Author Topic: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman (Read 29909 times)

wes · « **Reply #25 on:** February 25, 2012, 08:57:46 PM »

Quote from: BigBuehl on February 25, 2012, 08:40:10 PM

Training and diet dont matter. Didnt you get the memo? Want to eat fastfood? Just up the gh dose. To the op, post a current pic or gtfo LOL!!

True,what was I thinking ?

johnny1 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 25, 2012, 08:59:32 PM »

1991 Haney was in Prehaps his best shape and he STILL had a Tight waist line

wes · « **Reply #27 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:01:44 PM »

Quote from: johnny1 on February 25, 2012, 08:59:32 PM

1991 Haney was in Prehaps his best shape and he STILL had a Tight waist line

Fucking chest/shoulder to waist differential is insane.

We`ll never see that again.

johnny1 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:04:47 PM »

His MM and FLS in 91 was Incredible that taper was his Trademark though his era

johnny1 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:06:30 PM »

Quote from: wes on February 25, 2012, 09:01:44 PM

Fucking chest/shoulder to waist differential is insane.

We`ll never see that again.

Agreed the "Ballooned" look is here for the long-haul

johnny1 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:09:04 PM »

Mass with lines @ the Olympia 1987

BiGHer · « **Reply #31 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:18:53 PM »

Haney looked truly amazing, but this is a classic example of why it is important to go out on top. People's impression of you is often how you last left it:

Ronnie, in his PRIME, is untouchable...

Sometimes, I just think we need to be reminded... this man, was not human...

johnny1 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:19:44 PM »

1991 Haney vs 1998 Coleman mm

aesthetics · « **Reply #33 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:23:38 PM »

no one was ever better than ronnie in his prime. no one

US MUSL · « **Reply #34 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:30:24 PM »

Crazy thing is Haney had already won 8 Mr O's and been retired for 2 years at the age where ronnie won his first.

SomeKindofMonster · « **Reply #35 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:31:01 PM »

Ronnie's shoulder to waist ratio was also incredible.
He added some mass to his shoulders between 98-99
(his 1st year to not work full-time as a police officer)
which made his V taper that year probably his best ever.
The waist was still relatively small.

BiGHer · « **Reply #36 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:32:09 PM »

This is my point. Lee Haney went out on Top. That is forever etched into peoples minds. Ronnie stayed in after his prime and let the world watch his waist grow and his body slowly begin to deteriorate. However, when comparing them in their prime, no one touches Ronnie. He had the combination of everything: great genetics (insane natural strength, structure, muscle insertions, etc), a ridiculous response to drugs, the will and love to train with intensity, and commitment to diet and do everything he could to win. Also note: Not a deadly narcotics user or drinker.

Ronnie is once in a lifetime.

johnny1 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:33:53 PM »

Quote from: BiGHer on February 25, 2012, 09:18:53 PM

Haney looked truly amazing, but this is a classic example of why it is important to go out on top. People's impression of you is often how you last left it:

Ronnie, in his PRIME, is untouchable...

Sometimes, I just think we need to be reminded... this man, was not human...

Yes agreed, important to go out on top Legacy wise, Coleman should of Left after 2006 when he got 2nd place...Absolutely no Disgrace there in placeing 2nd, however he chose to "hang" around, Yates got out On top even though he wasnt what he was he KNEW it was time to go after the O in 1997....as Haney did before him KNEW when to go after the 1991 O.... however Coleman.... he wouldnt let it go and was Relegated down bye guys that wouldnt have tied his boot laces against him in 1998-01 and is now seen as a Joke by the new Generation of BBers where he's looking terrible in these Exhibition shows hes been doing since, the New Generation only see whats in front of them THESE DAYS and see him stumbling along LONG after his best is gone.

BiGHer · « **Reply #38 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:33:53 PM »

Quote from: US MUSL on February 25, 2012, 09:30:24 PM

Crazy thing is Haney had already won 8 Mr O's and been retired for 2 years at the age where ronnie won his first.

Yeah wasn't it 2003 where Ronnie basically peaked? He was like 43 years old I think.

US MUSL · « **Reply #39 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:37:49 PM »

Quote from: BiGHer on February 25, 2012, 09:32:09 PM

However, when comparing them in their prime, no one touches Ronnie. He had the combination of everything: great genetics (insane natural strength, structure, muscle insertions, etc), a ridiculous response to drugs, the will and love to train with intensity, and commitment to diet and do everything he could to win. Also note: Not a deadly narcotics user or drinker.

Ronnie is once in a lifetime.

Yeah, it's hard to even imagine a better bodybuilder than Ronnie at his peak. I saw Haney and Yates in person at their peak, unfortunately didn't get to see Ronnie.

johnny1 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:42:31 PM »

Quote from: US MUSL on February 25, 2012, 09:37:49 PM

Yeah, it's hard to even imagine a better bodybuilder than Ronnie at his peak. I saw Haney and Yates in person at their peak, unfortunately didn't get to see Ronnie.

Yip seen both Yates and Coleman when they were the Currant champs @ the time Yates @ a Exhibition in 1995 and Coleman in 04-05 coming out of Reliys, Did you actually see them both ONSTAGE in their Primes,? if so what was your Impression of the 2 of them

US MUSL · « **Reply #41 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:54:03 PM »

I saw Haney at the 88 O, his best was probably 91. But, in 88 he was so far ahead of the competition it wasn't even close. Probably one of the best V-tapers ever. His waist one one of the smallest onstage.

I was at the 93 O where Yates really blew up. I remember the competitors filing out onstage in two rows. Yates was in the back row and the last to step on stage. He slowly walked out, turned to the front, flexed his lats, and won the show. The crowd was blown away. Think he was only called out once or twice in the prejudging.

I also saw Coleman guest posing in the late 90's at Chad's Missouri BB Championship. One of my friends won the heavyweight division and overall at the show. Standing next to Coleman he looked like a child. Ronnie claimed to be 319lbs. I do know when Ronnie left he got in an airport shuttle van and you could see it dip to the side where he sat. Flex Wheeler and Nasser were also guest posers, not even close to Big Ron.

johnny1 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 25, 2012, 10:07:16 PM »

Quote from: US MUSL on February 25, 2012, 09:54:03 PM

I saw Haney at the 88 O, his best was probably 91. But, in 88 he was so far ahead of the competition it wasn't even close. Probably one of the best V-tapers ever. His waist one one of the smallest onstage.

I was at the 93 O where Yates really blew up. I remember the competitors filing out onstage in two rows. Yates was in the back row and the last to step on stage. He slowly walked out, turned to the front, flexed his lats, and won the show. The crowd was blown away. Think he was only called out once or twice in the prejudging.

I also saw Coleman guest posing in the late 90's at Chad's Missouri BB Championship. One of my friends won the heavyweight division and overall at the show. Standing next to Coleman he looked like a child. Ronnie claimed to be 319lbs. I do know when Ronnie left he got in an airport shuttle van and you could see it dip to the side where he sat. Flex Wheeler and Nasser were also guest posers, not even close to Big Ron.

Great insight....Yip most guys that have actually seen guys like Yates, Haney and Coleman ONSTAGE under the lights agree that Pictures etc do not do them justice, strangely enough Yates Forearms and traps in Person @ that time were Frigging MASSIVE, Dence as hell and HUGE and of course his calves were everything u see in any pics etc....in alot of his pics you dont get the same insight with those bodyparts with the forearms and Traps, However Coleman's Arms, traps etc are what you see in the Pictures....Unbelievable .... same as Victor Richards in 1994... his Quads and arms were everything you see in Pictures Unbelievable and MASSIVE, some BBers Project More so in Person than they do in Pictures.... Yates and from what ive heard Haney seem to fit this ideal

BiGHer · « **Reply #43 on:** February 25, 2012, 10:07:39 PM »

I don't know where it is, but someone needs to post that picture of Ronnie standing next to the GNC employee. When you see this, you realize that he is just a monster. He's over 300 lbs and hard as a rock in that photo. It just puts things in perspective.

US MUSL · « **Reply #44 on:** February 25, 2012, 10:22:38 PM »

Picture definately don't do Yates justice, was probably the grainiest BB ever.

When Dorian was doing his posing routine in 93, doing this pose he spiked his foot so hard the entire stage rattled. He also blew his air out so hard it echoed throughout the auditorium.

johnny1 · « **Reply #45 on:** February 25, 2012, 11:21:58 PM »

Lee in 1986 and Coleman in 2006, when Coleman was alot lighter both Haney and him looked Very much alike in the Relaxed shot, when i first saw shots of Coleman when he got Really massive Re: 2003 on onwards.... always thought Haney would of looked almost identical if he had started his career @ the same time as coleman....with the exception of the arms

NotMrAverage · « **Reply #46 on:** February 26, 2012, 12:13:09 AM »

I started training in 95...back then people thought Yates and the other guys had 1 meter waistline, that all shape/tight abs were gone for the sake of mass, mass and more mass. Same shit people always have been saying. Those freaky hard delts shown in the Haney pics are insane! Big change is in the GH and slin ofcourse...add in more and more SEO...the pics shows were in heads you: larger legs, less details in upper body esp and blockier waist. Whats better you descide...

Figo · « **Reply #47 on:** February 26, 2012, 03:14:32 AM »

Quote from: US MUSL on February 25, 2012, 09:54:03 PM

Flex Wheeler and Nasser were also guest posers, not even close to Big Ron.

Please elaborate on this, was ronnie far, far superior to nasser?

Figo · « **Reply #48 on:** February 26, 2012, 03:18:32 AM »

Quote from: johnny1 on February 25, 2012, 09:09:04 PM

Mass with lines @ the Olympia 1987

Haneys waist and thigh measurements were very close

That 87 pic illustrates this

GettingBig · « **Reply #49 on:** February 26, 2012, 03:20:24 AM »

Quote from: aesthetics on February 25, 2012, 09:23:38 PM

no one was ever better than ronnie in his prime. no one

I agree and so Lee winning 8x mr.o

All Mr.O's accomplished what they wanted.

Respect and let us see what coming next.