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I guess i just became one of them too



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oh brother .... another Benny B life story in Africa...... i guess we should send in more US RANGERS to get killed like they did in Mogadishu



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This is more importabt to know than everything in this video.

If there is no way for corporations or the people behind the scenes to get rich, then they want nothing to do with it.

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This is more importabt to know than everything in this video.

If there is no way for corporations or the people behind the scenes to get rich, then they want nothing to do with it.
This, that's why nobody "big" really cared about Kony---or Africans, let some third world dictator with a God complex kill his people...that's what the "big" people think. Nobody cares about Africa unless they need something (Chinese).

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This, that's why nobody "big" really cared about Kony---or Africans, let some third world dictator with a God complex kill his people...that's what the "big" people think. Nobody cares about Africa unless they need something (Chinese).
Always defending Africa. Part of the "standard black guy package". Couldn't find Africa on a map, but always defending it.

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i hate these film directors who prance around with their cameras miles away from the real danger, and come back home to their lavish american lifestyle , and ask the US GOV to send american soldiers to risk their lives and family life to help their cause, because these pussies are too scared to take arms with the rebels and make a real change




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http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com.nyud.net/

For those asking what you can do to help, please link to visiblechildren.tumblr.c om wherever you see KONY 2012 posts. And tweet a link to this page to famous people on Twitter who are talking about KONY 2012!

I do not doubt for a second that those involved in KONY 2012 have great intentions, nor do I doubt for a second that Joseph Kony is a very evil man. But despite this, I’m strongly opposed to the KONY 2012 campaign.

KONY 2012 is the product of a group called Invisible Children, a controversial activist group and not-for-profit. They’ve released 11 films, most with an accompanying bracelet colour (KONY 2012 is fittingly red), all of which focus on Joseph Kony. When we buy merch from them, when we link to their video, when we put up posters linking to their website, we support the organization. I don’t think that’s a good thing, and I’m not alone.

Invisible Children has been condemned time and time again. As a registered not-for-profit, its finances are public. Last year, the organization spent $8,676,614. Only 32% went to direct services (page 6), with much of the rest going to staff salaries, travel and transport, and film production. This is far from ideal, and Charity Navigator rates their accountability 2/4 stars because they haven’t had their finances externally audited. But it goes way deeper than that.

The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission. These books each refer to the rape and sexual assault that are perennial issues with the UPDF, the military group Invisible Children is defending.

Still, the bulk of Invisible Children’s spending isn’t on supporting African militias, but on awareness and filmmaking. Which can be great, except that Foreign Affairs has claimed that Invisible Children (among others) “manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil.” He’s certainly evil, but exaggeration and manipulation to capture the public eye is unproductive, unprofessional and dishonest.

As Chris Blattman, a political scientist at Yale, writes on the topic of IC’s programming, “There’s also something inherently misleading, naive, maybe even dangerous, about the idea of rescuing children or saving of Africa. […] It hints uncomfortably of the White Man’s Burden. Worse, sometimes it does more than hint. The savior attitude is pervasive in advocacy, and it inevitably shapes programming. Usually misconceived programming.”

Still, Kony’s a bad guy, and he’s been around a while. Which is why the US has been involved in stopping him for years. U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) has sent multiple missions to capture or kill Kony over the years. And they’ve failed time and time again, each provoking a ferocious response and increased retaliative slaughter. The issue with taking out a man who uses a child army is that his bodyguards are children. Any effort to capture or kill him will almost certainly result in many children’s deaths, an impact that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Each attempt brings more retaliation. And yet Invisible Children supports military intervention. Kony has been involved in peace talks in the past, which have fallen through. But Invisible Children is now focusing on military intervention.

Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re supporting the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. If people know this and still support Invisible Children because they feel it’s the best solution based on their knowledge and research, I have no issue with that. But I don’t think most people are in that position, and that’s a problem.

Is awareness good? Yes. But these problems are highly complex, not one-dimensional and, frankly, aren’t of the nature that can be solved by postering, film-making and changing your Facebook profile picture, as hard as that is to swallow. Giving your money and public support to Invisible Children so they can spend it on supporting ill-advised violent intervention and movie #12 isn’t helping. Do I have a better answer? No, I don’t, but that doesn’t mean that you should support KONY 2012 just because it’s something. Something isn’t always better than nothing. Sometimes it’s worse.

If you want to write to your Member of Parliament or your Senator or the President or the Prime Minister, by all means, go ahead. If you want to post about Joseph Kony’s crimes on Facebook, go ahead. But let’s keep it about Joseph Kony, not KONY 2012.

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^This.

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What the hell is this? Several of my close friends already shared this on fb, along with many more indirect friends on fb. Most viral video ever?

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Re: Whats this Kony 2012 Bullshit everyone is spamming every site with....
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2012, 02:01:17 PM »
What the hell is this? Several of my close friends already shared this on fb, along with many more indirect friends on fb. Most viral video ever?


if you seen these movies, dont waste your time with short film... same ol africa story





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Re: Whats this Kony 2012 Bullshit everyone is spamming every site with....
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2012, 02:13:50 PM »
This video reeks of montage and fakeness, even though the underlying message is cute and sort of worthy.


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Re: Whats this Kony 2012 Bullshit everyone is spamming every site with....
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2012, 08:57:37 AM »
Wasting children's time and making them feel good for nothing.

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Re: Whats this Kony 2012 Bullshit everyone is spamming every site with....
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2012, 09:00:50 AM »
By Thursday, a video of the documentary has been viewed on YouTube at least 32 million times. There are countless tweets about it. Even Oprah appears to be a follower. The talk show queen had Invisible Children representatives on her show awhile back. The group tweeted her about the documentary, and she appears to have responded: "Thanks tweeps for sending me info about ending #LRAviolence. I am aware. Have supported with $'s and voice and will not stop. #KONY2012."



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Re: Whats this Kony 2012 Bullshit everyone is spamming every site with....
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2012, 09:47:36 AM »
This video reeks of montage and fakeness

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Re: Whats this Kony 2012 Bullshit everyone is spamming every site with....
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2012, 03:12:38 AM »
first time spamming is good

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Re: Whats this Kony 2012 Bullshit everyone is spamming every site with....
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2012, 03:22:50 AM »
my Norwegian friend got the shit kicked out of him by a few somalians at a pub in Oslo, now he's a racist

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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2012, 03:28:59 AM »
Spam - flagged and reported.  :)

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Re: Whats this Kony 2012 Bullshit everyone is spamming every site with....
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2012, 03:33:15 AM »
my Norwegian friend got the shit kicked out of him by a few somalians at a pub in Oslo, now he's a racist
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So he was drunk?

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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2012, 03:47:57 AM »
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So he was drunk?

yeah, i think, seeing as he's an alcoholic

and these dudes broke up thier beer bottles and sliced him up a bit, he has a scar along his neck and along his forearm

he said that somlians are ruining Norway, coz they come there and mooch off the goverment and hang around on the streets corners selling drugs

i've know this dude for almost 5 years, and he wasn't a racist when i first knew him

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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2012, 03:52:36 AM »
yeah, i think, seeing as he's an alcoholic

and these dudes broke up thier beer bottles and sliced him up a bit, he has a scar along his neck and along his forearm

he said that somlians are ruining Norway, coz they come there and mooch off the goverment and hang around on the streets corners selling drugs

i've know this dude for almost 5 years, and he wasn't a racist when i first knew him


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Come to vienna - coke is black here.
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Re: Whats this Kony 2012 Bullshit everyone is spamming every site with....
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2012, 03:55:48 AM »
yeah, i think, seeing as he's an alcoholic

and these dudes broke up thier beer bottles and sliced him up a bit, he has a scar along his neck and along his forearm

he said that somlians are ruining Norway, coz they come there and mooch off the goverment and hang around on the streets corners selling drugs

i've know this dude for almost 5 years, and he wasn't a racist when i first knew him

So a drunk is complaining that Somalis are ruining Norway---basically, he's complaining that that he can't get drunk and win a fight? Maybe if he didn't get twisted up, he wouldn't have had a fight with  Somalis, and wouldn't have been sliced up...

epic blaming other people for your own stupidity.

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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2012, 04:03:59 AM »
So a drunk is complaining that Somalis are ruining Norway---basically, he's complaining that that he can't get drunk and win a fight? Maybe if he didn't get twisted up, he wouldn't have had a fight with  Somalis, and wouldn't have been sliced up...

epic blaming other people for your own stupidity.

yes he's a drunk, but he's also relatively wealthy and he runs his own business quite sucessfully in fact

not all alcoholics are skid rowers

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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2012, 04:05:42 AM »
Always funny to talk to normal blacks and catch the fury about their 'brothers'  :D
Come to vienna - coke is black here.

who? me or my friend ;D

truth be told, the coolest dudes that i have met here in poland are black africans


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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2012, 04:33:45 AM »
yes he's a drunk, but he's also relatively wealthy and he runs his own business quite sucessfully in fact

not all alcoholics are skid rowers
I know, some of the worst drunks are the ones with money...they are the ones that either don't get caught or get off...and they tend to have domestic violence issues...

Yet, they consider themselves better than "others", but they have the same problems. The money masks it.