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gh with insulin any timing needed.
« on: March 05, 2012, 06:54:35 PM »
So many diff answers what does gh 15 say or some of the big fellas on here. Or does it even matter.

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2012, 06:12:07 AM »
I've never seen gh15 comment on hgh/insulin timing unfortunately. Maybe he has but I didn't see it. However, what I see a lot of people do is take slin pre-workout (carb drink intra workout) and hgh immediately post workout, followed by another meal 15-20 minutes post hgh shot

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2012, 08:20:36 AM »
I've never seen gh15 comment on hgh/insulin timing unfortunately. Maybe he has but I didn't see it. However, what I see a lot of people do is take slin pre-workout (carb drink intra workout) and hgh immediately post workout, followed by another meal 15-20 minutes post hgh shot

Well plan was multiple times a day. I only seen him suggest insulin once and it was 30 iu three times a day.

So I'm confused with when to do gh if i should do it with all insulin shots to. Such as I have read insulin than ten or thirty mins later gh so they work together. Whole bunch of diff thoughts.

Also trying to time it around ghrp which has been so hard. Since u can't have slin or synthetic gh on you.

But that's figuring out my own meal timings that's my problem lol. But what u said makes sense so question is do I split up my gh with other slin shots. Always so much to think about.

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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2012, 09:03:18 AM »
So many diff answers what does gh 15 say or some of the big fellas on here. Or does it even matter.

Gh15 won't talk about it in specifics because someone could feasibly die from insulin, and it would be specifically disastrous for our sport cult if a kid happened to die from insulin and it was
Discovered he was reading up on it here.

He has however implied that the insulin use at the top and even amateur level is massive, as in every single meal upwards of 100 units

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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2012, 09:32:29 AM »
are you competitive bodybuilder?

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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2012, 10:26:09 AM »
are you competitive bodybuilder?

Have competed, am competing in NYC this month march 31. Not afraid to admit I have competed as a natural before when I was on hormones, and I won. At least I am man enough to admit that I was never a natural.

We all make mistakes and competing as a natural was one of mine. I was young and I had bad people in my ear.

I am 222 @ 5 .5 percent body fat right now on my cut for this contest, so I would definitely say I have my shit together. Realistically I might get on stage at 215. And I personally feel good about this because I have basically been hgh free for months and fully dependent on anabolics, diet and cardio because of it. Kigtropin scam actually showed me what I was made of. I decided I would NOT drop out of my contest because I was out of gh. But I had to bust my fuckin ass these last two months to stay this heavy and get this lean.

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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2012, 11:00:39 AM »
Gh15 won't talk about it in specifics because someone could feasibly die from insulin, and it would be specifically disastrous for our sport cult if a kid happened to die from insulin and it was
Discovered he was reading up on it here.

He has however implied that the insulin use at the top and even amateur level is massive, as in every single meal upwards of 100 units

Like i said I only seen him tell one person to use thirty iu three times day. I have used .25 few times a day . Personally didn't feel anything off ten iu like most start with and a lot think its shit till u use twenty or more.

I feel its healthier for us. Well being a bber . We eat way to much and put our pancreas under so much stress. 

Eating so much and so many meals. I mean its proven a calorie defict diet prolongation life. Were just not ment to put our organs under so much stress. So might as well help and give our pancreas a break.

There's a doctor who suggest insulin use to give the pancreas a break so i would belive short cycles of insulin or eod use to be healthier.

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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2012, 11:00:41 AM »
Have competed, am competing in NYC this month march 31. Not afraid to admit I have competed as a natural before when I was on hormones, and I won. At least I am man enough to admit that I was never a natural.

We all make mistakes and competing as a natural was one of mine. I was young and I had bad people in my ear.

I am 222 @ 5 .5 percent body fat right now on my cut for this contest, so I would definitely say I have my shit together. Realistically I might get on stage at 215. And I personally feel good about this because I have basically been hgh free for months and fully dependent on anabolics, diet and cardio because of it. Kigtropin scam actually showed me what I was made of. I decided I would NOT drop out of my contest because I was out of gh. But I had to bust my fuckin ass these last two months to stay this heavy and get this lean.
actually this question was not refer to you, to the guy who start this post, giving a slin advise to not knowing person stats putting this guy in the big risk especially
alot of young fellas on this bord reading this post, that's why gh15 dont wont to talk about slin

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2012, 11:08:57 AM »
actually this question was not refer to you, to the guy who start this post, giving a slin advise to not knowing person stats putting this guy in the big risk especially
alot of young fellas on this bord reading this post, that's why gh15 dont wont to talk about slin

Ah no. But I've used it I guess more than a few times. Only time I seen a reponse was my last use of it at 20 25 iu tho. Never once had a hypo scare. Can buy strips and glucose meters for five bucks here . So really its easy to play it safe.

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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2012, 11:15:59 AM »
Ah no. But I've used it I guess more than a few times. Only time I seen a reponse was my last use of it at 20 25 iu tho. Never once had a hypo scare. Can buy strips and glucose meters for five bucks here . So really its easy to play it safe.

what was the purposes u used slin, if you do not compete? What was your goal?

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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2012, 11:26:42 AM »
what was the purposes u used slin, if you do not compete? What was your goal?

To attain the physque I want of course. It's not as dangerous as most think and I beloved if Ur going to be eating six or eight big meals a day its much healthier for your body to add insulin to keep up the food. Your natural insulin production can not only keep up with as much carnal as we eat and being under constant use and stress . Not to mention all that extra sugar floating in the blood leading to worse problems. Gonna eat dangerous amounts I fully believe its helpful not harmful.

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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2012, 12:04:12 PM »
gh= whenever the fuck you feel like it

slin= if its fast acting, with meals. if its  24 hour, whenever the fuck you feel like it.

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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2012, 12:04:59 PM »
To attain the physque I want of course. It's not as dangerous as most think and I beloved if Ur going to be eating six or eight big meals a day its much healthier for your body to add insulin to keep up the food. Your natural insulin production can not only keep up with as much carnal as we eat and being under constant use and stress . Not to mention all that extra sugar floating in the blood leading to worse problems. Gonna eat dangerous amounts I fully believe its helpful not harmful.

it may not be dangerous for you, but as for other ppl who dont know how to use it and what type of slin to use, so as conclusion to this, yes you need to feed your body with carb you need fast acting slin and of course you must need hgh with it, also no one forcing you to eat six meals a day lol

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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2012, 12:37:18 PM »
it may not be dangerous for you, but as for other ppl who dont know how to use it and what type of slin to use, so as conclusion to this, yes you need to feed your body with carb you need fast acting slin and of course you must need hgh with it, also no one forcing you to eat six meals a day lol

No one is forcing me no. But to gain weight downing a liter of milk with a meal as a drink doesn't help with the amounts i need to eat. I'm tall. So I defonatly have a much higher metabolic requirement I mean I am over all a much bigger person. so I do need a good six huge meals. Not being forced but i need to .

I'm not sayig anyone should use slin. Just that I think its healthier for amount I eat.

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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2012, 12:44:59 PM »
its not healthier

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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2012, 12:53:27 PM »
its not healthier

Well all stuff I used only health problem I have over the yrs is from over eating and my intestines have took a beating lol. How is eating a two thousand calorie meal with hundreds of grams of carnal healthy. It's dangerous and using insulin to get that extra sugar out is healthier . Were not ment to eat that much or the other route eight meals a day. Why not give the pancreas a break. Even in simple terms it makes sense.

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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2012, 01:04:41 PM »
At 10 iu 3 times a day I literally had the shakes from slin.. I used it for about 2 weeks and I will never do it again. What the hell is the point? You can become a MONSTER on gh and anabolics. Why look like a you are made of sugar?

Do you guys really think kuclo looks good? I don't and I am not just saying that to "be a hater ".

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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2012, 01:14:29 PM »
At 10 iu 3 times a day I literally had the shakes from slin.. I used it for about 2 weeks and I will never do it again. What the hell is the point? You can become a MONSTER on gh and anabolics. Why look like a you are made of sugar?

Do you guys really think kuclo looks good? I don't and I am not just saying that to "be a hater ".

I like what gh 15 says. But he hasn't told us all of it specially about insulin.

Insulin has been around since 1922 and Tim belknap is first that majority know of that used insulin being diabetic. And he competed early eightys and worked put sevenitys. Tim did not have a gut. And infact was more ripped than anyone. Yet tim was not as big as today of course. Or even as big as some bbers back than. You think Tim knew the secret of insulin and was the only one doing it... Let's say he was u think he held onto it like a secret. Again no he told people he was diabetic so i know he was also bragging to other friend bbers etc. It doesn't all add up and can gaurentee bbers were using insulin regularly back than.

Think about it. Today something else is going on and i think it is gh abuse with insulin abuse maybe. Organs grow and they grow a lot ... Look how big something as small as a jaw and hands grow. U think of kidneys and liver is huge already.... Imagine Ur liver and intestines growing like Ur hands and jaw......... Think about and be honest with yourself.. tiny jaw growing ten times bigger. Picture Ur liver intestines and kidneys. Have u seen a fucking liver and kidneys there huge.

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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2012, 01:19:08 PM »
Gh when it first arrived was very limited. They would have to buy it by the bottle talking iu of one to two costing a grand more or less each. Insulin however was cheap and easily available. What's siffwrarnt from than to today. Gh is dirt cheap now like insulin. So they can now afford to abuse gh. Not just abuse slin but gh with it. so there organs or no doubt growing massively like there jaws and hands.

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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2012, 11:05:09 PM »
whats a good amount of slim to run with 2 iu's of gh ?

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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2012, 08:50:43 AM »
whats a good amount of slim to run with 2 iu's of gh ?


personally if gh was that low, I wouldn't bother with slin

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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2012, 09:31:36 AM »
whats a good amount of slim to run with 2 iu's of gh ?


I say worry more about how much slin per aas dosage.

 But as you take more steroids, the insulinase available for insulin will be lower and lower. Insulin will lose its anti-catabolic effect. As it will still bind some insulinase, the enzyme availability for steroids will not be optimal either. Anabolics will lose some of their potency. What is important to understand is that past a certain dose, anabolics will provide their own antidote against muscle growth. The only solution (besides using fewer steroids) is to increase insulinase level. At least two factors can accomplish this feat: The first one is insulin itself. The higher the insulin level is in a target organ (muscle for example) the higher the insulinase level will be. You would expect that the body would detect the shortage of insulinase for insulin and so produce more insulin (or more insulinase). Unfortunately, this does not seem to be the case. While insulinase is crucial for the anti-catabolic effect of insulin, it does not seem as important for glucose disposal.