flame on, but..
he looks shitty enough to be natty in this pic. who cares if he weighs 280. look at him. like look. there is not a lot quality muscle there. its a lot of soft tissue that is giving the appearance of muscularity. his arms are soft tissue. in the pic with the 45 pound plate his delts are round and showing a tie in under load- they wouldnt look like that standing relaxed. look at his chest- there is no dense muscle there, or barely any kind of muscle for that matter. his traps and forearms do not have the density of someone who uses gear. you can see his bf level is pretty high around in/ around his torso as well.. if he trimmed off his baby fat and got to a respectable 7% or so, hed prolly only weigh 225-230 well within what someone of his height is capable of weighing. hes got a massive frame.
you guys can call bullshit all you want. i wouldnt have a hard time believing hes natty. and if you think he is you need to get out more. his old lady is juiced to the gills tho.
bro,
dude is 6'4 ... do you know how hard it is to fill out at that height?
dude has got some arms for a tall lanky dude... and with tall dudes pics are always deceiving... irl he would look much bigger...
and you see babyfat... i see test bloat....
also he has got fatboy genes... ie thick skin.... look at his highschool pic... his waist is as wide as his shoulder width...
he is not a tall athletic built dude.... he is tall and skinny fat naturally....
nobody in this cult who trains regularly is natural....maybe on a good day you will find a true natural if you look real , real hard...but he will not be looking like this... i can tell you...
this dude is juiced..... and uses a decent amount ....
oh and his wife is ugly.... imo though.....
but here on getbig the boyish look is very popular lately...makes one wonder....