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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2012, 06:01:40 PM »
Wasn't Spinks a glorified cruiserweight?


He beat Holmes twice, close fights. Unbeaten going in to Tyson fight, seen as Tyson's biggest test, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

He was steered at heavyweight to be fair, but it's a legit win over an ATG.
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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2012, 06:04:50 PM »
Ribalta.......had a lotta` fucking heart to take that kind of punishment and still hang in.
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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2012, 11:50:06 PM »
He could still give the current top heavys a run for their money from the looks of that.
Many say Ali was the greatest boxer of all time, but for me Tyson in his prime was a machine.

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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2012, 12:03:12 AM »
He could still give the current top heavys a run for their money from the looks of that.
Many say Ali was the greatest boxer of all time, but for me Tyson in his prime was a machine.

Tyson's big issues happen after the 6th rd when he couldn't get iron chin guys out early like Holyfield.  The theory holds the same that Ali would push the fight late like he did against Forman.  And I think it's safe to say that Ali's chin for his generation of fighters was better than Ribalta's and equally as solid as Holyfield's.  Ali for the win against Tyson.

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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2012, 12:21:09 AM »
Tyson's big issues happen after the 6th rd when he couldn't get iron chin guys out early like Holyfield.  The theory holds the same that Ali would push the fight late like he did against Forman.  And I think it's safe to say that Ali's chin for his generation of fighters was better than Ribalta's and equally as solid as Holyfield's.  Ali for the win against Tyson.

Fair comment, we will never know that one, either way they where the best two boxers to walk to planet

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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2012, 01:20:21 AM »
What is he going to do with his boxing skills when I put him on his back?

You move in for one of your take downs, he lands a lightning fast right to your temple, you die.

Simple.

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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2012, 01:40:44 AM »
Tyson's big issues happen after the 6th rd when he couldn't get iron chin guys out early like Holyfield.  The theory holds the same that Ali would push the fight late like he did against Forman.  And I think it's safe to say that Ali's chin for his generation of fighters was better than Ribalta's and equally as solid as Holyfield's.  Ali for the win against Tyson.

You are lumping in post prison Tyson with pre-prison Tyson.  Very different animals.

Ali beats post-prison Tyson.  Prime Tyson, I don't think so.  My opinion.
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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2012, 01:52:32 AM »

God damn that shot has Broken jaw all over it, i recall that fight and if memory serves right that crazy SOB got STRAIGHT back up...for more and MORE punishment...Like alot on this board i grew up when Tyson was in his Prime (back when you could watch it FREE live on NZ tv1 back in the 80s) i recall the Tyrell Briggs fight....absolutely punished him round after round....after round til he knocked him the fuck out...and Larry Holmes although long past his Best @ the time (1988) Holmes was a Proud Champion and went out swinging, i recall in the Pre-fight Conference Tyson said "Im going to beat the old man up" Holmes @ the time was 38 and already a Grandfather replyed back...."im the one going down in History" not Mike Tyson....He will go down as a SOB...."if he do (mike) happen to win the fight....down the Line he will DESTROY HIMSELF...............I recall laughing @ the time saying WTF is this "oldman" on about.........LOL :o :o :o

Tyson fighting a Prime Holmes (1978-81) would have IMO had his Toughest Challenge of all when still Tyson was @ his peak, Holmes IMO would be the One NOT Ali to Potentially Beat a Prime Tyson....Maybe...


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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2012, 01:55:58 AM »
Tyson was quicker with his hits than any MMA fighter I've seen...I mean his combos were nasty...
I feel sorry for any dude in the club or on the street who mistakenly tangles with Mike...that is one dad you don't want a piece of

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« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2012, 02:14:56 AM »


Holy Shit!!!!  Mike fucked him up. 
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« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2012, 02:34:03 AM »

Tyson fighting a Prime Holmes (1978-81) would have IMO had his Toughest Challenge of all when still Tyson was @ his peak, Holmes IMO would be the One NOT Ali to Potentially Beat a Prime Tyson....Maybe...



Prime Holmes was a very technical fighter and also very athletic. He could take a punch (remember his fights against Ernie Shavers). So I tend to agree with that assessment. But still people will keep on wondering forever what an Ali/Tyson fight would have been like. First, because no matter how great Tyson was in his prime, he didn't face the same opposition Ali faced. But on the other side, if Tyson was pretty similar to another great HW, it wasn't Foreman but Frazier (short with the ability to get low, terrible hooks at close range). And we all know how those Ali/Frazier fights went. Tyson though more powerful and even faster than Frazier but didn't have Frazier's condition. So it would have been a matter of how long the fight would have gone probably.

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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2012, 02:36:15 AM »
Speed kills.  Prime Tyson hit hard and was way faster than Frazier. 
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« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2012, 02:49:53 AM »
Yes.
boxing, Fedor against Tyson, both in their prime.  Hypothetical... Tyson destroys Fedor in less than 2 minutes.  That's a fucking no shit no argument.

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« Reply #63 on: March 02, 2012, 03:18:40 AM »
Prime Holmes was a very technical fighter and also very athletic. He could take a punch (remember his fights against Ernie Shavers). So I tend to agree with that assessment. But still people will keep on wondering forever what an Ali/Tyson fight would have been like. First, because no matter how great Tyson was in his prime, he didn't face the same opposition Ali faced. But on the other side, if Tyson was pretty similar to another great HW, it wasn't Foreman but Frazier (short with the ability to get low, terrible hooks at close range). And we all know how those Ali/Frazier fights went. Tyson though more powerful and even faster than Frazier but didn't have Frazier's condition. So it would have been a matter of how long the fight would have gone probably.
Joe Frazier was a Great Champion one of my Favorite Fighters, to be fair Joe had Better stamina, Left hook was one of the best ever and Def (IMO) had more heart than Tyson and was as Proud a Champion as any b4 him or after him....Tyson IMO had More Tools than Joe Frazier...Devastating Right hand...Right and Left hook...Devastating.... Body-shots....Devastating....awesome uppercuts, and had Faster hand speed and Foot-speed than Joe, but the Main Difference between the 2 if both in there Primes would be Defense....

Thats what separated IMO Tyson from MOST the great Champions Before and after him....Defense...back in the 1980s when a Challenger actually managed to Hit Tyson.....it was a Big Deal....like when Tucker lifted tyson off both feet with that uppercut from hell...Tyson just smiled @ him and came forward more....Point is it was Very Difficult to actually nail Tyson Hard with more than one Punch in the 1980s Tyson would have IMO No trouble hitting Joe or 99% of the HW Greats Ali included he would of gotten to Ali ALOT faster than Joe with both Foot-speed and Hand-speed and all the other tools just Mentioned..... but again Guys like Joe and Ali had that MENTAL STRENGTH that Tyson didnt have on their level so that MAY HAVE been a factor....Thats why ive always beleived and said Holmes....He had a Very Tight Defense @ his Peak along with the other tools and he also had that old school mental strength....as in he would never quit....or never give up til the absolute end....as in Knocked out Completely.... the last Great HW in my view to have that Mindset was Evander Holyfeild.

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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2012, 04:30:42 AM »
Still got the moves

My thoughts exactly! Didn't think he was still able to move like that.

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« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2012, 07:10:37 AM »
My thoughts exactly! Didn't think he was still able to move like that.

That Lower back. Guy finally had some time away for that to heal. The upper body and head movement in that video is more than he actually moved about 2 fights before he even fought lennox lewis.

 Haven't seen movement like this from him since as far back as the him vs holyfield days.

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« Reply #66 on: March 02, 2012, 08:10:46 AM »
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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #67 on: March 02, 2012, 11:07:33 AM »
I am a blue belt in BJJ and I would take him down and choke him out, simple as that.
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« Reply #68 on: March 02, 2012, 04:31:15 PM »
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to be fair i had tyson winning the second fight till holyfield head butted tyson.... and cut him
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« Reply #69 on: March 02, 2012, 04:33:19 PM »
I think Tyson would of had big problems George Foreman though. He has that granite chin and you can't bully that guy. He doesn't fear anyone.

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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2012, 03:22:00 PM »
Why do people think old Foreman beats Tyson?? Old Foreman lost to Tommy Morrison and struggled wth the lkes of Crawford Grimsley and Axel Schulz for Gods sake

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Re: Retired MIKE TYSON fighting sparring in 2010 (Video)
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2012, 03:25:22 PM »
Why do people think old Foreman beats Tyson?? Old Foreman lost to Tommy Morrison and struggled wth the lkes of Crawford Grimsley and Axel Schulz for Gods sake


Old Foreman would get speed blitzed by Tyson. Old Foreman feasted on cans and got outboxedby guys like Schulz and Morrison.

Young Foreman has a high chance of pushing Tyson around and really causing damage at mid range with uppercuts.
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« Reply #72 on: March 05, 2012, 03:51:51 PM »
Why do people think old Foreman beats Tyson?? Old Foreman lost to Tommy Morrison and struggled wth the lkes of Crawford Grimsley and Axel Schulz for Gods sake

The guy could take a hit to the head with a sludge hammer. Tyson preyed on people who feared him. Foreman would never be afraid of him.

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« Reply #73 on: March 05, 2012, 10:54:57 PM »
Tyson preyed on people who feared him.

That's the narrative that Teddy Atlas and douchebag sports reporters have been passing off as the truth the last 15 years.  They have an axe to grind with Tyson and they have been trying to find a way to diminish his career.  Prime Tyson preyed on anyone he damn well pleased to devastating effect. 
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« Reply #74 on: March 06, 2012, 04:51:48 AM »
That's the narrative that Teddy Atlas and douchebag sports reporters have been passing off as the truth the last 15 years.  They have an axe to grind with Tyson and they have been trying to find a way to diminish his career.  Prime Tyson preyed on anyone he damn well pleased to devastating effect. 

No everyone just randomly feared him, Career fighters who grew up on the streets, years of pro experience, found his haircut intimidating ::)
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