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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2012, 01:19:39 PM »
So you think you and others should use mind reading to predict what may happen when someone is running and think that the best option is to assume the worst and use the most force?

you are illogical.

It's just as likely she ran towards the woods, assuming she was going to run out into traffic as an accuse is stupid it's a unfounded assumption one that cost this lady her life pretty much. You are suggesting that we protect from the worst outcome, that is absurd.

Its not even logically from human psychology that she would put her life in dire straights as she is attempting to flea assumable because she values her life and freedom. It was a misdameanor which indicates that she wasn't violent, abusive etc.. thus her running if it is dangerous to her is more precious then stopping this criminal at all costs.

Seriously, the policy states that you cannot stun gun motherfuckers for fleaing, it states this. Thus, even from a justice perspective, he did the wrong thing, i find it both morally and logically wrong as well.



LOL your not too bright I see. She was a drug user, you think she was running to protect her life? 20 year old with a criminal record and drug abuse and you think she values her life and freedom?!

Do you suggest he should have chased after her? Do you know what a 267 pound man taking down a 100 pound addict could have done.

Using a tazer is always safer then tackling someone.

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2012, 01:20:56 PM »
the sound when cops run, it always sounds like a fat guy that really don't want to have run at all, their pant's must be heavy or something

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2012, 01:21:23 PM »
not really. The outcome could have been worse. Stop covering your ears and saying "la la la"

Worse than braindead for a misdemeanor?

HaHAHAHA!! Do you honestly believe this?

Please tell me what absolutely improbable thing you will say could be "worse".

Fact. Girl was no danger to anyone.
Fact. Girl was tased from behind.
Fact. Girl is braindead.


What "what if" scenario would you like to present that is even remotely "likely"?

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2012, 01:24:01 PM »
LOL your not too bright I see. She was a drug user, you think she was running to protect her life? 20 year old with a criminal record and drug abuse and you think she values her life and freedom?!

Do you suggest he should have chased after her? Do you know what a 267 pound man taking down a 100 pound addict could have done.

Using a tazer is always safer then tackling someone.

She was arrested... He probably already knows who she is and where she lives.

I am more than confident he could have just gone to her house later on and picked her up.


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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2012, 01:24:48 PM »
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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2012, 01:27:51 PM »
She was arrested... He probably already knows who she is and where she lives.

I am more than confident he could have just gone to her house later on and picked her up.



LOL I'm done with this argument. I'm sure she would have ran home and the cops would have just stopped by and interrupted her during tea time to bring her to the station.

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2012, 01:31:30 PM »
LOL I'm done with this argument. I'm sure she would have ran home and the cops would have just stopped by and interrupted her during tea time to bring her to the station.

Don't bullshit, you know full well that most criminals are caught at home.

A misdemeanor man... come on... She's not fleeing the country over a misdemeanor.

You should be done with the argument because you're ridiculous.

The girl isn't some fucking Algerian terrorist who is running to Mexico over a drug charge or some shit.

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2012, 01:31:54 PM »
had it been a 20yo wannabe thug you'll all be applauding. When did the society start giving privileges to the women...
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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2012, 01:32:51 PM »
So you think you and others should use mind reading to predict what may happen when someone is running and think that the best option is to assume the worst and use the most force?

no one claimed anything remotely close to mind reading or advocated using the most force

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It's just as likely she ran towards the woods, assuming she was going to run out into traffic as an accuse is stupid it's a unfounded assumption one that cost this lady her life pretty much. You are suggesting that we protect from the worst outcome, that is absurd.

if you watch the video, you can see she is running towards US-19, and the distance between the road and the station is not much.

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Its not even logically from human psychology that she would put her life in dire straights as she is attempting to flea assumable because she values her life and freedom. It was a misdameanor which indicates that she wasn't violent, abusive etc.. thus her running if it is dangerous to her is more precious then stopping this criminal at all costs.

ironic that you accuse me of "assuming" up above and then you make the assumption the woman wouldn't be crazy enough to run into traffic after she was already involved in 2 hit-and-run accidents, was driving with a suspended license, and had cocaine in her system. lol

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Seriously, the policy states that you cannot stun gun motherfuckers for fleaing, it states this. Thus, even from a justice perspective, he did the wrong thing, i find it both morally and logically wrong as well.

I already addressed this

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2012, 01:41:08 PM »
This is the society we live in. What the cop did isnt the issue. Did he do the wrong thing? possibly, but that girl should not have forced him to make that decision. The bottom line is the girl ran from the police!!! Why are you excusing this from the argument? If she did not run from the police would she have been tazed? no

What the cop did IS the issue, with authority comes responsibility.

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #61 on: February 17, 2012, 01:44:45 PM »
This girl is a victim.  A victim of her own poor choices.  It sickens me that people and the media are trying to portray her as such.  For the most part cops are normal guys that have to do a stressful job, a job in which the instruction manual isn't always applicable.   Granted it sucks that she is brain dead, but based on what I saw she didnt hit her head all that hard and I wouldn't have guessed she had a bleed.  It seems there was some oversight that she wasnt medically evaluated to rule out a bleed, her mentation would have declined over time and would have been noticed if people were looking, but thats it.

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2012, 01:51:41 PM »
Worse than braindead for a misdemeanor?

HaHAHAHA!! Do you honestly believe this?

Please tell me what absolutely improbable thing you will say could be "worse".

Fact. Girl was no danger to anyone.
Fact. Girl was tased from behind.
Fact. Girl is braindead.

What "what if" scenario would you like to present that is even remotely "likely"?

stop with the dramatized responses. The woman was a threat to herself and to society when she ran towards the road. She could have been hit and killed, the trooper could have been hit, or innocent bystanders could have been killed. Furthermore, if the trooper allowed her to escape by not using the taser or pursuing after her in traffic, then we would have a threat to society on the loose. She has already been involved in 2 hit-and-run accidents and clearly has little regard for the law hence her driving without a license and trying to escape. Who is to say the next time won't result in a death(s)? Like I have been saying from the beginning, it's unfortunate what happened to the woman but the trooper did what he had to do to put an end to the pursuit without risking her being a threat to herself or society.

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #63 on: February 17, 2012, 01:52:09 PM »
yep
Doesn't look like the ideal daughter-in-law, but I bet she's an animal in bed, before the brain-dead-thing that is.  Just shoot that cop... >:(

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #64 on: February 17, 2012, 01:55:10 PM »
stop with the dramatized responses. The woman was a threat to herself and to society when she ran towards the road. She could have been hit and killed, the trooper could have been hit, or innocent bystanders could have been killed. Furthermore, if the trooper allowed her to escape by not using the taser or pursuing after her in traffic, then we would have a threat to society on the loose. She has already been involved in 2 hit-and-run accidents and clearly has little regard for the law hence her driving without a license and trying to escape. Who is to say the next time won't result in a death(s)? Like I have been saying from the beginning, it's unfortunate what happened to the woman but the trooper did what he had to do to put an end to the pursuit without risking her being a threat to herself or society.

Your responses are all "what ifs" and "could have happeneds"

Too bad that factually speaking, we have some and that None of those are FACTS.

What is a fact is that while the girl was certainly no saint, she didn't deserve to end up braindead... Which she IS.

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #65 on: February 17, 2012, 01:58:30 PM »
same thing happened to me about a year ago. cops pulled up on me, turned on their lights, wanted me to surrender.. walked up to the front of their car looked them in the eyes as i flipped them off and turned around and started running as fast as i could.. blacked out after about 20 yards.. woke up in an ambulance.. they tazed my ass once i started running, the full force of my body slaming down into the ground head first knocked me out..

i dont blame them.. i blame myself for running from them.

momma needs to accept it was her daughters fault, not the po po.

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #66 on: February 17, 2012, 01:58:59 PM »
The cop did the right thing. We can't have these thugs run the streets. :)

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2012, 02:01:25 PM »
Dumb bitch made poor decisions, and now she is paying the consequences.  Freak accidents happen.  The cop did NOTHING wrong.  Is the outcome shitty? yes, it is...and unfortunate.  But shit happens.  the sooner you realize that in life, the sooner you'll refrain from making poor decisions.  

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2012, 02:02:57 PM »
Your responses are all "what ifs" and "could have happeneds"

Too bad that factually speaking, we have some and that None of those are FACTS.

What is a fact is that while the girl was certainly no saint, she didn't deserve to end up braindead... Which she IS.

this situation could have played out many ways. You asked me to provide examples of how it could have been worse and I did. Just b/c it only played out one way (i.e. the girl ended up brain dead) doesn't mean that's how it would have turned out 99 out of 100 times. You are only looking at this situation with hindsight bias. This was a freak accident. We must treat it as the exception rather than the norm.

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #69 on: February 17, 2012, 02:03:49 PM »
this situation could have played out many ways. You asked me to provide examples of how it could have been worse and I did. Just b/c it only played out one way (i.e. the girl ended up brain dead) doesn't mean that's how it would have turned out 99 out of 100 times. You are only looking at this situation with hindsight bias. However, this was a freak accident. We must treat it as the exception rather than the norm.

So by your logic, shooting her because of the imminent danger would have also been acceptable?

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #70 on: February 17, 2012, 02:04:15 PM »
Dumb bitch made poor decisions, and now she is paying the consequences.  Freak accidents happen.  The cop did NOTHING wrong.  Is the outcome shitty? yes, it is...and unfortunate.  But shit happens.  the sooner you realize that in life, the sooner you'll refrain from making poor decisions.  
You're a telecaster dude ?

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #71 on: February 17, 2012, 02:04:52 PM »
So by your logic, shooting her because of the imminent danger would have also been acceptable?

look up "loaded question"

I never suggested anything remotely close to shooting at the woman with bullets

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2012, 02:06:06 PM »
look up "loaded question"

I never suggested anything remotely close to shooting at the woman with a gun

I thought a taser was designed to be the alternative to a gun? That's what they always say when they are used.

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« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2012, 02:09:42 PM »
I thought a taser was designed to be the alternative to a gun? That's what they always say when they are used.

I'm pretty sure tasers don't fire bullets but you're welcome to educate me if I'm wrong

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Re: Cop Tases handcuffed girl in back, now braindead!
« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2012, 02:09:48 PM »
dumb bitch gets it for running from misdemeaner with cuffs on


agreed... fuck that whore, i'm glad he stopped her from wasting oxygen