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The sooner we collapse the better.   i will parade and elebrate the day the thugs in the police department and school system lose everything.  

  


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The sooner we collapse the better.   i will parade and elebrate the day the thugs in the police department and school system lose everything.   

Agreed.  without schools to educate, parents can teach their kids what they want.  without police, people can indiscriminantly blast anyone who annoys them.

we'll have a polite society filled with people who can't read.  Sounds like a plan, man.

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Agreed.  without schools to educate, parents can teach their kids what they want.  without police, people can indiscriminantly blast anyone who annoys them.

we'll have a polite society filled with people who can't read.  Sounds like a plan, man.

Hush you leftist dirt bas.  Its better that people take responsibility for themselves by educating there own and protecting themselves with a glock.

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Agreed.  without schools to educate, parents can teach their kids what they want.  without police, people can indiscriminantly blast anyone who annoys them.

we'll have a polite society filled with people who can't read.  Sounds like a plan, man.

you are a moron and have no idea the public sector scams these scum bags in the education department and pd pull. 

When we declare bankruptcy - I will personally toss a block party laughing at the thug cops and idiot teachers for losing their pensions and health care.   I will love that day!


These scum bags have blocked any and all reform for decades and now that the chickens have come home to roost after years of their bullshit - fuckem - every last thug teacher and cop.         

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Hush you leftist dirt bas.  Its better that people take responsibility for themselves by educating there own and protecting themselves with a glock.


True - people paying 15k a year in property taxes on a 300k house to keep paying for thepublic sector communists and thugs would probably do a way better job. 

I'm not kidding - i pray for the day we collapse in NYS and all the public sector goons lose everything.

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Hush you leftist dirt bas.  Its better that people take responsibility for themselves by educating there own and protecting themselves with a glock.

I think any food containing a nutritional label is nothing more than a conveyance of liberal propaganda.

I want an EATER, not a READER!

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I think any food containing a nutritional label is nothing more than a conveyance of liberal propaganda.

I want an EATER, not a READER!

You and ozmo are two brain dead leftists.   The public sector thieves are destroying everything with the tax they impose n the economy.   

There is no mathmatical formula to where the demands of these cry babies can be met that does not involve collapse and depression.   

where I live the criminal thug cops pull in well over 100k a piece and retire at 45yo w 75-100k a year pensions for life. 


The idiot teachers (yes most are morons) cry about working 9 months year and 8 hours a day are clueless about reality. 

I'm not kidding - if we woke up tommorow and collapsed and these greedy maddoffs in govt lost everything, it would thrill me to no end.   
   

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You and ozmo are two brain dead leftists.   The public sector thieves are destroying everything with the tax they impose n the economy.   

There is no mathmatical formula to where the demands of these cry babies can be met that does not involve collapse and depression.   

where I live the criminal thug cops pull in well over 100k a piece and retire at 45yo w 75-100k a year pensions for life. 


The idiot teachers (yes most are morons) cry about working 9 months year and 8 hours a day are clueless about reality. 

I'm not kidding - if we woke up tommorow and collapsed and these greedy maddoffs in govt lost everything, it would thrill me to no end.   
   

lol  you are soo funny sometimes.   

You are certainly are the Al Sharpton of Getbig.

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I think any food containing a nutritional label is nothing more than a conveyance of liberal propaganda.

I want an EATER, not a READER!

Labels are for leftists!

Cops are for crybabies

Schools are for sissies.

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lol  you are soo funny sometimes.   

You are certainly are the Al Sharpton of Getbig.


Since we are on the MSNBC thing, you are the Lawrence Odonnell of Get Big - a hopelessly naive dolt with his head in the sand about reality.   

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Since we are on the MSNBC thing, you are the Lawrence Odonnell of Get Big - a hopelessly naive dolt with his head in the sand about reality.   

I think i'd rather be that then a birther loon, but its all good.   Sorry i don't share your nazi like fear mongering of the left.   :-*

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Since we are on the MSNBC thing, you are the Lawrence Odonnell of Get Big - a hopelessly naive dolt with his head in the sand about reality.   

Lawrence Odonnell is a little over the top my man! /semi-pro

 seriously odonnell is the lowest of low, nobody on here is that bad :D

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I think i'd rather be that then a birther loon, but its all good.   Sorry i don't share your nazi like fear mongering of the left.   :-*

Fearmongering?   Like who/  Stalin?  Marx? Lenin? Trotsky? Engels? Mao?  Who?  


Because you know what?  The end of result of all your leftist delusions and bullshit ends the same way every single fucking time.  

"wwwwaahhh   - -  I'm the 99% - take away my freedom and liberty and give me a hand out  - wwwaahhhhh"    

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Fearmongering?   Like who/  Stalin?  Marx? Lenin? Trotsky? Engels? Mao?  Who?  


Because you know what?  The end of result of all your leftist delusions and bullshit ends the same way every single fucking time.  

"wwwwaahhh   - -  I'm the 99% - take away my freedom and liberty and give me a hand out  - wwwaahhhhh"    

No, mainly like Adolf in the 30's.

You could like do speeches on the radio, seriously. 

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No, mainly like Adolf in the 30's.

You could like do speeches on the radio, seriously. 

Hitler was a leftist as well - "NATIONAL SOCIALIST" 


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Hitler was a leftist as well - "NATIONAL SOCIALIST" 



You 2 sound reincarnated together. 

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You 2 sound reincarnated together. 

really?    hitler was about compulsory govt programs, national solutions, collective rights and responsibilities, collective will and goals, etc.   sounds a lot ore like you leftist drones and utopian fools than a libertarian seeking to drastically shrink the govt and leave people alone from govr force.

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March 12, 2012
Blue Blights Empire State



http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/03/12/blue-blights-empire-state



Weekend readers of the New York Times got an eyeful yesterday; the Grey Lady took a long look at New York state, and the result is an article that could almost have appeared in the Weekly Standard or the National Review. While the Times carefully avoided drawing any indelicate conclusions that might upset its liberal readership, the review of government finance at the state and local level reveals an appalling picture of blue model thinking at its worst.  New York state and local politicians, egged on by public sector unions, have dug the state into such a deep hole that it will be hard to emerge.

And the unions — along with the pro-bankruptcy wing of the Democratic Party — want to keep digging.

The reality is that from Long Island to Buffalo, New York cities and counties face severe and growing fiscal woes. The chief drivers of the crisis: blue sweetheart programs that are out of control: state pensions, Medicaid, and retiree health costs.

Example: New York City’s annual out of pocket pension costs have ballooned from $1.5 billion a year ten years ago to $8 billion today.  This is the cost of the lies New York politicians have told their sheep like constituents for many years, promising fat pensions to workers while refusing to raise taxes to put enough money away for when the bills come due. According to the eye popping numbers in the Times, 3 percent of New York city property tax revenues went to pay pension costs in 2001; 35 percent of those revenues will go to pensions by 2015.

Meanwhile, the ratings agencies have been downgrading the debt of New York cities and counties as if we were on the Mediterranean: last month alone Rockland County and the city of Utica got downgrades, with Long Beach and Yonkers getting hit last year. Suffolk and Nassau counties are having to borrow to pay their pension fund contributions for this year; worse is likely to come even as the general economy slowly improves.

Read the whole piece to see both how a whole state can go down the tubes, and how a newspaper can report facts while tip toeing carefully around any implications that might make its readers unhappy.

The root problem is that New York elected officials lost sight years ago of the need to run the state and its cities on a businesslike basis. They made “investments” in social policy and educational spending that manifestly did not pay off in terms of enhanced productivity or economic benefits. They made pension promises that they neglected to fund. New York as a state has been committed to the belief that a high regulation, high cost, big government approach to state and municipal management would pay off in the long run: yes, government in New York would cost more than in Texas or Alabama or other benighted hell holes, but New Yorkers would be better educated and more productive. New York’s infrastructure might be expensive, but it would facilitate business growth. New York’s public sector labor force might be expensive, but it would be competent and motivated so that it would deliver more. New York could make a high cost, high regulation governance model work: that was the big bet.

It has failed.

It’s time for the state to take a long hard look at itself. The investments haven’t paid off — at least not enough to justify the costs. The government model is breaking down; the system doesn’t generate enough revenue to cover its cost.

Hopefully an economic recovery will provide a little breathing space, but New York can’t afford to waste any respite it gets. The state is on the wrong road and the outlook is grim.

When blue policy goes wrong, blue pols and their chorus of captive intellectuals sing for bailouts.  If the city is broke, the state must pay up.  If the state is broke, the feds must pay up.

But the feds can’t — and won’t — pay up.  The feds are tapped out, the state is a mess, and there will soon no alternative to deep policy change.


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California's Greek Tragedy (A Once prosperous economy needs major reform to reverse massive decline)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 03/13/2012 | By MICHAEL J. BOSKIN and JOHN F. COGAN

Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:18:37 AM by SeekAndFind

Long a harbinger of national trends and an incubator of innovation, cash-strapped California eagerly awaits a temporary revenue surge from Facebook IPO stock options and capital gains. Meanwhile, Stockton may soon become the state's largest city to go bust. Call it the agony and ecstasy of contemporary California.

California's rising standards of living and outstanding public schools and universities once attracted millions seeking upward economic mobility. But then something went radically wrong as California legislatures and governors built a welfare state on high tax rates, liberal entitlement benefits, and excessive regulation. The results, though predictable, are nonetheless striking. From the mid-1980s to 2005, California's population grew by 10 million, while Medicaid recipients soared by seven million; tax filers paying income taxes rose by just 150,000; and the prison population swelled by 115,000.

California's economy, which used to outperform the rest of the country, now substantially underperforms. The unemployment rate, at 10.9%, is higher than every other state except Nevada and Rhode Island. With 12% of America's population, California has one third of the nation's welfare recipients.

Partly due to generous union wages and benefits, inflexible work rules and lobbying for more spending, many state programs and institutions spend too much and achieve too little. For example, annual spending on each California prison inmate is equal to an entire middle-income family's after-tax income. Many of California's K-12 public schools rank poorly on standardized tests. The unfunded pension and retiree health-care liabilities of workers in the state-run Calpers system, which includes teachers and university personnel, totals around $250 billion.

Meanwhile, the state lurches from fiscal tragedy to fiscal farce, running deficits in good times as well as bad. The general fund's spending exceeded its tax revenues in nine of the last 10 years


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Agreed.  without schools to educate, parents can teach their kids what they want.  without police, people can indiscriminantly blast anyone who annoys them.

we'll have a polite society filled with people who can't read.  Sounds like a plan, man.

Piss off. It's going to take a collapse of the proportions 333 suggests to finally end this little Keynesian shell game you and your leftist cohorts have been playing.

You people can't wrap your heads around how bankrupt we (and the majority of the planet) are.

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Exodus: California Tax Revenue Plunges by 22%
Breitbart ^ | 3/13/12 | Chriss W. Street
Posted on March 13, 2012 10:41:31 PM EDT by Nachum

State Controller John Chaing continues to uphold the California Great Seal Motto of “Eureka”, i.e., 'I have found it'. But what Chaing is finding as Controller is that California’s economy as measured by tax revenues is still tanking. Compared to last year, State tax collections for February shriveled by $1.2 billion or 22%. The deterioration is more than double the shocking $535 million reported decline for last month. The cumulative fiscal year decline is $6.1 billion or down 11% versus this period in 2011. (snip) California politicians seem delusional in their continued delusion that high taxes have not savaged

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Agreed.  without schools to educate, parents can teach their kids what they want.  without police, people can indiscriminantly blast anyone who annoys them.

we'll have a polite society filled with people who can't read.  Sounds like a plan, man.

Funny thing is, people used to think like that in the Soviet Union. They thought, "without the government producing our shoes, how would we ever have shoes?!? The poor would go barefoot! There would be shoe discrimination, we'd have an unmatching number of left shoes and right shoes, there would be too many choices, and a shoe monopolist would extort us with profits!"

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Saving California
Townhall.com ^ | March 15, 2012 | Michael Reagan




In less than 50 years they ruined my home state.

They over-taxed it, over-regulated it and bankrupted it. They strangled its vibrant economy, destroyed its education system and let its infrastructure crumble.

Who are these people who've turned the Golden State into Greece?

Not Big Business. Not the rich. Not the poor. Not millions of immigrants from Des Moines or Juarez.

"They" are the career politicians in Sacramento. Their excessive lawmaking, taxing and spending have transformed California into a European welfare state with a grim future.

It's hard for me to believe how things have deteriorated in California since the late 1960s. I can remember when Ronald Reagan was governor. We had a surplus. He actually gave money back to the people of California.

The state once was famous for having the best education system, the best business climate, the best roads and infrastructure in America. It was a growing, dynamic paradise where people came to pursue their dreams and hopes.

Now California's a wreck that people and businesses are leaving in droves. And Gov. Brown and his gang are offering us more of the same this fall -- higher income and sales taxes and a bullet train no one wants but them.

To reverse its death spiral, California needs to return to a part-time legislature and turn its career politicians into part-time citizen politicians -- which is what they are in 41 other states and what they were in California until 1967.

Today the state's 120 legislators work year-round and their $95,000 salaries are sweetened by as much as $50,000 in tax-free per diem allowances. They are the highest-paid lawmakers in the country.

Compare California to Texas and Florida. In Texas they pay legislators $600 a month and the legislature meets 140 days a year. In Florida lawmakers get $30,000 a year and meet just 60 days.

The politicians in Texas and Florida do not make politics their careers. They have to have real jobs in the real world. When they're not in Austin or Tallahassee, they must live and do business under the same laws they have written.

Part-time legislators are what the founding fathers wanted lawmakers to be. My father Ronald Reagan was a citizen politician. Politics was not a career for him. It was a service. He gave of himself.

People have repeatedly asked me to run for the U.S. Senate against Dianne Feinstein. But I think that a new job I have -- chairing the "Citizen Legislature Act" -- is better for me and the state.

California citizens are in the streets collecting signatures now to put the initiative on the fall ballot. The act would return the state to a part-time legislature. Lawmaking sessions would be cut from 230 days to 90 days. And legislators would be forced to produce on-time, balanced budgets or not get paid. What a concept.

The act also would end politics as a full-time career in California. Legislators would be paid $1,500 a month. At $18,000 a year, they'd have to find real jobs and see what it's like to live under the dumb and/or bad laws they write by the thousands in Sacramento.

The "Citizen Legislature Act," which I will work hard to see become law, would shock the systems of the politicians. They'd have to start serving the people of California, not themselves. And I bet they wouldn't be passing any new bullet train legislation.



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