Author Topic: How many years is considered CLEAN. (Read 2595 times)

Polish Power · « **on:** February 20, 2012, 09:32:22 AM »

I know some natural BB associations require 5-7 years to be considered clean. What's Getbiggers opinions on this!

Polish Power · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:39:41 AM »

Should be at least 2 years due to metabolites like from deca stay in the body for up to 24 months.

jakesonyou · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:43:16 AM »

Once a drug addict always a drug addict

BiGHer · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:43:25 AM »

Clean means "not currently using" in my book. So If I stopped juice last week then I have been clean for a week! Obviously clean for a week looks different than clean for 2 years, etc.

Don't worry about Natural BB Federation standards as they aren't held as strict guidelines and most "Natural BBer's" are users. Not clean, not natural, but users.

Man of Steel · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:46:08 AM »

When all drug use stops and all effects of current drug use are out of your system.

Polish Power · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:48:22 AM »

I know of two federations who give lie detector tests and questions you on substances and clean for five years. How can you say your clean as soon as you stop?

Quote from: BiGHer on February 20, 2012, 09:43:25 AM

Clean means "not currently using" in my book. So If I stopped juice last week then I have been clean for a week! Obviously clean for a week looks different than clean for 2 years, etc.

Don't worry about Natural BB Federation standards as they aren't held as strict guidelines and most "Natural BBer's" are users. Not clean, not natural, but users.

Polish Power · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:49:58 AM »

Define addict? A user is not per say an addict!

Quote from: jakesonyou on February 20, 2012, 09:43:16 AM

Once a drug addict always a drug addict

CAPTAIN INSANO · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:55:07 AM »

When abusers just become users

Polish Power · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:55:16 AM »

Just my opinion, clean is defined, by me again just my opinion, when the last metabolite of what ever you are taking is out of your system.

Polish Power · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:56:19 AM »

Shouldn't it be the other way around, when users become abusers!

Quote from: CAPTAIN INSANO on February 20, 2012, 09:55:07 AM

When abusers just become users

BiGHer · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:56:48 AM »

Quote from: Polish Power on February 20, 2012, 09:48:22 AM

I know of two federations who give lie detector tests and questions you on substances and clean for five years. How can you say your clean as soon as you stop?

Lie detector tests are not 100% proven, nor are they given to 100% of the competitors.

Treat AAS like any other drug. It's like an AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) meeting where the only rule for attending is the desire to stop drinking. You'll always be an alcoholic, but if you didn't drink today then that is 1 day sober.

Being clean starts the moment you decide to stop using (and in fact do stop). Since most steroid users don't even compete, what does it matter what this federation or that federation determines as clean. Again, there is not 1 single federation out there where all of it's competitors are 100% natural (or even clean). The guys winning bodybuilding shows use drugs... end of story.

Drugs are drugs bro and you begin being clean the moment you stop using them. It's remaining clean that's the tough part.

Nails · « **Reply #11 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:00:17 AM »

A hooker whore can never be cleaned

Polish Power · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:01:47 AM »

Good point dude!

Quote from: BiGHer on February 20, 2012, 09:56:48 AM

Lie detector tests are not 100% proven, nor are they given to 100% of the competitors.

Treat AAS like any other drug. It's like an AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) meeting where the only rule for attending is the desire to stop drinking. You'll always be an alcoholic, but if you didn't drink today then that is 1 day sober.

Being clean starts the moment you decide to stop using (and in fact do stop). Since most steroid users don't even compete, what does it matter what this federation or that federation determines as clean. Again, there is not 1 single federation out there where all of it's competitors are 100% natural (or even clean). The guys winning bodybuilding shows use drugs... end of story.

Drugs are drugs bro and you begin being clean the moment you stop using them. It's remaining clean that's the tough part.

gym**rat · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:06:21 AM »

Quote from: jakesonyou on February 20, 2012, 09:43:16 AM

Once a drug addict always a drug addict

Once a dumbass, always a dumb ass.

Polish Power · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:15:51 AM »

Quote from: gym**rat on February 20, 2012, 10:06:21 AM

Once a dumbass, always a dumb ass.

X2

dave19 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:16:21 AM »

Quote from: BiGHer on February 20, 2012, 09:56:48 AM

Drugs are drugs bro and you begin being clean the moment you stop using them. It's remaining clean that's the tough part.

Well I'd say that depends on the half-life of the drug.

When you're an alcoholic and you're drunk as shit and had your last drink 5 minutes ago I wouldn't say that you've been sober for 5 minutes ..

Even more so when you're using something like test e or nandrolone decanoate.. stays in your system for weeks after your last shot.

When I stop using long-acting steroids it takes at least 3-4 weeks until I really start to notice the low hormone levels.

If you're thinking about bodybuilding competitions then I guess 2 years off would be enough time to be considered pretty much clean. You won't have kept a lot of muscle if any you have gained when you were on. After being on for a long long time it also takes quite a long time for all the "steroid muscle" to disappear. Once you've reached the point where you stop losing anymore muscle/strength that's when you could be considered clean..

FAST LANE · « **Reply #16 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:19:51 AM »

Agree with BiGHer on this one: clean = not currently ON

wes · « **Reply #17 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:22:35 AM »

750 mgs Sustanon every week = clean

gym**rat · « **Reply #18 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:27:06 AM »

Quote from: wes on February 20, 2012, 10:22:35 AM

750 mgs Sustanon every week = clean

What about 1000mg of Viagra eod? Clean or not clean. I know my sheets and ceiling would be dirty at that dose.

wes · « **Reply #19 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:31:40 AM »

Quote from: gym**rat on February 20, 2012, 10:27:06 AM

What about 1000mg of Viagra eod? Clean or not clean. I know my sheets and ceiling would be dirty at that dose.

Don`t worry about that,just keep your shit solid and no more diahrea posts please.

Growth NOOB · « **Reply #20 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:32:55 AM »

Uncle Wes always dropping some wisdom for the youngins

wes · « **Reply #21 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:34:22 AM »

Quote from: Growth NOOB on February 20, 2012, 10:32:55 AM

Uncle Wes always dropping some wisdom for the youngins

That`s my job brother!

gym**rat · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:35:20 AM »

Quote from: Growth NOOB on February 20, 2012, 10:32:55 AM

Uncle Wes always dropping some wisdom for the youngins

Bad thing is I am probably 10 yrs older than Wes, but still learning from him. Most of my newly gained wisdom has came from Your Average Gym Rat.

wes · « **Reply #23 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:36:10 AM »

Quote from: gym**rat on February 20, 2012, 10:35:20 AM

Bad thing is I am probably 10 yrs older than Wes, but still learning from him. Most of my newly gained wisdom has came from Your Average Gym Rat.

Same here!

BiGHer · « **Reply #24 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:03:05 AM »

Quote from: dave19 on February 20, 2012, 10:16:21 AM

When you're an alcoholic and you're drunk as shit and had your last drink 5 minutes ago I wouldn't say that you've been sober for 5 minutes ..

You missed my point and are just being nit-picky really.

Steroids, HGH, Insulin, etc... they are all DRUGS. Just like Cocaine, Aspirin, Marijuana, Alcohol, and Penicillin. All DRUGS.

Yes, some drugs last longer in your system than others, but when you stop taking them, you start becoming clean.

The problem is, most people don't truthfully like to look at anabolics as drugs, but when you do, it really becomes easy to answer questions like these.