to faulty foreclosures, and while that’s probably not true, we simply don’t know the extent of the problem.  In effect, this settlement is a solution imposed on a problem yet to be diagnosed.

The next investigation

At the State of the Union, the President announced a new task force to investigate the abuses leading up to the mortgage crisis, as well as related tax and bank fraud questions.  This force is a multi-headed hydra, led by officials from the Department of Justice and New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.

The initial signs aren’t hopeful; DOJ has assigned 55 people to the task force, including 10 FBI agents.  During the S&L crisis, which was forty times smaller that this one, roughly 1000 FBI agents were involved in the investigation.  To put it another way, given the $5 trillion of home equity lost in the crisis, DOJ has assigned one person for every $100 billion lost.  It is as if Apple lost its entire cash horde of $100 billion, and the government assigned just one person to find out what happened.

But there has been a good amount of private litigation and effort already, so though unlikely, it isn’t absolutely hopeless that there could be some handcuffs.  A good test case to see what happens next is to see who is chosen to head the task force on a staff-level.  Someone like former TARP Inspector General Neil Barofsky or Congressman Brad Miller of North Carolina would indicate some level of seriousness.  A traditional Justice Department bureaucrat would indicate otherwise.

Settlement or no, the housing crisis isn’t going away.  The entire mortgage market at this point is backstopped by the government, and even so, housing prices are sliding.  The roughly one trillion dollars of underwater mortgages and the destruction of the rule of law in the private mortgage market need to be dealt with, one way or another.  And they will be, whether through a restoration of a healthy housing market, or through the end of broad homeownership as part of the American experience.

 

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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2012, 06:17:39 AM »
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Foreclosure pact promises more trouble
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | Feb12, 2012 | David Roeder
Posted on February 12, 2012 9:15:03 AM EST by KeyLargo

Foreclosure pact promises more trouble

DAVID ROEDER

droeder@suntimes.com Last Modified: Feb 12, 2012 02:25AM

The foreclosure settlement involving Illinois and 48 other states is much ado about $25 billion, but for homeowners still in a heap of financial trouble, it signifies little besides more pain.

The banks involved will like it, and their investors should draw comfort as well. By settling, the five large banks have indemnified themselves against civil lawsuits over robo-signing and faked paperwork. Criminal charges are possible, but hardly likely. The banks get financial certainty as opposed to the prospect of endless litigation. That should help the shares of four banks involved — JPMorgan Chase (JPM), Bank of America (BAC), Citigroup (C) and Wells Fargo (WFC). The fifth one in the deal, Ally Financial, is not publicly traded. The deal does not cover loans backed by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, a major limitation.

Some homeowners will get reductions in mortgage principals. A few who lost homes will get direct payments, perhaps $2,000 each, which might not even pay the moving expenses. But the larger impact will be on the housing market itself.

Expect banks to turn up the flow of foreclosures. They’ve held them back because of the robo-signing scandal, causing national foreclosures to fall about 46 percent from October 2010 to last December, according to RealtyTrac.

A sharp increase in foreclosures will snuff out any recovery in most U.S. cities. Before the foreclosure settlement was announced, the realty data provider Zillow estimated housing prices in the Chicago area will fall an average 7.6 percent this year, on top of a 36 percent decline since the 2006 peak.

In 2011, Chicago area prices fell 10.9 percent, the second largest decline of 25 major cities in the U.S., by Zillow’s reckoning.

Stan Humphries, chief economist at Zillow, said its forecast took into account the likelihood for a foreclosure settlement. He said that while the pace of liquidations will rise, he doesn’t expect lenders to flood the market.

Some will say the attorneys general who settled this case sold out too cheaply. More to the point, the settlement took too long. It does more for narrow political interests than for aggrieved homeowners. And the dispute put off housing’s great reckoning. The market needs a purgative. Without more foreclosures or targeted mortgage relief, prices cannot stabilize.

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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2012, 08:44:19 AM »

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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2012, 06:07:22 PM »

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February 11, 2012
The Deal Is Done, but Hold the Applause
By GRETCHEN MORGENSON
FIVE big banks finally reached a deal with government authorities last week over dubious mortgage practices and foreclosure abuses.

After months of talks, Ally Financial, Bank of America, Citibank, JPMorgan Chase and Wells Fargo agreed to pay a total of $5 billion in cash to try to remedy this fiasco. They will also help homeowners who are underwater on their mortgages by reducing the principal on their loans by a combined $17 billion over the next three years.

Borrowers who qualify will get $3 billion in refinancing arrangements. Those who were improperly foreclosed on will get a combined $1.5 billion. That probably nets out to less than $2,000 a person.

The banks crowed that this settlement would help the economy and the reputation of the mortgage industry. Michael J. Heid, president of Wells Fargo Home Mortgage, characterized the deal as “a very important step toward restoring confidence in mortgage servicing and stability in the housing market.”

But it’s hard to imagine that this one settlement will be enough to restore trust in loan servicers. Given what we know about their questionable practices — how they larded improper fees on struggling homeowners, for example, and forced people to buy home insurance at three times market rates — restoring confidence in these firms will take some doing.

There’s no doubt that the banks are happy with this deal. You would be, too, if your bill for lying to courts and end-running the law came to less than $2,000 per loan file.

As for the supposed benefits to the economy, skeptics abound. One of them is Paul Diggle, property economist at Capital Economics in London. In a report last week, he rejected the notion — espoused by both banks and government authorities — that this deal would help turn around the American housing market.

For most homeowners, it will barely move the needle. Forgiving $17 billion in principal “is a drop in the ocean,” Mr. Diggle said, “given that close to 11 million borrowers are underwater on their loans to the tune of $700 billion in total.” Doing the math, $17 billion in write-downs would be about 2.4 percent of the total negative equity weighing down borrowers across the nation now.

Yves Smith, the perspicacious founder of the Naked Capitalism Web site, was especially critical. In a post, “The Top 12 Reasons Why You Should Hate the Mortgage Settlement,” she wrote that this deal was a stealth bailout of the major banks.

Why? It will improve the value of the second liens or home equity lines of credit they own. These vast holdings — roughly $400 billion — are worthless if the first mortgages preceding them are underwater. But if the banks don’t write down the second liens alongside the first mortgages, the seconds become more valuable. A lower principal balance on the first mortgage makes the second more likely to pay.

But perhaps the largest question looming over this settlement is how it will be policed. Recent history is littered with agreements that required banks to take specific steps to make amends. All too often, the banks have skated away from their promises.

A prime example is a settlement over predatory lending that was reached by Countrywide Financial in 2008. Led by attorneys general in California and Illinois, that deal had Countrywide vowing to provide $8.4 billion in loan relief to borrowers in the form of lower interest rates and loan modifications.

It sounded good on paper. But Bank of America, Countrywide’s parent, defied many aspects of the settlement, according to Catherine Cortez Masto, Nevada’s attorney general. She sued Bank of America last summer, contending that it had raised interest rates on loan modifications even though Countrywide had promised to lower them.

Bank of America also declined to provide loan modifications to qualified homeowners as required in the deal and improperly proceeded with foreclosures while borrowers’ modification requests were pending, Ms. Masto’s suit said. Furthermore, the bank failed to meet the settlement’s 60-day requirement on granting new loan terms, allowing months — and in some cases, more than a year — to go by with no resolution, the lawsuit said.

Bank of America has disputed the allegations.

Other borrower programs also seemed promising until bank resistance stymied them. Consider the Foreclosure Mediation Program in Nevada, set up in 2009 to help resolve the mountain of delinquent and troubled loans in that state.

Under the program, banks must mediate with borrowers who request such help. But two years of statistics, through last September, show 5,771 cases where mediators found that banks had failed to participate in good faith or were not complying with other aspects of the mediation law. That is equivalent to 42 percent of all the mediations completed in the program.

Perhaps more troubling, the percentage of mediations where lenders have failed to comply has risen in the most recent six months of data.

“It’s astounding that in such a huge percentage of cases the lenders are not complying,” said Philip A. Olsen, a former Nevada Supreme Court settlement conference judge. “The banks have learned that they can thumb their noses at the program and it won’t cost them anything.”

So you have to wonder whether banks will thumb their noses at last week’s settlement, too. That makes policing compliance crucial.

That task falls to Joseph A. Smith Jr., the banking commissioner for North Carolina since 2002. Not only must he oversee the monetary relief programs in the settlement, he must also enforce extensive changes to loan-servicing practices that the deal entails.

I had hoped to ask Mr. Smith how he planned to monitor the expansive and arcane terms of the settlement and what size of army he would be deploying to ensure that the banks fulfilled their promises. But he was not available on Friday to answer my questions.

An administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the deal, said that Mr. Smith would hire accountants and consulting firms to audit the banks’ performance and that as monitor, he would be able to interview bank employees. If the monitor finds that a bank has failed to meet its commitment, he can impose penalties of up to $5 million, depending on the errors’ seriousness or frequency.

Additional details will emerge. But this kind of minutiae will determine whether the settlement succeeds. So many borrower programs have failed since the foreclosure crisis began. Another nonstarter will only add to the mistrust that many people harbor toward those large institutions, both public and private, that contributed so mightily to this mess.


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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2012, 08:38:36 AM »
Slowly but surely, Nobama is digging his own grave.

The man is sabotaging himself and his party.

4 weeks ago...I would have predicted that Barack was definitely getting back in.....but now....with all his antics....especially in the last week or so.....he will probably lose the race to Romney.


Gas is going up......unemployment is up.....and the Obama administration is trying to cover it up....He is in trouble.

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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2012, 07:05:23 PM »
This deal is really nothing more than more wealth redistribution from responsible people to dead beats who Obama needs to show up on election day. 

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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2012, 04:15:02 AM »
4 weeks ago...I would have predicted that Barack was definitely getting back in.....but now....with all his antics....especially in the last week or so.....he will probably lose the race to Romney.

the betters of the world see it the other way.

Three weeks ago, they had him at a 51% chance of winning re-election.   Today, he's up to 60%.

Despite obama's flaws, those willing to put their money on the line believe the GOP field is just too weak and extreme.  Santorum is a hilarious mess.  Romney is so similar to obama - without the experience - and has suffered a 19 point sing with independents since november.  Up 10 points, to down 9 points, to obama with independents (and those independents are the ones that settle elections).

If youre confident, bet on it.  If obama loses and you bet today, you'd be a rich man.  But those world gamblers don't think he'll lose.

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Re: Another Obama Abortion: "Mortgage Deal From Hell"
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2012, 07:44:58 AM »
The Farce-Hole Gets Deeper: Obama's "Robo-Settlement For Votes" Cost To Taxpayers: $40 Billion
Zero Hedge ^ | 02/16/2012 | Tyler Durden





Plunging deeper into the farce-hole, the FT reports tonight that Obama's foreclosure settlement with the banks over their improper seizure of tax-paying US citizens' homes will in fact be subsidized by those very same US taxpayers. It is a hidden clause (that has not been made public yet) that allows the banks to count future loan modifications under the $30bn (taxpayer funded) HAMP initiative towards their $35bn agreement to restructure obligations under the new settlement. As the FT goes on to note, BofA will be able to use future mods made under HAMP towards the $7.6bn in borrower assistance it is committed to provide - which means, in a (as TARP inspector general Neil Barofsky describes) 'scandalous' turn of events the bank will receive payments for averting a borrower default and be reimbursed by the taxpayer for the principal write-down. We have much stronger words for how we are feeling about this but Barofsky sums it up calmly "It turns the notion that this is about justice and accountability on its head". Are the Big Five banks truly beyond the law?


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