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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2012, 05:35:22 PM »
What I find interesting is that instead of going after clear examples of waste in the DOD budget, they're going after the livelihood of troops. Sounds to me like all of the hotshot defense contractors (read: Military-Industrial Complex) are much more important than American kids putting their lives on the line.
Indeed, thats the way it feels to the troops as well.
But thats the way it is, politics are all about money and power, so the guy with the least gets fucked. Which would be the average troops.

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2012, 05:37:27 PM »
Things would be different if the troops were allowed to unionize though... but that would probably also mark an end to all wars. LOL.

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2012, 09:10:46 AM »

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2012, 09:13:49 AM »
Obama to Force Military Into ObamaCare Exchanges and Slash Healthcare Benefits

by Wynton Hall


http://biggovernment.com/whall/2012/02/28/obama-to-force-military-into-obamacare-exchanges-and-slash-healthcare-benefits




The Obama Administration plans to force active duty service members and veterans off the military’s current health care plan, Tricare, and into ObamaCare’s state-run healthcare exchanges by increasing Tricare premiums between 30 percent to 78 percent the first year and a crushing 94 percent to 345 percent every five years thereafter.



Obama’s plan, which is sparking a major controversy within the Pentagon, is set to go into effect after the 2012 presidential election and will not apply to unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits.

The Washington Free Beacon’s Bill Gertz reports that, “According to congressional assessments, a retired Army colonel with a family currently paying $460 a year for health care will pay $2,048,” thereby all but guaranteeing service members and vets will be forced to enter ObamaCare.

Sources close to the controversy fear the radical healthcare restructuring will significantly hurt military recruitment:

“We shouldn’t ask our military to pay our bills when we aren’t willing to impose a similar hardship on the rest of the population,” Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee and a Republican from California, said in a statement to the Washington Free Beacon. “We can’t keep asking those who have given so much to give that much more.”

The 2.1 million-member Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) are vowing to fight the Obama Administration’s proposed healthcare scheme:


“A secure America needs a strong military,” he said, “and whether one serves honorably for four years or 40, messing with military pay and benefits is a clear signal to the troops and their families that the budget is more important than people. That is going to seriously hurt recruiting and retention, and potentially end the all-volunteer force, because nobody wants to work for an ungrateful employer in a vocation as inherently dangerous as ours.”

The move by the Obama Administration comes on the heels of announcing it plans to gut $487 billion in Pentagon spending.

By squeezing service members and veterans out of Tricare and into ObamaCare through significantly higher Tricare premiums, the Obama Administration believes it can pinch $1.8 billion from Tricare in fiscal 2013 and $12.9 billion by 2017.

By comparison, Mr. Obama spent $20.5 billion on his Department of Energy green energy grants and loans program, 80 percent of which went to companies owned or tied to Mr. Obama’s top fundraisers.

Congressional hearings on the ObamaCare military restructuring begin next month.



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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2012, 09:24:36 AM »
Obama Pushing ObamaCare on Troops, Forcing Them to Pay at Least Triple for Care
Katie Pavlich
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Feb 28, 2012 07:55 AM




President Obama has already gutted the Army in favor of out of control entitlement programs and now, he's going after military medical benefits in order to get more people on his ObamaCare rolls. In Obama's latest budget, military families will be forced to pay substantially more for medical care through the military while civilian defense union workers will continue receiving the same benefits.

The Obama administration’s proposed defense budget calls for military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits untouched. The proposal is causing a major rift within the Pentagon, according to U.S. officials. Several congressional aides suggested the move is designed to increase the enrollment in Obamacare’s state-run insurance exchanges.

The disparity in treatment between civilian and uniformed personnel is causing a backlash within the military that could undermine recruitment and retention.

The proposed increases in health care payments by service members, which must be approved by Congress, are part of the Pentagon’s $487 billion cut in spending. It seeks to save $1.8 billion from the Tricare medical system in the fiscal 2013 budget, and $12.9 billion by 2017.

It seems as if Obama is trying to make joining the military so unenjoyable in order to decrease sign up numbers. First, he reduces their force to a level his own defense secretary says is ridiculous and dangerous, which means military members are spread even thinner for deployments and other duties. Second, his budget would force military members to pay more for medical benefits than their civilian counterparts. Why be a soldier when you can be a defense worker?

The administration is also pushing for more expensive Tricare payments for military members in order to force them onto ObamaCare, just like they are doing with private insurance plans. It's all part of the move toward single payer healthcare.

Administration officials told Congress that one goal of the increased fees is to force military retirees to reduce their involvement in Tricare and eventually opt out of the program in favor of alternatives established by the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.

And just how much more will military have to pay?

Significantly, the plan calls for increases between 30 percent to 78 percent in Tricare annual premiums for the first year. After that, the plan will impose five-year increases ranging from 94 percent to 345 percent—more than 3 times current levels.

According to congressional assessments, a retired Army colonel with a family currently paying $460 a year for health care will pay $2,048.

The military disapproves of the push:

Military personnel from several of the armed services voiced their opposition to a means-tested tier system for Tricare, prompting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey to issue a statement Feb. 21.

Dempsey said the military is making tough choices in cutting defense spending. In addition to the $487 billion over 10 years, the Pentagon is facing automatic cuts that could push the total reductions to $1 trillion.

“I want those of you who serve and who have served to know that we’ve heard your concerns, in particular your concern about the tiered enrollment fee structure for Tricare in retirement,” Dempsey said. “You have our commitment that we will continue to review our health care system to make it as responsive, as affordable, and as equitable as possible.”

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2012, 09:57:51 AM »
Want to laugh - I have an obamabot on my facebook defending this treason.   

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2012, 10:14:26 AM »
Forcing military personel to buy into Obamacare - what a piece of fucking shit this guy is.
Healthcare is one of THE main perks to being in the military.

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2012, 02:54:28 PM »
"Significantly, the plan calls for increases between 30 percent to 78 percent in Tricare annual premiums for the first year. After that, the plan will impose five-year increases ranging from 94 percent to 345 percent—more than 3 times current levels."




That's fucked up.

But, I don't see a Republican House giving Barry what he wants.


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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2012, 03:17:04 PM »

Again - free cell phones to urban leeches - higher costs to soldiers. 

Free medical to illegals - higher costs to soldiers

Free handout for buying cars - higher costs to soldiers

$7000 bonus to GM hacks - higher costs to soldiers

Free college for selcted groups - higher costs for soldiers

BILLIONS to corrupt green companies and donors - higher costs to soldiers

No jail time for Corzine - court martial for Navy Seals



Got it yet?   





Waivers to union thugs of obamacare - higher costs to soldiers

Hundreds of Billions to Fannie and Freddy - higher costs to soldiers

17 taxpayer paid gaudy vacations by taxpayer dollars - higher costs to soldiers





 

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #36 on: February 29, 2012, 11:20:24 AM »
Obama Health-Care Hikes Hit Military, Spare Unions; Vets Vow to Fight
By: Kenric Ward | Posted: February 29, 2012 3:55 AM




Rep. Allen West, R-Plantation, President Barack Obama, and Rep. Tom Rooney, R-Tequesta HideFlorida congressmen and veterans' groups on Tuesday blasted an Obama administration plan to double or triple Tricare medical premiums for active-duty and retired military personnel.

The sharply higher prices reportedly are designed to push service members and veterans out of the military's Tricare program and into Obamacare's insurance exchanges. The administration believes the move will cut Tricare costs by $1.8 billion in fiscal 2013 and $12.9 billion by 2017.

According to one congressional estimate, a retired Army colonel with a family currently paying $460 a year for health coverage would pay $2,048 under the new price schedule.

The plan would take effect after the 2012 elections.

"It is unconscionable, utterly disrespectful and obviously evidences the disdain the Obama administration has for our warriors, to whom he should apologize," said Rep. Allen West, R-Plantation.

West, a retired Army colonel, added that the Obama plan -- which does not raise the rates on unionized civilian employees in the Defense Department -- is larded with politics.

"President Obama believes health care should be free for his union cronies and entitlement-centered political base, but not for those exceptional men and women who serve or have served to keep us free," West complained.

Rep. Tom Rooney, a member of the House Armed Services Committee, also assailed the initiative.

“I am deeply disturbed by President Obama's plan to drive Tricare premiums so high that military retirees are forced out of the health-care plans we promised them and into the new entitlement programs created by Obamacare," said Rooney, R-Tequesta.

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"Asking our troops and military retirees to shoulder the burden of Washington's overspending is simply wrong, and I will strongly oppose any effort by the president to break our commitments to our veterans by pricing them out of the health-care benefits they earned and deserve."

The 2.1 million-member Veterans of Foreign Wars, vowing to fight the Obama plan, issued this statement:

“A secure America needs a strong military, and whether one serves honorably for four years or 40, messing with military pay and benefits is a clear signal to the troops and their families that the budget is more important than people.

"That is going to seriously hurt recruiting and retention, and potentially end the all-volunteer force, because nobody wants to work for an ungrateful employer in a vocation as inherently dangerous as ours.”

On top of the premium increases, veterans would also be hit with a new annual fee for a program called Tricare for Life. And some benefits will become “means-tested," similar to social programs.

"This will be treating them like welfare instead of benefits for military service," said Bill Gertz, a national security affairs expert who broke the story on the Washington Free Beacon website.

John Hayward, a conservative commentator at Human Events, called the Obama plan "part of an overall strategy to dump as many Americans as possible into budget-blasting 'public exchanges,' which were already on course to cost at least $460 billion by 2019."

A Heritage Foundation study last year concluded that those costs could more than double if enough private-sector employers decide to wash their hands of Obamacare and shift their employees to the insurance exchanges.

"That study didn’t anticipate a tidal wave of military veterans sliding into the deficit pit," Hayward noted.

The administration's proposed budget would slash overall Pentagon spending by $487 billion.

The anticipated Tricare savings of $12.9 billion over five years represent a tiny sliver of the military's budget. Indeed, Gertz noted, it's even less than the $20.5 billion Obama's Department of Energy expended on green energy grants and loans, "80 percent of which went to companies owned or tied to Mr. Obama’s top fundraisers."

But for military personnel and veterans, the Tricare shuffle adds up to real money.

Obama's plan calls for increases between 30 percent and 78 percent in Tricare annual premiums for the first year. After that, the plan will impose five-year increases ranging from 94 percent to 345 percent -- more than three times current levels -- Gertz reported.

Retired Navy Capt. Kathryn M. Beasley, of the Military Officers Association of America, pledged a united front in fighting the proposed health-care increases, which would require congressional approval.

“We think it’s absolutely wrong,” she told the Free Beacon. “This is a breach of faith."



Contact Kenric Ward at kward@sunshinestatenews.com or at (772) 801-5341.


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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #37 on: February 29, 2012, 11:22:36 AM »
Obama Thanks Military for Service by Tripling Tricare Premiums
By Patricia Campion
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COMMENTARY | President Barack Obama began and ended his State of the Union address in January by heaping lavish praise upon the men and women of the military. He used words like "courage, selflessness and teamwork" to describe their ability to bravely accomplish each mission he set for them. The war in Iraq is over. Osama bin Laden is dead. Troops are coming home from Afghanistan. So now -- in a show of thanks -- the president wants to gradually triple their Tricare premiums.

Tricare, according to its website, "is the health care program serving Uniformed Service members, retirees and their families worldwide."

The administration's admitted objective to Congress, as reported by the Washington Free Beacon, is "to force military retirees to reduce their involvement in Tricare and eventually opt out of the program in favor of alternatives established by the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare."

Under the new plan, Tricare annual premiums will increase 30 percent to 78 percent in the first year. After that the plan more than triples the premium payment in five-year increases ranging from 94 percent to 345 percent.

Additionally, just as Obamacare limits civilians with pre-tax flexible spending accounts or health savings accounts to buying a "medicine or drug only if such medicine or drug" is doctor prescribed -- or pay a 40 percent tax -- the new plan for the military increases co-payments of active duty personnel for pharmaceuticals and eliminates incentives for using less expensive, over-the-counter and generic drugs.

Despite the fact national defense spending has drastically declined under Obama's watch -- an expense described by The Foundry's Mike Brownfield as "a core constitutional function of government" -- entitlement spending has more than tripled.

Where defense accounts for only 14 percent of national spending in fiscal year 2012, 70 percent of the budget went to pay for the housing, food, income, welfare, student aid for the 1 in 5 Americans who are dependent on some type of government assistance.

According to the Nov. 1 report by the Census Bureau, there were 21.8 million veterans in the U.S. As of Dec, 31 the Department of Defense reported 1,456,862 active duty military personnel.

While military moral is at an all-time low and support for Obama among their ranks has plummeted, the president's new proposed defense budget will only force military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their health care.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics there are 14.8 million union members in the U.S. With his union support faltering and with angry union leaders pressuring Obama and congressional Democrats to step up efforts to advance their interests, it's no great mystery why they will leave the benefits of unionized civilian defense workers unscathed.


"As commander-in-chief, I want every veteran to know that America will always honor your service and your sacrifice -- not just today, but every day," the president said in November. "And just as you fought for us, we're going to keep fighting for you -- for more jobs, for more security, for the opportunity to keep your families strong and America competitive in the 21st century."

Of course, he forgot to warn them he was about to kick their existing health care insurance plan so far out of reach that they'd be forced to grab the plan that 53 percent of Americans want repealed for survival.

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #38 on: February 29, 2012, 11:36:10 AM »
Ron Paul Issues Statement on Obama’s Proposed Tricare Cuts


http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/02/28/ron-paul-issues-statement-on-obama%E2%80%99s-proposed-tricare-cuts



“Failing to meet the promises we have made to our troops would be unjust and immoral”

LAKE JACKSON, Texas – 2012 Republican Presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul issued the following statement regarding the Obama administration’s latest proposal to seek cuts in Tricare benefits for veterans and active military. See comments below.

“As a Doctor, an Air Force Veteran, and Congressman, who serves on the Foreign Affairs Committee and has always fought for the best interest of our troops, I am appalled at President Obama’s disregard for the health and well-being of America’s military families and his continued fealty to union boss special interests.

“The Obama administration’s proposed defense budget would require military families and retirees to pay exceedingly more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits untouched. This is unacceptable.

“Our military men and women have fought bravely, and in exchange, our country made a promise to them that we must honor. There are trillions of dollars in unwise and unconstitutional spending we must cut. And there are few other leaders in Washington willing to cut spending as deeply as I am and truly balance our budget.  But we must make sure we take care of our veterans and military personnel who fight to take care of us.

“We have put our troops in harm’s way, and we must honor our promises. Our troops have paid a heavy price these past 10 years.  Over 5,000 have lost their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan, 40,000 have seen crushing injuries, and hundreds of thousands more suffer from brain injury and post-traumatic stress disorder.

“Failing to meet the promises we have made to our troops would be unjust and immoral.

“Instead of cutting our veterans’ benefits, President Obama should truly support our troops by bringing them home to protect our borders and defend our country. Re-unite them with their families and make sure they no longer play policeman in dangerous foreign civil wars. Cutting the benefits of our veterans while we subsidize the security of other wealthy nations like Germany and Japan and play ‘world policeman’ makes no sense.

“As a Congressman, I have taken very seriously my duty to ensure that our fighting men and women are well taken care of and given the respect, dignity, and appreciation they have earned. That is why I introduced H.R. 1092, the Military Retirees Health Care Protection Act, which prohibits the Department of Defense from increasing Tricare fees without congressional approval. I urge my fellow members of Congress, and the other GOP presidential candidates to support this action and support our troops.

“As President, I intend to keep the promises and commitments we have made as a nation to our troops, because they are the ones that sacrifice everything to keep us free.”

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #39 on: February 29, 2012, 07:49:26 PM »
Obama Slashes Soldiers’ Benefits to Pay Back Healthcare Industry Donors
by Kerry Patton

The Tea Party hit its stride in the summer of 2009 when concerned citizens showed up to town halls across the United States to protest the healthcare takeover law being considered in Congress. The people rightly felt that the bill’s labyrinthine and onerous regulations were corrupt and designed to increase the power of the government, line the pockets of shortsighted insurance companies, and squeeze as much blood from the country’s taxpayer turnip as possible.

Just when America believed the US government health scandal couldn’t get worse, President Obama’s handlers go one step further—increasing service members’ and veterans’ medical premiums. This move is designed to push service members and veterans to opt out of Tricare and find a new insurance provider.
President Obama’s new medical proposal seeks to save $1.8 billion from the Tricare medical system in the fiscal 2013 budget and $12.9 billion by 2017, the latter amount adding up to 0.99% of the $1.3 trillion deficit for a single year built into Obama’s proposed budget. To accomplish this spending reduction, service members should expect a 30% to 78% increase in Tricare annual premiums for the first year. In five years, service members will expect an increase ranging from 94% to 345%.
The average annual salary for a four year single enlistee is approximately $34k. If that service member were married with dependents, the salary increases to approximately $42k. Are those numbers enough to make any sane person want to enlist today, knowing they will likely ship off to some foreign land to fight a losing war like that in Afghanistan? Are those numbers enough to justify risking one’s life–enough to afford an increased medical premium that could be raised by 78% just this year or 345% by the time their initial enlistment is over?
Make no mistake; the President is downsizing our military, and this new military medical initiative is one sure way he will see volunteers leave the military knowing their benefits are jeopardized. At a time when Iran threatens the free world, Afghanistan’s violence is on a rise, and North Korea remains unstable, is now the time to play with our service members’ well-being?
President Obama has taken an unprecedented action, crippling the livelihoods of our most worthy federal employees–our troops. And it’s easy to see who’s pushing for this change–the very elements that pushed for Obamacare and the recent contraception scandal, the political donors who represent America’s health industry.
According to multiple open sources, in the 2008 presidential election, the healthcare industry gave big bucks to Obama’s campaign. Health care professionals donated an estimated $11,746,631, while hospitals donated $3,339,099, pharmaceutical companies donated $2,141,826, and HMOs donated $1,440,723. Attorneys specializing in medical malpractice reform, better known as Tort Reform, donated $43,154,642. Those attorneys hedged their bets knowing American health reform would come with a cost, a $54 billion cost over the next 10 years, according to the CBO.
Americans have every right to be appalled at the current economic dilemma today, but more so, they should be truly appalled at the way this President is treating our service members and our veterans. President Obama has sided with the American healthcare industry over our own defenders.
We all have a patriotic duty to protect this nation. One of those obligations is to support our service members past and present. Retired Navy Capt. Kathryn M. Beasley of the Military Officers Association of America, is diligently fighting this newly proposed Obama conundrum. She needs the American people’s assistance to fight this battle.

Our service members should never have to worry about their benefits, but today they do. They selflessly volunteer to place themselves in harm’s way believing in service before self. America must stand up for these warriors and vehemently oppose President Obama and his health industry puppet masters. They have finally crossed the line.

Kerry Patton, a combat service disabled veteran, is a senior analyst for WIKISTRAT and owner of IranWarMonitor.com. He has worked in South America, Africa, the Middle East, Asia, and Europe, focusing on intelligence and security and interviewing current and former terrorists, including members of the Taliban. He is the author of Sociocultural Intelligence: The New Discipline of Intelligence Studies and the children’s book American Patriotism. You can follow him on Facebook or at www.kerry-patton.com

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #40 on: February 29, 2012, 07:54:30 PM »
Dems vow: No more cuts for federal workers ("discrimination" against RAT voters)
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Posted on February 29, 2012 7:42:55 PM EST by Libloather

Dems vow: No more cuts for federal workers
By Mike Lillis - 02/29/12 07:21 PM ET

Leading Democrats charged Republicans this week with "discrimination" against federal workers amid Congress's struggle to cut deficit spending.

The Democrats said a series of federal pay cuts – most recently as part of the payroll-tax package – pile the deficit-reduction burden on one group of Americans while the rest of the country gets a free pass. The lawmakers – all of whom represent districts laden with federal workers – are vowing to oppose any future legislation that includes cuts in federal compensation.

"'Bureaucrats' is used as an epithet by too many [in Congress]. It is used as a pejorative," Rep. Steny Hoyer (Md.), the Democratic whip, said Wednesday during a Capitol Hill rally of the National Treasury Employees Union (NTEU). "We are the best civil service in the world … Unfortunately, we have too many people who don't respect those who give their service to the public."

Sen. Ben Cardin of Maryland said the fight over federal compensation is part of a much larger partisan war over the preservation of the middle-class. Cardin, who was a member of the payroll-tax conference committee, accused Republicans of wanting "to turn back the clock" on workers' rights.

"They want to take [us] back to the 19th century," Cardin said.

Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) suggested hundreds of NTEU members were "courageous" to visit the Capitol, which she characterized as "the scene of the crime against federal workers today."

"The Republicans have created a virtual piggybank containing your federal pay and your federal pensions – to be robbed at will," Norton charged. "We're here to say to Republicans, 'This piggybank is not yours.'"

As part of this month's bipartisan payroll-tax deal, GOP leaders insisted on a provision requiring federal employees hired after 2012 to contribute 3.1 percent of their annual salaries to their pensions — a 2.3-point jump over current levels. The provision is estimated to save roughly $15 billion over the next decade – money Congress tapped to offset an extension of emergency unemployment benefits through the end of the year.

An initial House-passed GOP bill would also have affected current federal workers, but push-back from Hoyer, Cardin and Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), another member of the payroll tax conference panel, caused GOP negotiators to scale back the provision.

The pension cuts come on the heels of a two-year freeze in federal pay, estimated to save taxpayers roughly $60 billion over a decade.

Advocates for federal workers say they're being singled out unfairly.

"The time has come for shared sacrifice, and we have already made our contribution," NTEU President Colleen Kelley said Wednesday. "These cuts need to stop."

Cardin noted that President George W. Bush inherited a projected budget surplus in 2001 and turned it into a $1.2 trillion projected deficit eight years later – largely the result of unpaid wars and unfunded tax cuts.

"It was not the federal workers who caused this deficit," Cardin said.

"Every time we need to find money to solve our problems, they keep coming back to you," echoed Rep. John Sarbanes (D-Md.). "It's almost like going out to dinner with a group of friends and you're always being asked to pick up the check."

Fueling the debate, a January study from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) found that federal employees, on average, are paid roughly 2 percent more than comparable private-sector workers – a figure that jumps to 16 percent when health and other benefits are considered.

Republicans pounced, using the report to support their federal compensation cuts.

"While millions of Americans continue to struggle with stagnant wages and high unemployment, government bureaucrats in Washington continue to enjoy significant advantages over those whose tax dollars finance their compensation," Rep. Paul Ryan, (R-Wis.), chairman of the House Budget Committee, said in response to the CBO report.

The Democrats on Wednesday defended the pay discrepancy. The problem is not that federal workers are overcompensated, they said, but that too many private-sector employees are denied fair wages and benefits.

"We're trying to give them a living wage – how awful that is," Hoyer quipped.

"Let's correct what they're doing in the private sector," Cardin added, "[not] race to the bottom."

Virginia Democratic Reps. Jim Moran and Gerald Connolly also addressed the union crowd Wednesday.

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2012, 02:21:18 PM »
The War on Tricare
Panetta defends Tricare cuts as House leaders call them ‘another hit on the military’

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BY: Bill Gertz - March 1, 2012 5:00 am



 
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta on Wednesday defended the Pentagon’s plan to increase healthcare fees for military personnel as a senior House Republican called the increases another Obama administration “hit” on the military.

“On Tricare costs for health care, we have recommended increased fees,” Panetta said during a hearing of the House Budget Committee.

“We have not increased those fee levels since 1990,” he said. “We’ve looked at … the retirement area with the proviso that we grand-father those benefits so that those that are serving will not lose the benefits that were promised to them, but at the same time try to look at what reforms can be made on retirement for the future.”

Military pay will not be cut and pay raises are planned for the next two years but limited in later years, he said.

“That’s the package that we’ve presented,” Panetta said. “This has not been easy. This is a tough and challenging responsibility.”

The chairman of the House Armed Services Committee on Wednesday criticized the Obama administration’s plan to cut healthcare benefits for both active duty and retired military service members.

Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon (R., CA) said some healthcare costs for military retirees will be raised 345 percent over the next several years and will include “means-tested” increases based on pay at retirement.

“It is just another hit on the military,” McKeon said on Fox News, commenting on a report published Tuesday in the Washington Free Beacon.

“You know, the military accounts for 20 percent of our overall budget, but 50 percent of the savings have come out of defense, and these people that have given so much for us … why are they to be singled out?” McKeon asked.

He also noted that civilian defense employees are not being hit with these same increases and are not being means-tested to gauge whether they can pay more.

McKeon said the military health care increases are a “fairness issue.”

“I don’t know why we just keep trying to solve our financial problems on the back of the military,” he said. “If we keep doing that, who will have our backs the next time we get attacked?”

The fiscal 2013 defense budget submitted to Congress calls for increasing the cost of pharmaceuticals for families of active duty military and for sharp increases in premiums for military retirees.

The objective is to save $1.8 billion from the Tricare medical system this year and $12.9 billion by 2017.

Critics of the cuts, including Republicans in Congress and military service organizations, say the fee increases violate promises made to military personnel for their service to the country.

Congress must approve the increases.

The cuts are part of the Pentagon’s program to cut $487 billion from defense spending over the next 10 years. An additional cut of nearly $600 billion is also looming as a result of recent budget control legislation.

If the cuts are approved, the increases will be tiered by rank at retirement. Air Force Gen. Norton Schwartz, the service chief of staff, said during a hearing Tuesday that these tiers were necessary to make the increases fair.

“It was a recognition … that there were those among our alumni who were less able to accommodate the increases in the fees than others,” Schwartz said. “And so this simply was, in my view, a recognition of reality in that enlisted retirees were certainly not as capable of absorbing these costs as retired flag officers.”

Jo Ann Rooney, acting undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, was asked during a hearing of the House Armed Services personnel subcommittee on Wednesday why cost increases were limited to military retirees and not civilians.

Rooney said civilians are not part of Tricare. “So we are proposing those increases in the Tricare system which impacts the particular increases, those that are retired of working age as well as those that are over 65,” Rooney said. “There are two very, very different systems first off. So we’re just focusing in this particular on those costs with a program that is administered within the Department of Defense.”

Tricare Director Jonathan Woodson said during the hearing that civilian government employees currently pay more for health care than retired military personnel.

The administration has said the increases are targeted at so-called “working” retirees under the age of 65.

After the cuts were reported in the Free Beacon on Tuesday, numerous active-duty military, both officers and enlisted troops, criticized the plan as a breach of faith for those who signed up to join the military.

Rep. Adam Smith (D., WA), ranking member on the Armed Services Committee who also appeared on Fox on Wednesday, defended the healthcare cuts and denied that the Pentagon was forcing military retirees to join President Obama’s health care program, dubbed Obamacare, by upping rates.

“We’re maintaining Tricare; we want them in Tricare,” Smith said.

However, during a recent briefing, a Republican congressional aide revealed that the administration said the increases were aimed at trying to reduce the number of people receiving Tricare benefits and to switch to other health plans.

“They did tell us that part of the savings comes from beneficiaries using their healthcare benefits less because of higher fees,” said the aide. “Raising fees in Tricare may incentivize the retirees to use a different health care provider.”

Under Obamacare, beginning in 2014 a federally financed health care entitlement will subsidize premiums for low and moderate income Americans. The amount paid will be pegged to family income and administered through state-based “exchanges” that will replace current small group and individual health insurers.

Administration officials briefed House members recently that military retirees will be eligible for the exchanges, the aide said.

 


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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
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Veterans and troops set to lose health benefits under Obama's budget: Increases up to 345%!
The Londaon Daily Mail ^ | February 28, 2012 | Meghan Keneally
Posted on March 4, 2012 6:30:11 PM EST by 2ndDivisionVet

Concern is sinking in over the long-term effects of President Barack Obama's proposed budget cuts to military health care spending.

Critics say that by taking aim at the military health care program by adding additional fees and increasing required payments, the President is dishonoring troops and hurting the military's recruiting power.

The budget put forth by Mr Obama- which still needs to be approved by Congress before being enacted- would create $487billion in cuts over the next 10 years.

One of the biggest areas of contention is the increases of health care fees that specifically target military retirees by boosting their co-pay charges and deductibles.

Some reports cite unidentified administration officials as saying that they hope that the increases would put pressure on the retirees to opt out of their veterans benefits and sign up for the program put in place by President Obama's controversial Affordable Care Act which was approved in 2010.

'Would you stay with a car insurance company that raised your premiums by 345 per cent in five years? Probably not,' an unidentified congressional aide told Fox News, hinting that their plan to get veterans to sign up with other insurers would work....

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2012, 05:15:28 AM »

Again - free cell phones to urban leeches - higher costs to soldiers. 

Free medical to illegals - higher costs to soldiers

Free handout for buying cars - higher costs to soldiers

$7000 bonus to GM hacks - higher costs to soldiers

Free college for selcted groups - higher costs for soldiers

BILLIONS to corrupt green companies and donors - higher costs to soldiers

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
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« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2012, 05:51:18 AM »
Thank you for bumping this 3333.  This is important. 

Do you understand now why i reacted the way i did in that other thread? 

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
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Thousands Of Veterans Are About To Get Laid Off, And They're Not Happy About Their Job Prospects
TBI ^ | 3-10-2012 | Chad Brooks
Posted on March 10, 2012 7:38:55 PM EST by blam

Thousands Of Veterans Are About To Get Laid Off, And They're Not Happy About Their Job Prospects

Chad Brooks, BusinessNewsDaily
Mar. 10, 2012

With plans on the table to cut thousands of military jobs in the coming months, new research shows the servicemen and women who could be forced out aren't optimistic about their prospects for future employment.

A study by military family financial consultant First Command Financialrevealed that 70 percent of middle-class military families are not very confident about civilian employment opportunities for veterans. Just 25 percent of those surveyed believe there will be sufficient jobs in the civilian work force for unemployed veterans.

While the government is attempting to help, military members are not encouraged by its solutions, which include enacting the VOW to Hire Heroes Act, a new law providing employers with tax credits for hiring out-of-work veterans.

"These anemic confidence levels underscore the high unemployment rates we have seen among veterans today as well as proposed plans for defense cutbacks and downsizing tomorrow," said Scott Spiker, CEO of First Command Financial Services. "When active-duty service members see highly trained and tested veterans struggling to find meaningful work, they are justifiably worried about the thousands of vets who will be entering the civilian work force in the next few years."

In addition to concerns for out-of-work veterans, many surveyed service members — nearly 40 percent — say they’re nervous about their own career in the military. Their top concerns include downsizing of the armed forces, pay and benefits cutbacks and overall job security.

The study was based on surveys of 530 active-duty U.S. military members.

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2012, 09:28:59 AM »
Thousands Of Veterans Are About To Get Laid Off, And They're Not Happy About Their Job Prospects
TBI ^ | 3-10-2012 | Chad Brooks
Posted on March 10, 2012 7:38:55 PM EST by blam

Thousands Of Veterans Are About To Get Laid Off, And They're Not Happy About Their Job Prospects

Chad Brooks, BusinessNewsDaily
Mar. 10, 2012

With plans on the table to cut thousands of military jobs in the coming months, new research shows the servicemen and women who could be forced out aren't optimistic about their prospects for future employment.

A study by military family financial consultant First Command Financialrevealed that 70 percent of middle-class military families are not very confident about civilian employment opportunities for veterans. Just 25 percent of those surveyed believe there will be sufficient jobs in the civilian work force for unemployed veterans.

While the government is attempting to help, military members are not encouraged by its solutions, which include enacting the VOW to Hire Heroes Act, a new law providing employers with tax credits for hiring out-of-work veterans.

"These anemic confidence levels underscore the high unemployment rates we have seen among veterans today as well as proposed plans for defense cutbacks and downsizing tomorrow," said Scott Spiker, CEO of First Command Financial Services. "When active-duty service members see highly trained and tested veterans struggling to find meaningful work, they are justifiably worried about the thousands of vets who will be entering the civilian work force in the next few years."

In addition to concerns for out-of-work veterans, many surveyed service members — nearly 40 percent — say they’re nervous about their own career in the military. Their top concerns include downsizing of the armed forces, pay and benefits cutbacks and overall job security.

The study was based on surveys of 530 active-duty U.S. military members.

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Like I said, people look @ cutting military like its somehow cutting government costs, when really all it winds up doing is hurting things by jacking up the unemployement rate, as those military cuts are actually JOBS, not the kinds of cuts that are needed.

But for some reason civilians dont think of military spending as jobs, they just see tanks and carriers, bombs and rifles.

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Re: Obama proposes fee hikes to military members for healthcare.
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2012, 09:31:50 AM »
ObamaCare - 16,000 IRS Agents     - Military gets slashed 

Billions to corrupt solar companies  - Military gets cut 

Billions overseas to the PLO, Egypt,  - Military gets cut

Trillions to bankers - Military gets cut 

Hundreds of billions to Fannie and Freddy - Military get cut 




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