why do drugs if you are not a bodybuilder?

[jakesonyou]

so my question is why would you do drugs and other steroids if you are not a bodybuilder.  what do you get out of this?

what is your end game goal?

-  become a model?  depending on your size maybe a calvin klein model or something like a muscle model.
-  pull hot chicks?  as discussed in my other topic you will probably only get 5/10 girls or muscle girls at best.  a meaningful relationship won't happen.
-  do you like to look at yourself in the mirror and flex?
-  feeling big makes you look intimidating and you enjoy staring down the young kids on the bus.
-  you like all the attention you get while grunting and locking out that last 650lbs deadlift.  all eyes on you big guy.

[Max B]

If youre around 6ft 190-220 shredded you will get quality girls. Wether u use drugs
To get there is irrelevant...

[BayGBM]

Vanity is a powerful drug.

[haider]

I don't see the 'normal' bodybuilding routine any differently.. spending countless hours in the gym 'isolating' each body part, spending money on protein powders and PWO supps, etc. etc.

You can have a good enough athletic build on a routine consisting of a few simple exercises and a lot fewer sets. And you don't need 400 grams of protein to 'maximize your gains'.

[240_Iz_Nutz]

The thing with it to me is that if you weigh like 180-190 normally, you can pull some miracles without doing a ton of shit. Of course you need to be fairly lean naturally. Do something like 50mg prop and 40 mg anavar ED and you can look amazing without every stepping it up to the slin and gh level. You have to be dedicated, do cardio, and eat. It won't cost a fortune either. Hell, just do the test p if the var is too expensive.

If you get into that 210-220 zone lean at say 6 ft, you will attract massive attention IF your genetics are right.

[True]

Balance is key.

The most healthy solution is to just workout on a regular basis with moderate weight training and cardio training. Diet is alfa omgea and you dont need tons of protein to build muscle or whatever. Doing 3-5 splits, cardio every day, buying supplements, and going on a diet is just for those who absolutely HAVE to maximize their gains, but is no where necessary in order to achivie a good and healthy body. Doing a full body workout 1-2 times a week and doing medium/high intensity cardio the rest of the week or whenever you feel its suitable, is more than good enough to achivie a good/lean body.

[240_Iz_Nutz]

Balance is key.

The most healthy solution is to just workout on a regular basis with moderate weight training and cardio training. Diet is alfa omgea and you dont need tons of protein to build muscle or whatever. Doing 3-5 splits, cardio every day, buying supplements, and going on a diet is just for those who absolutely HAVE to maximize their gains, but is no where necessary in order to achivie a good and healthy body. Doing a full body workout 1-2 times a week and doing medium/high intensity cardio the rest of the week or whenever you feel its suitable, is more than good enough to achivie a good/lean body.

Are you saying that moderate cycles, even just staying on test doesn't help? I have had results both ways,natty and geared,  but doing moderate cycles is better than drinking, smoking weed all day eating Cheetos and all kinds of other shit.

But I have sold guys stuff in the past that was working for me personally and they didn't seem to gain shit. There is a genetic factor in it. GH15 can say everybody can do it with this, that and a whole fucking basement filled with drugs. Sure, you can get huge. You aren't going to beat a Dexter Jackson in his prime. There is no reason not to do moderate cycles if you are dedicated and want to look good.

[wavelength]

Everyone who takes drugs for getting bigger muscles will at some point look back at his life and realize how dumb he was.
But that can be said pretty much about everything we encounter in life.

[SF1900]

Balance is key.

The most healthy solution is to just workout on a regular basis with moderate weight training and cardio training. Diet is alfa omgea and you dont need tons of protein to build muscle or whatever. Doing 3-5 splits, cardio every day, buying supplements, and going on a diet is just for those who absolutely HAVE to maximize their gains, but is no where necessary in order to achivie a good and healthy body. Doing a full body workout 1-2 times a week and doing medium/high intensity cardio the rest of the week or whenever you feel its suitable, is more than good enough to achivie a good/lean body.

I disagree about the 1-2 times a week. Some people actually like working out and don't mind going to the gym 4-5x a week. I realize that going 4-5x a week is not going to make me look any bigger. I just like going. Its better than sitting home and posting on GB all day  My routine has less to do with trying to attain a superhuman physique, and more about the fact that I just like to go.

[240_Iz_Nutz]

Everyone who takes drugs for getting bigger muscles will at some point look back at his life and realize how dumb he was.
But that can be said pretty much about everything we encounter in life.

I'm sure all the rich people getting legit GH and test therapy at reasonable doses will just want to hang themselves at some point. 

[wavelength]

I'm sure all the rich people getting legit GH and test therapy at reasonable doses will just want to hang themselves at some point. 

I didn't say that. But they too will at some point realize their stupidity.

[Borracho]

so my question is why would you do drugs and other steroids if you are not a bodybuilder.  what do you get out of this?

what is your end game goal?

-  become a model?  depending on your size maybe a calvin klein model or something like a muscle model.
-  pull hot chicks?  as discussed in my other topic you will probably only get 5/10 girls or muscle girls at best.  a meaningful relationship won't happen.
-  do you like to look at yourself in the mirror and flex?
-  feeling big makes you look intimidating and you enjoy staring down the young kids on the bus.
-  you like all the attention you get while grunting and locking out that last 650lbs deadlift.  all eyes on you big guy.

Why bodybuild?

Why get out of bed every morning?

Why have sex with your mom?

Just something to do I guess.

[hrspwr]

I smear a bit of testosterone cream [ scrip ] on my legs before I workout, but If I had the funds and connections I would use HGH just so I could eat ice cream every fucking day.  

[240_Iz_Nutz]

Would Wavelength believe you would regret the ice cream, or the GH more? 

[wavelength]

Would Wavelength believe you would regret the ice cream, or the GH more? 

I'm definitely not regreting the ice cream, eating some B&J Chocolate Fudge Brownie right now.

[True]

Are you saying that moderate cycles, even just staying on test doesn't help? I have had results both ways,natty and geared,  but doing moderate cycles is better than drinking, smoking weed all day eating Cheetos and all kinds of other shit.

But I have sold guys stuff in the past that was working for me personally and they didn't seem to gain shit. There is a genetic factor in it. GH15 can say everybody can do it with this, that and a whole fucking basement filled with drugs. Sure, you can get huge. You aren't going to beat a Dexter Jackson in his prime. There is no reason not to do moderate cycles if you are dedicated and want to look good.

I wasnt talking about drugs in particular actually as I dont know anything about them.

I disagree about the 1-2 times a week. Some people actually like working out and don't mind going to the gym 4-5x a week. I realize that going 4-5x a week is not going to make me look any bigger. I just like going. Its better than sitting home and posting on GB all day   My routine has less to do with trying to attain a superhuman physique, and more about the fact that I just like to go.

I like working out too, but in terms of what is necessary to achivie a good body - you dont have to do all that much. I train a 3-split right now, but I might go over to a simple full body workout instead because it is easier to stay and getting lean that way. The more weight lifting you do, the harder it is to lose proper weight as well. But you know, most guys want the best from both worlds. Thats why bodybuilders in particular take everything to extreme because they have to.

[Natural Man]

so my question is why would you do drugs and other steroids if you are not a bodybuilder.  what do you get out of this?

what is your end game goal?

-  become a model?  depending on your size maybe a calvin klein model or something like a muscle model.
-  pull hot chicks?  as discussed in my other topic you will probably only get 5/10 girls or muscle girls at best.  a meaningful relationship won't happen.
-  do you like to look at yourself in the mirror and flex?
-  feeling big makes you look intimidating and you enjoy staring down the young kids on the bus.
-  you like all the attention you get while grunting and locking out that last 650lbs deadlift.  all eyes on you big guy.

to "dominate" "impress" others males... and females.

Yes, we re animals who are conscious of being animals.

[Voland]

why have sex if you don't want to breed?

[Marlo Stanfield]

so my question is why would you do drugs and other steroids if you are not a bodybuilder.  what do you get out of this?

what is your end game goal?

-  become a model?  depending on your size maybe a calvin klein model or something like a muscle model.
-  pull hot chicks?  as discussed in my other topic you will probably only get 5/10 girls or muscle girls at best.  a meaningful relationship won't happen.
-  do you like to look at yourself in the mirror and flex?
-  feeling big makes you look intimidating and you enjoy staring down the young kids on the bus.
-  you like all the attention you get while grunting and locking out that last 650lbs deadlift.  all eyes on you big guy.

Vanity and pussy ...

[The Grim Lifter]

to "dominate" "impress" others males... and females.

Yes, we re animals who are conscious of being animals.

Why post on a bodybuilding board if your not a bodybuilder

[supernick]

why have sex if you don't want to breed?

well put  

[Natural Man]

why have sex if you don't want to breed?

because it's an anxyolitic AND a reproductive mean. Also helps to dominate others males/females to maintain the hierarchy in chimp groups while serving as an anxyolitic.

Dominating...being dominated...

[tbombz]

Everyone who takes drugs for getting bigger muscles will at some point look back at his life and realize how dumb he was.
But that can be said pretty much about everything we encounter in life.

well im not going to kill myself so what other options do i have  

[wavelength]

well im not going to kill myself so what other options do i have  

There are no options. I'm just mentioning what to expect at some point.
In no way am I judging anybody or anything. I'm the last person who would be entitled to that.

[The_Infidel]

Why post on a bodybuilding board if your not a bodybuilder

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