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WTF - how about we make BP pay to clean up their oil spill rather than asking potential homeowners to foot the bill (and the people who get FHA loans tend to be lower income borrowers)

333 - start your outrage and I'll join you on this one


http://www.housingwire.com/article/senators-want-higher-g-fees-pay-gulf-coast-cleanup
By Jon Prior• March 7, 2012 • 4:58pm

A group of senators want to extend higher Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac guarantee fees to pay for continued cleanup from the British Petroleum Gulf Coast oil spill.

Opponents say the measure, if passed, effectively taxes potential homebuyers and consumers looking to refinance their mortgages.

Congress already approved raising the g-fees through October 2021 by 10 basis points from the average fee charged last year. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the raise would offset $35.7 billion for the costs of the extended payroll tax cut.

The amendment is being pushed to the Restore the Gulf Coast Act of 2011, which would establish a trust fund paid for only partially by fines levied against BP. Sens. Mary Landrieu, D-La., and Richard Shelby, R-Ala. sponsored the bill.

According to a fact sheet circulated by Shelby and Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., the g-fee increase would be extended another year but would be 7.5 bps, which is 2.5 bps below the higher rate set by Congress to pay for the payroll tax cut. This could vary based on the amount needed by the overall bill.

"Various options have been put forth by supporters of the bill, but no final decision has been made at this point," a spokesman for Shelby's office said.

Mortgage industry trade groups pushed back Wednesday with a letter to Senate leaders Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

"G-fees are a critical risk management tool used by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to protect against losses from faulty loans. Increasing g-fees for other purposes — even just extending the current fee increase by one year at a lower rate — effectively taxes potential homebuyers and consumers looking to refinance their mortgages," according to a letter from the Mortgage Bankers Association, the National Association of Realtors and the National Association of Home Builders.

Jaret Seiberg, an analyst at the Washington-based Guggenheim Partners, said the amendment is unlikely to pass but that attempts to raise g-fees will continue to pop up during an election year.

"This reinforces our worry that Congress sees higher guarantee fees as an easy way to pay for new programs. Higher guarantee fees effectively raise costs for borrowers, which means more downward pressure on home prices," Seiberg said.


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Disgusting - like I said - if a massive calamity occured in DC and wiped out all of these traitors, I would throw a party. 



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Disgusting - like I said - if a massive calamity occured in DC and wiped out all of these traitors, I would throw a party. 

here's the difference between you and me

I can be angry at proposed legislation without wishing/celebrating mass death on DC and calling people traitors


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Ridiculous, but I'm not surprised by much these days.


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Serious question - why doesn't a guy like Rush spend 3 days talking about this

Unlike Fluke, who never asked Rush or anyone to pay her bills, you've got Democratic Senators pushing legislation to pass the bill for cleaning up the BP oil spill onto homeowners who are not responsible for the accident.

He could rant on this for days and both Dems and Repubs would support him

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Serious question - why doesn't a guy like Rush spend 3 days talking about this

Unlike Fluke, who never asked Rush or anyone to pay her bills, you've got Democratic Senators pushing legislation to pass the bill for cleaning up the BP oil spill onto homeowners who are not responsible for the accident.

He could rant on this for days and both Dems and Repubs would support him

Shelby is pushing this too no?   He is another greasy hog that needs to go. 

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WTF!!!!!
Full agreement here Straw. I r is outraged.
Yeah, not only tax new homeowners to pay for the payroll tax cut, but now make them pay for some companies fuck up!?

Makes a lot of sense.
Seems like homeowners are the new skapegoats now days, want to own a house? No you dont, cause were gonna fuck you straight in the ass! If you can afford a house, you can afford to give your money to the government so they can use it to subsidize their own personal bullshit endevours.

Companies are responsible for their own fucking bills, thats part of the price of having the freedoms afforded to business' in this country. You want to run own and run your company? Guess what, youre responsible for it.

Not citizens that have absolutley no stock or interest in it whatsoever.

I wonder how the fuck this even started in the 1st place? What fucking asshole had the brilliant idea?
This is starting to become borderline communism, having the government take peoples money and disperse it to companies as they see fit, isnt that one of the very bases of communism? The government takes all the money and decides who gets it so everyone gets "their fare share"?....

"Gee, well just make the tax payers pay for it! Hell, they pay for everything in the long run anyway, why not just cut out the bullshit and charge them directly?"

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WTF!!!!!
Full agreement here Straw. I r is outraged.
Yeah, not only tax new homeowners to pay for the payroll tax cut, but now make them pay for some companies fuck up!?

Makes a lot of sense.
Seems like homeowners are the new skapegoats now days, want to own a house? No you dont, cause were gonna fuck you straight in the ass! If you can afford a house, you can afford to give your money to the government so they can use it to subsidize their own personal bullshit endevours.

Companies are responsible for their own fucking bills, thats part of the price of having the freedoms afforded to business' in this country. You want to run own and run your company? Guess what, youre responsible for it.

Not citizens that have absolutley no stock or interest in it whatsoever.

I wonder how the fuck this even started in the 1st place? What fucking asshole had the brilliant idea?
This is starting to become borderline communism, having the government take peoples money and disperse it to companies as they see fit, isnt that one of the very bases of communism? The government takes all the money and decides who gets it so everyone gets "their fare share"?....

"Gee, well just make the tax payers pay for it! Hell, they pay for everything in the long run anyway, why not just cut out the bullshit and charge them directly?"

I forgot about the payroll tax

that's complete bullshit too and we can thank Repubs for that and we can thank Dems for this new proposed fee increase to pay for BP's mess

I wish this would get more time on the news instead of the crap like Fluke and other nonsense

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I went to a speech a little while back by the president of ATP Oil one of the companies that took the obama admin to task for intentionally slow walking new oil rig applications and won.

They lost 1.2 billion in revenue the year after obamas morotorium...

What would have been better would have been to not create and 3600 page application from a 40 page application for oil rigs like the obama admin did and instead created a better program where drilling companies set a side or have bonds to pay for potential disasters.


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Whats really funny is that youre against this straw but your for having the govt force ppl to pay for others health care...


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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 04:33:49 PM »
Whats really funny is that youre against this straw but your for having the govt force ppl to pay for others health care...

even funnier that you project your own beliefs onto me as I've never said any such thing


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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 04:53:05 PM »
even funnier that you project your own beliefs onto me as I've never said any such thing
LOL are you not for the individual mandate?

are you not for a single payer system?

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2012, 05:03:44 PM »
LOL are you not for the individual mandate?

are you not for a single payer system?

And you equate that with, as you put it, "having the govt force ppl to pay for others health care"

I see the cause of the confusion here

it's your ignorance of how insurance works

No one is forcing "ppl" to pay for others heath care

If anything the government is forcing deadbeats such as yourself to pay for your own health care so that you don't wind up in an emergency room where we all would actually have to pay for your health care

Sheesh - I though you would have figured this out by now

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2012, 05:07:32 PM »
And you equate that with, as you put it, "having the govt force ppl to pay for others health care"

I see the cause of the confusion here

it's your ignorance of how insurance works

No one is forcing "ppl" to pay for others heath care

If anything the government is forcing deadbeats such as yourself to pay for your own health care so that you don't wind up in an emergency room where we all would actually have to pay for your health care

Sheesh - I though you would have figured this out by now
that would be the case if deadbeats such as myself(which i am not ive had full coverage for over a year now not that facts have ever mattered to you) but since they are going to subsidize the majority of ppl who didnt have health care in the first place, you do you think is going to pay for that?

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2012, 05:17:18 PM »
Let's keep money in politics.  It's worKing ouT so well


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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2012, 05:36:55 PM »
that would be the case if deadbeats such as myself(which i am not ive had full coverage for over a year now not that facts have ever mattered to you) but since they are going to subsidize the majority of ppl who didnt have health care in the first place, you do you think is going to pay for that?

Glad to hear you're no longer a deadbeat

I was getting tired of paying for you

why do you still not understand that uninsured people cost us all money in the long run

It's better to have these people on some type of plan where they pay something rather than have them show up in the emergency room which eventually costs us all money in the long run

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2012, 07:03:51 PM »
33, for how much money would you wear this shirt for 16 hours on St Patty's day?

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2012, 07:06:14 PM »
33, for how much money would you wear this shirt for 16 hours on St Patty's day?

 Any person wearing that should be shot on site.

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2012, 07:07:34 PM »
Any person wearing that should be shot on site.

what if someone paid him to wear it?  in this economy, a dude can't pass up free money like that.

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2012, 07:08:39 PM »
what if someone paid him to wear it?  in this economy, a dude can't pass up free money like that.



Tough shit.  Personally, I believe every Obama voter deserves water boarding for weeks on end.

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2012, 07:14:58 PM »
Tough shit.  Personally, I believe every Obama voter deserves water boarding for weeks on end.

what about the 18% of repubs that stayed hom in 2008 because they thought the ticket was pure goat shit? 

Waterboarding too?  or something simpler like manpiling?

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2012, 07:16:07 PM »
what about the 18% of repubs that stayed hom in 2008 because they thought the ticket was pure goat shit? 

Waterboarding too?  or something simpler like manpiling?


Yes.    Whoever contributed to Obama being potus deserves a bucket full of cement dropped on their head off a three story tenement.

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2012, 07:31:52 PM »

Yes.    Whoever contributed to Obama being potus deserves a bucket full of cement dropped on their head off a three story tenement.

what about the repub primary voters who put up those two lamebrains?

maybe we can punish them with hetero intercourse for a year?

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2012, 07:33:32 PM »
what about the repub primary voters who put up those two lamebrains?

maybe we can punish them with hetero intercourse for a year?

when?  O 2008?   

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Re: Senators want people getting FHA loans to pay to clean up BP Oil Spill
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2012, 07:41:04 PM »
when?  O 2008?   

the 2008 primary voters that chose mccain.

FOX news told them it was between romney and mccain, and they bought that line of shit.  remember, dude?