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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2012, 12:25:04 AM »
Quote from: purenaturalstrength on March 12, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
a suit and knee wraps add 100lbs?




200+ if you know how to use them. A lot, lot more with multiply and a monolift.

I never learned how to use them, but I could do a double with 675 in a single ply suit with no wraps, so it's not exactly hard to believe Ronnie could double 100lbs more esp. since he didnt go to parallel on either rep and he was twice my size...

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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2012, 12:31:57 AM »
A lot of the westside guys get +250lb out of a suit
Donnie squats 1000 raw, 1250 odd suited
Phil Harrington squats about 750 raw, and about a grand suited at ~180 lol
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2012, 02:00:43 AM »
A lot Of guys talking. I sense on this thread need to realise Coleman is a bber not a power lifer take some of these fat powerlifting types bring them down to under 20% bf then put 800lb on their back ... Their would be crumble Coleman is sub 8 bf%... Squatting 800 ... Dead lifting 800 even at a lower bf ... So put things in perspective
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2012, 02:24:39 AM »
Quote from: mesmorph78 on March 13, 2012, 02:00:43 AM
A lot Of guys talking. I sense on this thread need to realise Coleman is a bber not a power lifer take some of these fat powerlifting types bring them down to under 20% bf then put 800lb on their back ... Their would be crumble Coleman is sub 8 bf%... Squatting 800 ... Dead lifting 800 even at a lower bf ... So put things in perspective

1. Your English is shit and it took me ages to figure out wtf you were even saying
2. Those were not squats, they were 4-5" above parallel. If you think that because you can squat 800lb to that depth and full squat with any more than 650 you're deluded
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2012, 02:39:28 AM »
Quote from: purenaturalstrength on March 12, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
look at the bar speed in his 800lbs squat, if this is real he can squat easily over 1000



You have seen his muscles, but you think that he uses fake plates because he is too weak to lift the load? This could be news to you, but guys with that big muscles are usually very strong, because those muscles doesn't grow by collecting stamps..
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #55 on: March 13, 2012, 05:30:56 PM »
Quote from: oni on March 13, 2012, 02:24:39 AM
1. Your English is shit and it took me ages to figure out wtf you were even saying
2. Those were not squats, they were 4-5" above parallel. If you think that because you can squat 800lb to that depth and full squat with any more than 650 you're deluded
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those squats were below paralell to me....
most powerlifter squats resemble good mornings...
.... fat power lifer compared to under 7% bf coleman.... who is training not at a power meet no comparision...
and again regarding squat depth i wonder what moron put it into some of you guys head that your ass needs to touch the floor for it to be considered a squat....  ..... ronnies squat depth has always been fine... IMO
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #56 on: March 13, 2012, 06:15:17 PM »
Ronnie used fake plates and all of his muscles were implants.
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #57 on: March 13, 2012, 08:38:13 PM »
Quote from: purenaturalstrength on March 12, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
look at the bar speed in his 800lbs squat, if this is real he can squat easily over 1000



UMMM N0. N0T 0NE 0F TH0SE REPS W0ULD C0UNT IN A LEGIMIATE P0WERLIFTING MEET LIKE THE IPF. N0T T00 MENTI0N HE'S SUITED UP AND HASN'T EVEN G0NE BEL0W PARRALLEL.
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #58 on: March 13, 2012, 08:47:38 PM »
Quote from: Jaime on March 12, 2012, 04:49:09 PM
Yes, i have lost sleep thinking about it.

I LOLed  there!
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2012, 12:37:36 AM »
Not fake. ;D There are different types of bars.
Some softer, some hard that don't bend so easy so i imagine the bend speed depends on that as well.
I think Dobson himself said Coleman used a very tough bar.
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2012, 12:43:27 AM »
colman has enough bodymass to move that weight doesnt so much matter if its fat/muscle. He also has enough bodymass to get a very lot of out a squatsuit /wraps the larger you are the more they help. More material equals more stored energy. THat why the tall skinny russian that deadlifts 970 dont compete in equiped its just not favorable for a leaner or thinner person bigger= more stretch material.
  One of the big things wrong with powerlifting equipment favors larger people giving people incentive for getting fat.
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2012, 12:45:37 AM »
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2012, 01:05:46 AM »
Quote from: chess315 on March 14, 2012, 12:43:27 AM
colman has enough bodymass to move that weight doesnt so much matter if its fat/muscle. He also has enough bodymass to get a very lot of out a squatsuit /wraps the larger you are the more they help. More material equals more stored energy. THat why the tall skinny russian that deadlifts 970 dont compete in equiped its just not favorable for a leaner or thinner person bigger= more stretch material.
  One of the big things wrong with powerlifting equipment favors larger people giving people incentive for getting fat.
i never understand how fat lifts weight

i've heard this before and i believe you but i cant understand how more fat can give more strength

you have to lift the fat after all ...?
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2012, 01:22:25 AM »
  It is corollary laws of physiology and physics that it is impossible to get muscles that big without becoming very, very strong. A simple fact of physiology determines that:

  The individual contractile unit of muscle tissue, the sarcomere, does not become stronger. Which leads to a conclusion based on physics:

  You can only become significantly stronger by increasing the number of sarcomeres in a muscle, and hence it's size.

  I am using the word "significantly" because a lot of strength gains come from superior neuromuscular efficiency. But there are limits. Up to a point, the only way for a muscle to become stronger is for it to become bigger.

  In other words, Coleman was just as strong as he claimed to be. He had to be to be 290 lbs with 5% bodyfat at 5'11. There is no other way.

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Re: Did Ronnie Coleman ever use fake plates in the 800lb squat?
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2012, 09:43:34 AM »
Easily, huh? There is a WORLD of difference between 800 pounds and a grand. And he wasn't even hitting legal depth with the 800, anyway (the plates are real). Not that he wasn't crazy strong, but why do so few here have a clue about strength and ... well, the difference in magnitude of 800 versus 1,000?

 
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2012, 09:45:28 AM »
Quote from: purenaturalstrength on March 12, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
a suit and knee wraps add 100lbs?

You're kidding, right?

For a guy with a screen name like yours ...  ::)

Listen, a single-ply suit with modest wrapping of the knees can yield WELL more than a 100-pound increase. 
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2012, 09:47:36 AM »
Quote from: Hulkotron on March 12, 2012, 05:06:25 PM
I don't think it's unrealistic at all that Ronnie was as strong as a low-grade competitive powerlifter.

Low grade? yeah, right, buddy. A 700-plus squat is a low grade lift. Fuck me sideways.
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Re: Did Ronnie Coleman ever use fake plates in the 800lb squat?
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2012, 09:48:26 AM »
Quote from: Fortress on March 14, 2012, 09:43:34 AM
Easily, huh? There is a WORLD of difference between 800 pounds and a grand. And he wasn't even hitting legal depth with the 800, anyway (the plates are real). Not that he wasn't crazy strong, but why do so few here have a clue about strength and ... well, the difference in magnitude of 800 versus 1,000?

 
Because roids diminish the need for understanding and knowledge of physiology to reach desired goals, fact, all bbers know jack shit about what they do.
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2012, 09:53:26 AM »
Quote from: chess315 on March 12, 2012, 07:19:26 PM
way over a 100lbs genrally someone  that squats 1000 in a double-triple ply suit is maybe a raw 650-800 it varies the bigger you are the more material used in your suit ,wraps the more advatage to you. Many 1000lbs squatters have missed raws well under 700. I give coleman is prolly gaining 100-200lbs from the suit wraps 100 is on the low side. SO that would be like you squatting 400 for a few reps raw. Mass moves mass

Someone with a clue!
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Re: Did Ronnie Coleman ever use fake plates in the 800lb squat?
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2012, 09:59:11 AM »
Quote from: Metabolic on March 14, 2012, 09:48:26 AM
Because roids diminish the need for understanding and knowledge of physiology to reach desired goals, fact, all bbers know jack shit about what they do.

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Re: Did Ronnie Coleman ever use fake plates in the 800lb squat?
« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2012, 10:00:32 AM »
Quote from: Fortress on March 14, 2012, 09:59:11 AM
All?

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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #71 on: March 14, 2012, 10:09:41 AM »
Quote from: purenaturalstrength on March 12, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
a suit and knee wraps add 100lbs?




lol wraps alone can add 100lbs if you know what you're doing.

for advanced lifters suit+wraps add more than 220lbs. there are naturals in colemans weight class that squat around 1000lbs in suit...



that's 911lbs x 3



i know you don't believe drug testing but you know, after 90% of polish national junior team being banned for steroids considering the fact that he's one of the very vew who remained considering the fact that he competed a lot at that time he's either very smart or... clean.
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Re: have you guys even considered the possibility coleman used fake plates?
« Reply #72 on: March 14, 2012, 10:28:54 AM »
Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on March 12, 2012, 05:46:54 PM
Only checked 1! local bodybuilder of mine, and he does 682 pounds here.  ::)





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Re: Did Ronnie Coleman ever use fake plates in the 800lb squat?
« Reply #73 on: March 14, 2012, 10:33:39 AM »
i swear to christ this has to be one of the top 5 dumbest threads in the history of Getbig.
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Re: Did Ronnie Coleman ever use fake plates in the 800lb squat?
« Reply #74 on: March 14, 2012, 10:37:24 AM »
Quote from: purenaturalstrength on March 12, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
look at the bar speed in his 800lbs squat, if this is real he can squat easily over 1000


arnold never used fake weights....
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