Built without GH ??

[Borracho]

Is it safe to say these dudes were not on gh?

[DroppingPlates]

They were, look at their jaws, but prob on lower dosages and less effective stuff.

[Borracho]

They were, look at their jaws, but prob on lower dosages and less effective stuff.

Arnie's jaw looks the most Neanderthal like. I'm just trying to determine what is really achievable on absolutely zero growth hormone.

There was a big jump in size from the bbers of the 50's to the 70's wasn't there?  


I think it was you that posted a chart with actual weights of bbers before...I'm gonna look that up

[DroppingPlates]

Good question, but why do you want to know? Because of its high price?
They made a big step forward in those 2 decades, the overall quality of the gear has increased a lot.
Any gear historians here, who can elaborate on this?

[wes]

Good question, but why do you want to know? Because of its high price?
They made a big step forward in those 2 decades, the overall quality of the gear has increased a lot.
Any gear historians here, who can elaborate on this?

Gear was legal and accessible in the 70`s and 80`s,plus advancements in nutrition,training,and better exercise equipment.

Guys in the 50`s trained whole body 3 X a week for the most part.........Arnold trained twice a day 6 X a week before a contest.

[OptimusPrime1980]

if one does a little research on gh.... it was available mid to late 70's as crescormon.... a commercial cadaver gh product.
i think even before that period it would be available to people with money.... i mean today we can get our hands on peptides that are not even used in medicine yet.... all about connections....
wasn't any different in the 70's.
now think about how your bodybuilding mind works.... what would you do ?
you think aahhhnold was any different??
NO! lol....
yes arnold experimented with gh... and i bet some of his buddies as well....
it was not like the abuse today though... and it was cadaver!!! same stuff your body makes....
works a little better i think....

[Borracho]

ahh fuck it  

Just gonna be speculation anyway. Thing is I'm afraid of gh sides and was wondering what might be possible solely on high aas doses. I'll never look anything like sergio no matter what I take anyway...stupid thread. Throw it in the trash along with the benny b threads.

Nothing to see here folks.

[sync pulse]

and it was cadaver!!! same stuff your body makes....
works a little better i think....

Recombinant DNA synthesis is exactly like your body makes...but without the Creutzfeldt–Jakob...

[wes]

if one does a little research on gh.... it was available mid to late 70's as crescormon.... a commercial cadaver gh product.
i think even before that period it would be available to people with money.... i mean today we can get our hands on peptides that are not even used in medicine yet.... all about connections....
wasn't any different in the 70's.
now think about how your bodybuilding mind works.... what would you do ?
you think aahhhnold was any different??
NO! lol....
yes arnold experimented with gh... and i bet some of his buddies as well....
it was not like the abuse today though... and it was cadaver!!! same stuff your body makes....
works a little better i think....

I`m not doubting you,and I`ve heard it said before,but who saw Arnold inject GH and reported it......anybody know ?

[Mr Nobody]

3,2,1 until GH15 responds.

[Borracho]

Gear was legal and accessible in the 70`s and 80`s,plus advancements in nutrition,training,and better exercise equipment.

Guys in the 50`s trained whole body 3 X a week for the most part.........Arnold trained twice a day 6 X a week before a contest.

See, what you say here makes me wanna believe that guys like Sergio and Arnold were all hard work and just good ol gear like deca/dbol/primo.

[A Professional]

Arnie's jaw has always been square. The bullshit that proliferates around here is rediculous.

[wes]

3,2,1 until GH15 responds.

I`ve been waiting too. 

[sync pulse]

Arnie's jaw has always been square. The bullshit that proliferates around here is rediculous.

Arnold had surgery to reduce his jawline.

[Borracho]

if one does a little research on gh.... it was available mid to late 70's as crescormon.... a commercial cadaver gh product.
i think even before that period it would be available to people with money.... i mean today we can get our hands on peptides that are not even used in medicine yet.... all about connections....
wasn't any different in the 70's.
now think about how your bodybuilding mind works.... what would you do ?
you think aahhhnold was any different??
NO! lol....
yes arnold experimented with gh... and i bet some of his buddies as well....
it was not like the abuse today though... and it was cadaver!!! same stuff your body makes....
works a little better i think....

Well, bodybuilders are always the first to try shit out...walking experiments lol

[A Professional]

How much GH do you guys think Leno takes? His hands seem pretty big too.

[wes]

See, what you say here makes me wanna believe that guys like Sergio and Arnold were all hard work and just good ol gear like deca/dbol/primo.

I see no proof that they used GH,other than hearsay.

[Borracho]

I see no proof that they used GH,other than hearsay.

I think its safe to say that they weren't running no 15 ius of gh plus insulin otherwise they would have mutated into one of todays beasts. Also, had they been on a low dose constantly I think we would've at least seen them in better condition. Maybe they tried it but not enough for it to make a noticeable difference in their physiques.

[wes]

I think its safe to say that they weren't running no 15 ius of gh plus insulin otherwise they would have mutated into one of todays beasts. Also, had they been on a low dose constantly I think we would've at least seen them in better condition. Maybe they tried it but not enough for it to make a noticeable difference in their physiques.

It`s certainly possible,but nobody truly knows,regardless of what they tell you.

Until I see proof,it never happened.

Of course here on getbig,guys can tell you what you`re on just by taking a look at you right down to the last milligram. 

[oliveiraugo]

no hgh = no bodybuild

gh15 approved. 

[Voland]

the cadaver gh is strong.

[wes]

Cadaver GH was around,and we all know what these guys would do to get to the top...............but if no one saw it happen,it means jackshit..........just conjecture.

No real telltale signs of GH use/abuse IMO.........elbows,hands,jawline,etc.

[OptimusPrime1980]

Recombinant DNA synthesis is exactly like your body makes...but without the Creutzfeldt–Jakob...

well yeah i know.... but dudes that i know who have used it, swore it was stronger...
kinda like the tren A vs Tren E thing.... only the ester is different...it's the same hormone right.?? well irl it is night and day difference...doesn't make sense i agree....
also on cadaver gh they had permanent changes much faster then with the synthetic gh...
and the creutzfeldt jakob thing.... well a handfull got it.... that is just a little % of the total people who have used it.... if i ever run into some cadaver.... i'll take it! lol!!  

[wes]

well yeah i know.... but dudes that i know who have used it, swore it was stronger...
kinda like the tren A vs Tren E thing.... only the ester is different...it's the same hormone right.?? well irl it is night and day difference...doesn't make sense i agree....
also on cadaver gh they had permanent changes much faster then with the synthetic gh...
and the creutzfeldt jakob thing.... well a handfull got it.... that is just a little % of the total people who have used it.... if i ever run into some cadaver.... i'll take it! lol!! 

Just kill a few people and store them in your cellar......when you run out,kill some more.......you`ll be huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[OptimusPrime1980]

Cadaver GH was around,and we all know what these guys would do to get to the top...............but if no one saw it happen,it means jackshit..........just conjecture.

No real telltale signs of GH use/abuse IMO.........elbows,hands,jawline,etc.

this was exactly the point i was trying to make....
they did whatever it took, just like todays champs... cadaver was around, you think for a second they did not use it??? yes they did.... i would if i was around in that era and was a top bodybuilder... why wouldn't they???
we all have the same sick mindset .... all bodybuilders have it lol!

and yeah, a good idea about the cellar wes! i will kill creeps/murderers and other lowlifes.....
eat there glands raw! that way it is as fresh as possible!