is being steroided out of your mind an advantage in a street fight?

[purenaturalstrength]

The more street fights you have,the more skilled street fighter you will be in most cases.

i dont know is that real life or the movies?

[purenaturalstrength]

I know the feeling, it seems so fucking random.   I can do everything "wrong" and still crush in training. Also, I can do everything right and have a very hard time. Must be shitloads of variables involved haha.

i read in a weightlifting book by tomino kono that when you have a very good performance it can be followed by 2 weeks of subpar performance since you have used too much adrenaline

or something like that


not sure if that's bro science

[wes]

i dont know is that real life or the movies?

If you had 10 fights,and your opponent has had 50,you still might beat him,but with everything else being equal,the more experienced guy will prevail.

Think about a Golden Gloves boxer,fighting a pro boxer.....the pro boxer has already climbed through the ranks.

Of course the 10 fight guy could be one bad muthafuckler! 

[wes]

i read in a weightlifting book by tomino kono that when you have a very good performance it can be followed by 2 weeks of subpar performance since you have used too much adrenaline

or something like that


not sure if that's bro science

Periodization is the key to long term strength gains IMO,also learning to listen to your bodys feedback.

just because your schedule says add 2.5 pounds to each side of the bar,doesn`t mean the body will obey.

Think biorythm for just one of a myriad of variables.

[purenaturalstrength]

Periodization is key to long term strength gains IMO.

but it doesn't seem to work somehow

i tried this "dual factor" approach where you do an "over reaching phase" followed by "deloading and intensification"


and it looks good on paper


but doesnt deliver


i dont understand any of this shit every day i understand it less


it's all a big nothing

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

Periodization is the key to long term strength gains IMO,also learning to listen to your bodys feedback.

just because your schedule says add 2.5 pounds to each side of the bar,doesn`t mean the body will obey.

Think biorythm for just one of a myriad of variables.

But! Periodization isn't easy. It actually IS rocket science. 

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

PNS did you ever try smolov for squats.

[wes]

but it doesn't seem to work somehow

i tried this "dual factor" approach where you do an "over reaching phase" followed by "deloading and intensification"


and it looks good on paper


but doesnt deliver


i dont understand any of this shit every day i understand it less


it's all a big nothing

That`s what I mean about listening to your body...if your having a shitty day,just back off a bit .........in the long run you`d most likely make progress over time.

[purenaturalstrength]

PNS did you ever try smolov for squats.

no when i found out lay nortom does that i sort of assumed it was a scam that only works for juicers like his other routines?

looked it up and struck me as epic over training


i am trying to do this



but it doesn't work the way it is written i can only use 5lbs progressions weekly at best not 10lbs like it seems to suggest in the wall of text and percentages that comes with it

additionally, when i make a 5 week goal in the first phase that's really hard (and so should pass as over reaching) it all goes to shit in the next phase, start again and same shit all over again of course some small increases here and there but i'm talking like 5kg increase in several months.....

[purenaturalstrength]

That`s what I mean about listening to your body...if your having a shitty day,just back off a bit .........in the long run you`d most likely make progress over time.

yeah i tried that "instinctive" approach but it didnt work out it was too random and unstructured somehow

[Montague]

Usually in a bar fight or streetfight the person who lands the first blows attacks the hardest and fastest wins unless you are fighting an expert than can counter you.

This sounds like wisdom based on experience.
If you haven't been in typical bar/street fights yourself, I can tell you've at least witnessed a few with enough sobriety to make the correct observations.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

no when i found out lay nortom does that i sort of assumed it was a scam that only works for juicers like his other routines?

looked it up and struck me as epic over training


i am trying to do this



but it doesn't work the way it is written i can only use 5lbs progressions weekly at best not 10lbs like it seems to suggest in the wall of text and percentages that comes with it

additionally, when i make a 5 week goal in the first phase that's really hard (and so should pass as over reaching) it all goes to shit in the next phase, start again and same shit all over again of course some small increases here and there but i'm talking like 5kg increase in several months.....

You should try smolov bro. 1 more week and I finish the intense cycle.The base cycle already gave me 20kg. And yes it feels like you're going to die.  But it can be done.

[purenaturalstrength]

so you guys think periodization works after all? any books i should read on it....?


on scam-nation.com they claimed it only works for professional athletes but it seems better than snakeoilprotocol they promote on their website

[purenaturalstrength]

You should try smolov bro. 1 more week and I finish the intense cycle.The base cycle already gave me 20kg. And yes it feels like you're going to die.  But it can be done.

20kilogram? holy .... how strong are you exactly and are you on the celltech?

as for me a few weeks back my personal record was 5 reps with double bodyweight complete rom squat


is this smolov only squats or also bench? my bench is yoyo-ing pointlessly as well


i dont care about deadlift it is my best lift by far and i dont really value it

[D.O.U.P]

No, its not an advantage-at all.

The majority of gassed up guys Ive known or met were PUSSIES.

You know who you are.

NOW, there have been acceptions. My old boss was a high level bodybuilder and a hall of fame ASS KICKER.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

20kilogram? holy .... how strong are you exactly and are you on the celltech?

as for me a few weeks back my personal record was 5 reps with double bodyweight complete rom squat


is this smolov only squats or also bench? my bench is yoyo-ing pointlessly as well


i dont care about deadlift it is my best lift by far and i dont really value it

Squat only.(atg, weightlifting shoes, no belt)

I don't deadlift at all as it totally ruins my recovery.

1rm will be tested in 2 weeks, will be 200-210kg's. Last workouts were 5x5x170 and 4x3x175. Bw 88kg no celltech.  


I started smolov at 1x170 after a motorcycle accident. My best set before that was 3x180kg (also higher bw).

[Euro-monster]

Squat only.(atg, weightlifting shoes, no belt)

I don't deadlift at all as it totally ruins my recovery.

1rm will be tested in 2 weeks, will be 200-210kg's. Last workouts were 5x5x170 and 4x3x175. Bw 88kg no celltech.  


I started at 170 after a motorcycle accident. lol. My best set before that was 3x180kg.

Thats your first mistake son...

[purenaturalstrength]

Squat only.(atg, weightlifting shoes, no belt)

I don't deadlift at all as it totally ruins my recovery.

1rm will be tested in 2 weeks, will be 200-210kg's. Last workouts were 5x5x170 and 4x3x175. Bw 88kg no celltech.  

yes this is exactly how i squat as well


oddly enough we are close to the same strength

my best 5x5 was 160kg and 1x5 170kg (and 3x3x165kg)
 85kg bw no celltech


but the real disaster is the bench press is it not


how do people get up to 140kg for reps preferably or a single? even that jason genova kid benches 315lbs (140kg?)

[TRIX]

If skill is equal

170 lb vs 250 lb guy

I would go with the 250 lb guy 9/10 times

They have weight divisions for a reason

[Radical Plato]

being scared makes you freeze sort of and not counter attack aggressively which is what you should do instead of being beat up  

This is why focus on breathing during combat is very important, especially in the beginning of the fight when there is a large tendenency to lose focus and enter the crazy realm, not good, the trick is too stay calmer than the opponent, you will know WHO is the calmest, remaining genuinely calm can frighten your opponent, as it is not normal in emotionally charged situations, this is why it is important to meditate when feeling heavy emotions, it wont make them go away but controlled breathing will settle them and take away the nervous edge.  Also I tend to find if both combatants survive the initial clash and begin to gas, fear dissipates rapidly.  Our minds seem to exacerbate fears to greater than what they need be, once our brain and body has faced that fear it has a more realistic idea of the level of threat, and normally reduces anxiety levels. Anyway, go in peace - and Don't start Nuttin Wont be Nuttin

[dustin]

I was like you once.

Now I'm drinking shitloads of alcohol, squatting shitloads of weight while being ripped to shreds.  It doesn't do shit.

EXACTLY!!!

We literally bought a truck load of expensive alcohol for my wedding so I started drinking a lot then (or was it because of the wedding itself LOL).

It's been almost two years and I look better than ever. I don't get black out drunk but a drink in the evening or a few drinks a week. Even after I do get really smashed I just wake up looking shredded as fuck. I'm sure it can't be the greatest for your liver but if you stay hydrated and aren't an alcoholic you CAN drink.

I hate natural friends too that drink a lot, and they look far better than my natural friends who weight chicken breasts and granola on their faggy digital food scales. They go crush pussy every weekend and drink all the time and they're pretty jacked for being natural. Then you have the pussy ones that read things on bodybuilding.com and follow their advices perfectly and they look like weak pieces of shit.

If you live like a pussy you will TURN INTO A PUSSY!!!

[Domthemilky]

have you tried 5/3/1 by jim wendler PNS? its a good programme. saw some guy doing it in the gym today , reminded me of when i tried it. i also wonder how naturals achieve such a good bench with good form. i reckon they are secretly on celltech or those strong BSN products all the top bodybuilders take.

[A Professional]

Yes, it is a big advantage.

[Kwon_2]

i wonder sometimes


being on so much testosterone would it not mean you dont feel doubt or fear?

Fighting average joe it will bring a factor of intimidation, but against a real fighter, it's crap.

Feeling no doubt or fear won't protect your chin.

[chess315]

i wonder sometimes


being on so much testosterone would it not mean you dont feel doubt or fear?

all things being equal yes. But as wes mentioned the more street fighting you do the better you will be. Also getting drunk and punking out twinks is not fighting. A fight imo only happens when both sides a chance of losing very few people take them fights. Many people think they are like to fight because the push around 170lb kids if your really like to fight the thrill of maybe losing is part of the draw to it. Much like a gambler.