its not about your health. we all take the same shit. i cant/ wont judge someone for what they use by playing the 'arent you worried about your health card' cause i use too. i wont use hypocrisy to get my point across.
im not concerned about what you pursue in life- i could give a fuck what you do, how financially set you are, how smart you are, all that other bullshit cause it has fuck all to do with you getting a pro card, and thats what my opinion is based on- your ability to be competitive. lol @ 'concern'. you wanted objectivity and you got it. i know you dont like it. i know you think with enough time and drugs and effort you'll get there- read what im writing below.
its not about your health. we all take the same shit. i cant/ wont judge someone for what they use by playing the 'arent you worried about your health card' cause i use too. i wont use hypocrisy to get my point across. its not about drug use, its not about money, income or health. forget all that shit. who gives a fuck where you have your 'eggs'? you think having 'your eggs' somehwere safe will help you get a card? 
what will determine how far you go is your god given genetics. you dont have the structure or shape to compete on a nats stage- dude- honestly- you think you could stand beside guys who like steve kucklo and ed nunn given time and dosage and not get washed out? fuck no. think you can stand beside guys like cedric mcmillian? do yourself a favour. look at the top 3 winners of the heavyweight/super heavyweight class at the NATS for the past 10 years. think you can stand beside those guys? then what the fuck have your 'eggs' got to do with anything? they have twos thing you'll never have no matter how much gh you take, no matter how hard you train, no matter how much willpower you have - they have shape and structure and at THAT LEVEL thats what separates the men from the boys, cause everybody is using the same compounds.
like you said its your life. i am brutal with the truth. but you need to hear it cause you've got some kind of pipe dream your chasing that you'll never achieve. and when you try to muddy the water with things that have fuck all to do with your pursuit, such as your accolades, money or education to try to defend your decision it fucking pisses me off. it has nothing to do with you getting a pro card.
heres an idea, instead of me telling you why you cant get one, why not tell me why you think you can, and leave all the other bullshit your spouted off about that has nothing to do with anything out of it. then we can have alogical discussion.
No one, I actually thought you offered an awesome opinion, and I had no intention up pissing you off.
I'm not saying I will be getting a pro card. Many things go into getting a pro card. I want to take my physiqe as far as I possibly can and see what i can do with it. That's why I was being clear that I won't regret anything if I don't get a pro card, but I would regret not trying. You're making it out that I should just give up, right here and now. Which if I did, I'd just be unhappy, so why do that?
Now, I am looking objectively at what you are saying, so to be fair, I took your advice. I went to MD and searched by NPC contests. I went to the IFBB North Americans as it was the first National show to pop up on that list and I looked at the top 3 from the years 2004 until now and yes, I believe that I could develop a better physique then some of those that I viewed. Some may disagree, but that's OK. You are all welcome to your opinion. I'm not wasting my life desperately chasing a "pipe dream" as you make it seem. I posted my photos initally and stated my goals for constructive feedback which your provided. However, simply saying "Hang it up bro, it's not happening" is not acceptable. You nor I can factually tell me where my development will be with (lets be reasonable) lets say 3-5 years of more consistancy of useage, training, etc. You nor I will ever be the deciding factor of whether or not I get a pro card either. I find it ironic that you can accept guys like Dan Hill and Peter Putnam having pro cards or Branch Warren Winning the Arnold, but then think it's crazy that someone with poor genetic structure could turn pro. 7 years ago, would you have thought Phil Heath would turn Mr. O one day?
Lastly, I think in general this board tends to immediately associate IFBB pro status with being an Olympia caliber bodybuilder. There is a huge difference between guys like Kuclo and other National winners. That caliber of bodybuilder comes around once maybe every 10 years?? Go to a low level pro show, like a small Europa show and look at the guy who places out of the top 10 and then tell me that it's not achievable to be an IFBB pro. IMO, most guys don't take it that far because they either don't have the means and opportunity to or simply life and outside influences and priorities get in the way.
No one, I meant every word of it when I said that I truly appreciate your feedback. I in no way meant to elicit a negative emotional response from you. I think you are a valuable member of this board and your 2 cc's is highly respected in any thread.
Lastly, why do I think I can turn pro:
- Good natural base
- Hard work ethic
- Financial means to consistantly use the products at the doses necessary to advance my physique
- I have strong body parts and weak bodyparts. If I can bring the weak ones up, I feel I will have a shot. Note: I say have a shot because in the end, it's up to the judges.
- I have support within the industry
Now, also keep in mind, that you are looking at a few off season photos taken in some shitty lighting. I'm not making excuses, but it's not a fact that people look different in real life. I know a few IFBB pro's personally who have taken the time to watch me go through turns and mandatories. They have all given me the nod of approval in the "potential" department and trust me, these are people I am comfortable with who aren't just blowing smoke up my ass. So why should I stop trying?? A couple of flaws that could potentially be worked through and a few negative critiques of my off season progress photos early in my career?? That hardly seems like enough reason enough to me to give up, which to be clear, not a single post on this thread has offered enough valid reason IMO for me to just call it quits, especially at this early stage in my career.
