best stack for visible mass

[tbombz]

sounds like we have about the same amount of muscle mass no sleep... except ive got an extra 50lbs of fat on top of it    maybe one day we will see each other a pro stage 

[Swlabr]

nosleep is one of the best guys on here, hands down. Very helpful and his stats are truly impressive.

[flinstones1]

weight is very, very deceiving....Nosleep do you have a big bone structure? stocky naturally heavy on the scale guy?  200 5% is fucking huge dude, Jesus christ what the fuck are you running son?  I would be rocking 19 inch arms at those numbers If I dieted down to 5% I doubt I would be 195 even,  I met makaveli25 today in person for the first time  he can tell you  what I look like in person lol... I'm a fairly thick dude:D    

[flinstones1]

sounds like we have about the same amount of muscle mass no sleep... except ive got an extra 50lbs of fat on top of it    maybe one day we will see each other a pro stage 

that's bullshit, he could have more mass than you or you could have more mass than him for all you know.  You can't take two guys who are 5'10 at 250 6% and think they will look the same. Bone structure, frame, head size, etc can make a huge difference on the scale. If I competed at 220 I would be a fucking pro, cause I have no skeleton. You on the other hand would probably need to weight 250 or so.

[Borracho]

that's bullshit, he could have more mass than you or you could have more mass than him for all you know.  You can't take two guys who are 5'10 at 250 6% and think they will look the same. Bone structure, frame, head size, etc can make a huge difference on the scale. If I competed at 220 I would be a fucking pro, cause I have no skeleton. You on the other hand would probably need to weight 250 or so.

I agree with you in that weight means fuck all. I'm all for giving tbombo shit but he did say he had 50 pounds of fat on nosleep bro...I think we can let this one slide. 

[flinstones1]

I agree with you in that weight means fuck all. I'm all for giving tbombo shit but he did say he had 50 pounds of fat on nosleep bro...I think we can let this one slide. 

honestly I have no idea what tbombz looks like brother. His head is too big to judge, if I was in california I would love to meet the guy in person and if he is as big as he says he is I will be the first to shut everyone up. I think he is telling the truth personally, some guys just don't photo well. He probably is a huge fucken guy in real life, IMO

[flinstones1]

nosleep is one of the best guys on here, hands down. Very helpful and his stats are truly impressive.

 I met makaveli25 the getbigger in person today, he is a big dude as well.

[Borracho]

honestly I have no idea what tbombz looks like brother. His head is too big to judge, if I was in california I would love to meet the guy in person and if he is as big as he says he is I will be the first to shut everyone up. I think he is telling the truth personally, some guys just don't photo well. He probably is a huge fucken guy in real life, IMO

You're onto something. It really is hard to judge someone by pictures imo. We see pics from pros on here and they look great but irl we'd probably be blown away. Having said that, many of us think that tbombo is a little delusional when it comes to his physique. Most of us have bigorexia and are never big enough and lean enough but something tells me he's the other way. I'm sure he's made some great progress and probably looks better than me but I think most of us are never satisfied but for some reason he seems to be  


edit: I've been drinking today so this may or may not make any sense  

[flinstones1]

You're onto something. It really is hard to judge someone by pictures imo. We see pics from pros on here and they look great but irl we'd probably be blown away. Having said that, many of us think that tbombo is a little delusional when it comes to his physique. Most of us have bigorexia and are never big enough and lean enough but something tells me he's the other way. I'm sure he's made some great progress and probably looks better than me but I think most of us are never satisfied but for some reason he seems to be  


edit: I've been drinking today so this may or may not make any sense  

 taylor is just highly immature like that. You can see by the way he gets offended when someone tells him their bigger than him lol the dude gets all upset and goes "still bigger than you"     but he is a cool cat and I would like to meet him eventually, despite being a little bit "out there"

[Borracho]

taylor is just highly immature like that. You can see by the way he gets offended when someone tells him their bigger than him lol the dude gets all upset and goes "still bigger than you"    but he is a cool cat and I would like to meet him eventually, despite being a little bit "out there"

yeah... I'm sure we getbiggers would get along better than we would with normal regular people.  

We talk shit sometimes but irl I think we'd all be down  

[makaveli25]

nosleep is one of the best guys on here, hands down. Very helpful and his stats are truly impressive.

Plus one I love reading the guys posts. This board has really come together with some good people.

[makaveli25]

weight is very, very deceiving....Nosleep do you have a big bone structure? stocky naturally heavy on the scale guy?  200 5% is fucking huge dude, Jesus christ what the fuck are you running son?  I would be rocking 19 inch arms at those numbers If I dieted down to 5% I doubt I would be 195 even,  I met makaveli25 today in person for the first time  he can tell you  what I look like in person lol... I'm a fairly thick dude:D    

Flinstones is the biggest fucken 19 year old I've ever seen in my life and I mean that. Very very big thick dude! He could easily pass for mid 20's. A lot bigger than me and I'm 28 years old. Very impressed with flin. Real nice guy to.

[Swlabr]

Ever since gh15 the number of big 19 - 20 years olds has increased to the nth degree. I get asked all the time how old I am in the gym and when I tell them, jaws drop. Love it.

[makaveli25]

Ever since gh15 the number of big 19 - 20 years olds has increased to the nth degree. I get asked all the time how old I am in the gym and when I tell them, jaws drop. Love it.

That's when your natural gh is the highest and your still kind of going through changes. It's prob the best time to hit it hard and get the most results. Like I said when I saw flin I couldn't beleive he was only 19 years old.

[FAST LANE]

Flinstones is the biggest fucken 19 year old I've ever seen in my life and I mean that. Very very big thick dude! He could easily pass for mid 20's. A lot bigger than me and I'm 28 years old. Very impressed with flin. Real nice guy to.

That's good to hear, good job fellas!!

[Morsprincipium]

I think it's the tren bro   honestly  I have yet to try  tren yet, believe it or not.... but from what I have read Tren is the only compound that will allow you to gain muscle in a caloric deficit.

Tren decreases protein breakdown and excretion by a huge margin.  Essentially turning your caloric deficit into a caloric surplus

[flinstones1]

Tren decreases protein breakdown and excretion by a huge margin.  Essentially turning your caloric deficit into a caloric surplus

 so I was right!

take that Tbombz jk

[Swlabr]

Without tren I'd be 210 lbs at 12%, watery.

With tren I'm 210 lbs, 8%, veins everywhere. Try tren already, flinstones, I think you'll love it.

[BOW]

You're onto something. It really is hard to judge someone by pictures imo. We see pics from pros on here and they look great but irl we'd probably be blown away. Having said that, many of us think that tbombo is a little delusional when it comes to his physique. Most of us have bigorexia and are never big enough and lean enough but something tells me he's the other way. I'm sure he's made some great progress and probably looks better than me but I think most of us are never satisfied but for some reason he seems to be  


edit: I've been drinking today so this may or may not make any sense  

pros are smaller looking in real life than in pictures. Likewise most people are going to appear smaller than when u see their pics. Its kinda disappointing.

[flinstones1]

Tren decreases protein breakdown and excretion by a huge margin.  Essentially turning your caloric deficit into a caloric surplus

what are your thoughts on tren use in the offseason? Some gurus say it's Counterproductive, others say blast it at certain times, what's truth?

[Borracho]

pros are smaller looking in real life than in pictures. Likewise most people are going to appear smaller than when u see their pics. Its kinda disappointing.

I look smaller in pics 

[Overload]

pros are smaller looking in real life than in pictures. Likewise most people are going to appear smaller than when u see their pics. Its kinda disappointing.

This is true.

The few Pros i've met were not as large as i thought they would be, but they were all very short. The only tall Pro bodybuilder i have met was Ronnie, but i only got within about 20 feet of him. He was massive in person. Branch Warren looks tiny when you put him in with a group of people, he's just very small in structure.

One of the biggest guys i've ever trained with was 240 and about 6% BF, we took a few pics leading up to a show and he looked 190. I always look terrible in pictures, for bodybuilding you really need perfect lighting to showcase your body correctly.

[flinstones1]

except the freaks...I was talking to one guy when I was in Venice and he told me he saw Kevin  levrone at his biggest... I forgot one year exactly, and to quote "dude was unlike anything I  had ever seen, and I've seen them all"

[Overload]

except the freaks...I was talking to one guy when I was in Venice and he told me he saw Kevin  levrone at his biggest... I forgot one year exactly, and to quote "dude was unlike anything I  had ever seen, and I've seen them all"

Craig Titus had the biggest arms i think i've ever seen.

Kevin had that freak look to him for sure.

[SmoofCat]

Some guys like looking "beautiful" year round. Chiseled abs, sunken face tan and all. For me it seems misrable way to live. I'd rather bulk 9 months out of the year, get bloated, make impressive sizes and really enjoy some food and see what kind of weight I can move. It's also healthier, then having to run tren and halo all the time lol. Then come summertime diet down, tan a bit. I will say this though, I don't think anyone's face looks good at 5% bf unless you have a very small female like nose, which most men don't.... 8-10% is a good spot for the face IMO. Of course having a bloated face sucks...  tbombz I feel your pain

disagree. 8-10% is somewhere i never want to be again. 5% feels incredible, looks incredible. it is the sweet spot.