GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!

[Swlabr]

I'm making this thread to show how gh15 helped me personally as a bodybuilder. When I first started reading the bible (first because I still read it -- I call it 'bible studies' nowadays), I was 180 lbs. I had been training for a year or so with reasonable success. 180 lbs @ 8% 6 foot with reasonable strength for a natural was decent. However, my mental state was literally beyond obsessed. I used to sit in my room for an hour before my work out, psyching myself up, watching videos about form and diet, reading bodybuilding.com's latest articles on how to "supercharge my leg work outs" and "get shredded for summer" bla bla bla.

My diet was IMPECCABLE; I planned what I would eat the next day on fitday.com. I remember counting out the number of raisins I would eat (13 every day, never more, sometimes less if I felt bad about my bodyfat levels) and I'd weigh out all my food. If my mother made something that didn't fit my macros I'd make myself some tuna while the rest of the family ate delicious, calorie-dense foods. I was obsessed to say the least.

Anyway, I got to 180 lbs, fairly lean when I started thinking about maybe doing a cycle here and there. I lurked some steroid boards and quickly became an expert in my own mind regarding steroids; I had my cycle planned out. 500 mg test-e/week with 30 mg dbol kickstart lasting all of 12 weeks, then I'd do PCT for 12 weeks because time off = time on. I'd keep all my gains and then do another cycle, this time 500 mg test-e/week with some deca thrown in there, with PCT of course because you can't just stay on forever! YOU'D DIE! During this whole thing diet has to be impeccable bla bla bla.

Then I stumbled across the bible, and I read this:

that is correct,,
gh15 does not belive in post cycle terapy simply for the mere fact that no one is ever off completely for enough time to need it ,,
in addition the whole pct doesnt help preerve anything but little water from estorgen related products,,the actual difference will be nothign between a guy on pct and a guy off pct as long as they both reduce training and continue eating ,,

the 5-10 lb you hold on you when using pct are always water weight,,mentally pct may be important since some lifter and bodybuilder need this placebo effect for their own brain issues but it has nthingto do with the physiqe,,

you will lose muscle when you stip eatin and training accordingly to your specific situation ,,

beside you take gh and you never need pct again not even the ones with the fucked up head becausse gh will make you happy and your brain will think youre the best physiqe walking around even though youre not,,

gh = prozac and zoloft

look at larry scot and mr oliva and tell me they ever did pct,, the pct thing is a joke of dealers and wanna be bodybuilder that try to sell you more things,,,its an internet phenomenon that became a norm yet hurt you more then help

the human body can recover from anything and fast! dont need no true protien crap my firend nor do those kids needs your stupid pct bottles you like to sell on research sites under grey area,,,

there i no need for pct,,the human body aim at omeostasis,, and thus shall always get back to initiral standards,,,some fellas severe abusers of hormones fuck themselves for ever and not because of hormones ,, in that case million units of hcg also wont help,,the ones who do it know who they are

pain killer + drinking + specific strong narcotic drugs + the homorns use will cauise permenent damage that nothing can recover,,

rest of bodybuilders recover very well,,losing 15 pounds doesnt mean you shrink to nothingness,,insted of 240 youre 225 ,,but always bigger than the 180 lb you started at,,

pct is garbage term came out of the house olds of the dantas and the tropopins that can not and will never ever win a professional card nor win any serious competition

infact the chance of many so called hormonized clubbers and dealers to nto wake up after going to sleep is much rather higher than him becoming professional,,and thats with all the pct in the world

What the fuck? This goes against everything I had read before, but it makes sense... I read more and more and I read this, amongst other things,

i dont understand whats so fucking hard to follow a diet like this

1 eggwhite carton peptti food or whataveer all whites walmart brand whatever you find
2 cans of pine apple juice
3 banans
some puffpuff cereal with almond milk or something optionsl...some organic shit cereal if you can find

then later on

sushi chirashi its big dish 25 dollaors worth add some rolls to it ,,

then later on  
some steak or chikan or even bbq chikan pizza type from california kitchen style ...+ some icecream peut butter

then later on
more eggwhite papetti the al damn container

then if you are hungry maybe more sushi


whats so hard ?? i dont get this what is so damn hard in follwing this thing? you can get down to 6% and large impressive 220lb 5'10 6% on this diet no problemos ...hgh trenbolona testostrona equipona...we all do this damn thing day in day out,, we dont even do cardio ...thennnnn to get up to 220+ insulina and higher gh take place...this is how it is friends

competition time from 6 to 4% clean the damn diet foro few weeks and you are there,, diuretic to polish it all and stage time

gh15 approved

and this:

10 most common mistake of up an coming bodybuild,,bible index file


1. thinking you can ever  walk around 8-10% 240+ lb 5-8 -5'10 with out the usage of high doses of testosterona,, this is one of the most common mistakes i see now day fellas do ,,absolitly immposible no matter who you are,, you will never even see 220lb 8% at 5'10 with out good dose in the gram + of testosterona

2. thinking they can grow lean with the usage of insulina at high dose and gh at low dose,,they always find themself dropping over 50lb and in many time more due to fat from within the muscle,,those are the worse bodybuild,,they look great in gym and come competition weigh they go down from 250 to the 200 like there is no tomorrow only to support a massive 36-38 inch gut and minimal muscle improvements ,,they shall be name thie MISGUIDED  from this day on

3. thinking they can can shrink wrapped photo shoot condition with out the usage of diuretic ,,this is common belief made by gurus and absolitly is wrong,,every fitness model and bodybuild is very very femiliar with the usage of diuretics it si integral part of bodybuild and fitness modeling

4.thinking there is any natural ,,true natural photo in a magazine,,NEVER EVER will they put a true natural in magazine unless it is aimed at losing weight and only losing weight which is not what they aim at in bodybuild and fitness magazine,,every one who gets in a maagzine has been chasing it long time and it usualy a consistant long time user of hormones,,

5.thinking that bodybuild is athlete ,,we are not athlete ,,we are drug users ,,hormone users who work with the drugs inorder to improve our look of physiqe,, we work quite short times in the gym ususaly the smart ones are in and out in under an hour,,

6. thinking the advanced bodybuild is blown up due to some heavy lifting ,,NEVER THE CASE,,we got our muscle big due to hormonal usage and good respond to legit products! in high enough doses   !!! this is what got us big muscle and conditioned muscle ,,and we supported it later by heavier poundage and all along we try to work poundage that is newer and heavier when new hormonizers but the saturation limit is maxed very fast ,,and the typical hormonized bodybuild do not work very heavy on a regular basis ,,infact many of us dont even train and look like shit when off our regymen even if only one drug is out of wack with what we need to be taking ,, in ths aspect gh15 would like you to look around in the next few weeks in yoru local gyms and spot the bigger fellas... follow their training,,, tell me if you see them squat and dead lift heavy poundage ,,infact tell me if you see t hem doing anything heavy at all like the 180lb enthusiastic lifter who just started bodybuild,,you tell me that in few weeks pupils

7. thinking doses do not matter,, this is a very important thign to discuess pupils,, why? because it is not you are what you eat like the saying goes,,,IT IS YOU ARE WHAT YOU DOSE ,,IF YOU PLLAY AROUND WITH 500MG OF TESTOSTERONA YOU WILL ALSO LOOK LIKE THAT AND COMPETE IN THE 190S ,,YES BEFORE SHOW YOU REDUCE DOSES BUT YOU NEVR PLAY WITH LOW DOSE OF TESTOSTERONA UNLESS PRE SHOW!  AND THE MORE ADVANCED YOU BECOME THE MORE TESTOSTERONA YOU CAN PLAY WITH BEFORE SHOW BECAUSE THE MORE YOU KNOW YOUR BODY AND CAN GET THE FINISHING TOUCH WITH ALL TOGETHER NOW....D I U R E T I C

8. we do not take supplements,,we do not take over the counter supplements period,,we dont interested in anything other than drugs performing enhancing drugs in most cases with the good bodybuilders,,and sadly other drugs with the local wanna be 260 blown up insulina crap that sit 10% 260 and on stage look like some 200 lb marshmelow fella

9. thinking legit hormone are available right and left,,
it wil take you a good while lto find your nitch ,,sometims years if you are lonesome and have no connections ,,at times 10 years! ,,the ones who get far have very good connections and they look for it from age 16 in highschool ,,trust me on that friends this is something you got to understand ,,the bunk products on the market are alot more than the legit,,to find a great cook and there are not many but take strango for example,,to even have the ability to have this cook will get you places you never dreamed before,,why because its legit and its high quality ,,this is what make you the bodybuild look like a bodybuild ,,not you playing every night with the bench press and pressing 2 plates inbetween your social interactions


10. most bodybuilder are liars,,they will always ALWAYS lie to your face,,from the olde 50 year old who bench prss 5 plates in the morning crew of 6 am when he say he think about cycle but his wife dont agree to it ,,so he uses pro hormone yet bench 5 plates each side for 8 reps,, to the fitness whore that come into the gym at 11 30 am after a good night sleep of 12 hours and after taking good dose of anavar and clenbuterol to start the day  ... to the nightly creature gym rats who also compete locals that just take anything and everything they can ,bunk ,,legit ,, more bunk than  legit and just tell you to eat 5 times a day lots of beans and chikan and make sure you come to train every day 2 hour ,,bodybuild = liar,,to your face we will lie and do it all the time


this is it those are 10 most common things you need to know it is index for bible

At this point my mind is blown. It all makes sense, but it goes against all the other stuff I've read from "seasoned vets" on other boardings. I had read that trenbolone acetate (gh15's favourite steroid) was dangerous, extremely harmful, could seriously fuck you over, bla bla bla. But here is gh15's take:

WHEN YOU TAKE TRENBOLONA ACE,, THE CHANGES ARE SO FAST ,, THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY YOU WILL SEE A CHANGE,, EVERY WEEK! YOU WILL WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND STAND IN THE MIRROR AND UNDERSTAND FINALY HOW MUCH BALONIE YOU WERE FED ALONG THE YEARS,,

every actor out ther ewho ever got to look or be talked about with regard to muscle went on a combo of propioneta and trenbolona ace,, EVERY SINGLE ACTOR,,

trenbolona ace,, HARDEN YOUR PHYSIQE ,, AND BRING IT INTO A TIGHT POLISHED ,, BRING OUT THE VEINS YOU HAVE,, AND INCREASE MUSCLE AT THE SAME TIME,, NO NOT WET MUSCLE BUT DRYYYYY MUSCLE,, IT CUPP EVERYTHING AND LINE EVERYTHING,, IT GIVE YOUR PHYSIQE A RUGGED LOOK THAT ONLY LOW BODYFAT WITH INCREASED LEAN MUSCLE CAN DO TO A BODYBUILD,,

TRENBOLONA ACE IS THE MAGIC SOLUTION WHEN SOMEONE WANT TO BE IN CONDITION AND IF SOMEONE IS UNDER STRESS,, THIS PRODUCT IS GIVING YOU MUSCLE LEAN MUSCLE BY THE DAYS,, IT TAKE ABOUT 7 DAYS TO START SEEING REAL SERIOUS CHANGES TO QUALITY OF AN ALREADY LEAN PHYSIQE SUB 10% AND THE CHANGES KEEP COMING AND YOU WIL ALWAYS HEAR JUST HOW LEAN YOU ARE AND HOW RIPPED YOU ARE AND THEN HOW SHRED YOU ARE AND NEVER EVER HOW SMALL YOU ARE BECAUS UNLIKE NATURAL WHO LOSE SIZE WHILE GETTING RIPPED THE TRENBOLONA ACE USERS GAIN LEAN MUSCLE AS IN GAIN SIZE AND REMAIN SAME ON SCALE OR MORE! REALLY DEPENDING ON CALORIC INTAKE,,

TRENBOLONA ACE IS A DRUG THAT BRING UPON DENSITY AND TIGHTNESS ,, IT CHANGES THE OUTLOOK OF BODYBUILD ON THE ALLLLL CULT ,, IT IS A DRUG THAT AT 150MG EVERY DAY CREATE HIGH LEVEL COMPETITORS ,, AND IT IS THE ONE DRUG LIAR DANTA AND SONS WILL TRY TO BALONIE YOU ABOUT FROM MORNING TO EVENING BECAUSE THIS DRUG LET YOU BUILD MUSCLE AND RECUDE BODYFAT SAME TIME ON LOWER CALORIC INTAKE TOO!

EVERY BODY HERE ,, MY PUPILS AND EVERYONE WHO COME READ GH15 FROM AROUND THE WORLD,, ANYONE HERE KNOW THE FEELING OF WAKING UP IN THE MORNING AND ENTERING THE BATHROOM ONLY TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SAY FUCK FUCK FUCK I LOOK FLAT I LOOK LIKE NOTHING I LOOK LIKE I DIDNT EAT ENOUGH I LOOK WEAK ,, THIS CLEAN DIET MAKE ME LOOK LIKE SHIT! IT TAKES FEW HOURS LATER...TO BRING UP YOUR MOOD WHEN YOU GET THE PUMP AND SOME SUGAR IN ....WITH TRENBOLONA ACE WHEN YOU ENTER THE BATHROOM IN THE MORNING...AFTER A WHILE ON TRENBOLONA ACE...A WHILE = COUPLE WEEKS FOR LEAN FELLA LOL,, THE BODYBUUILD SEE THE MUSCLE AND SKIN COME TOGETHER AND BEING ONE! HE SEE A FELLA IN THE BATHROOM MIRROR THAT LOOK LIKE MUSCULAR RIPPED BIGGER VERSION OF WHAT HE IS USED TO ! EVENTHOUGH AT TIME THE WEIGHT WILL BE LOWER! THE FELLA IN MIRROR IS SO RIPPED AND SO PUMP FROM WITHIN AS IN FULL THAT....HE LOOK BIGGER,, FIRST THING YOU WILL HEAR FROM FELLAS WHO HAVENT SEEN YOU FOR A WHILE IS,,,HEY YOU GOT BIGGGGGGGER! YOU WILL SAY NO NO BUT THEY WILL BE YOU GOT BIGGER! WHY? BECAUSE YOU GOT LOWER BODYFAT AND MORE SEPERATION AND HIGHER LEAN MUSCLE! THATS WHY YOU TRULY GOT BIGGER,,

FOR FINAL MUTAITION OFCOURSE HGH AND INSULINA A MUST AT THE HIGHER THE DOSES THE BETTER THE MUTATITION WILL BE AS IN HEAVIER AND THAT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN COMPETE NOW DAY WITH THE TOPS BECAUSE YOU CANT GO TO A COMPETITION WITH 250LB FELLAS WHEN YOU ARE 200...KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
legit trenbolona will result in the following ,, be sure you have legit,,

enormous strength ,, and i mean it ENORMOUS strength

imediate fat burning effect like eca but with out the high in the sky weak feeling eca give you in the long run ,, in other word no stringy and no stiffy feeling,, much beter than eca for fat burninng

immediate increase in lean muscle ,, first through hardening and densing of the physiqe you have ,,the fibers will get closer and then will start seperating due to the water going into the muscle and decreasing on the outside of the muscle between skin and muscle ,,

there will be few day confusion where you are not sure what what ,, after 7 days you will know you are a walking invinsible bodybuild,, you will need to start 10% not fat...if you start fat it will all take longer time as in 3-4 months...remember eveyrthing happen in bodybuild because we are already starting lean to some degree as in 10% zone

legit trenbolona ace will be golden yellowish ,, it can be either more yelowish or more golden depending on oxidation and other factors,,but the color is a combo between gold and yellow sometime more yellow sometime more gold but it will have the combo of golden yelow pee to it

legit trenbolona ace will make a fatter fella sweat much more than a lean fella,, lean fella will not sweat as much ,,

legit trenbolona ace will let you eat anything you like and get you from point a to point b ,, no matter how your diet is as long as enough calorie and protien and carb you will get shreded at the end process and reserve all muscle while increasing your lean muscle becaue when you lose fat and dont lose weight...or lose very little weight.....you increased your lean muscle,, it will be seen in the seperation of the muscle and the attachment of the skin to the muscle as in getting the muscle shape ,, skin and muscle become one,, veins will then from day 3 will be popping out more an dmore every single day to places you neevr seen them ,, you will have veins coming theough your body hair even if you are a chimpanzee you will see veins all over with full bodily hair,, you use veet on your body? you will be amazed how ripped you are,, wait with the veet few weeks or couple months so you get a big shock,, put tann on you and you are like a magazine fella in real life face to face ,,

legit trenbolona ace get female to take notice of you ,, suddenly females who would not touch bodybuild...will be attrackted,, if you have wife who dont give you sex or sex is minimal,, while using trenbolona you will see her approching you for sex and wanting to fuck you ,, like when you see a hot girl with perky tits...she will see you like the boy toys she and her friends were all gigling about back in highschool,, she will have sex with you much more and will intitiate it ,, lean fella that hold muscle and get to look ripped but maintain thickness get the most sex from females,, its not up to debate with me this is part of legt trenbolona facts

legit trenbolona will give you a cough spiiting saliva cough if you hit a vessle ,, it will come fast and go within 3-5 min whiel you be coughin and spitting saliva all over the toilet cursing everyone around you actualy you wont be able to talk but after 3 min you will lol it is nothing and common trenbolona hit the vessle reaction made by the tren easter which is ace

legit trenbolona will cause you to itch and get flaky skin ,, some do some dont ,, most do but again its only when hit vessle ...thre actual flaky skin will be for serious bodybuildthat been on tren for long time and on hormones in general for long time

legit trenbolona wil give you insomina and at time paranoia that everyone is after you ,, sometime even bad dreams,, its part of it ,, legit trenbolona is a known insomina causer and you need to know how to control it and sleep even with insomnia ,, you can get tired and regulate your sleep or change work schedule or fit it in no problam ,, whern bodybuild want somethign bodybuild get it

legit trenbolona is the only drug that can not be replaced in bodybuild ,, especialy competetive bodybuild,, but in bodybuild in general you will not be able to get in condition and eat like normal fella UNLESS you are on legit trenbolona ,, even if yuo eat clean legit trenbolona condition will not be there unless you are on trenbolona ,, you will lose lean muscle when not on trenbolona no matter what product you are on ,, even if you use gh and insulina if yuo are not on trenbolona you will lose lean muscle that will not be noticable to begin with but later on it will when tru to get to same condition and see you cant because you missing those 5-7 lb of quality muscle,,

[Swlabr]

already dicusedd how strong this drug is,,it pretty much make fellas with balonie genetic into bodybuilders... that should tell you how strong this drug is...
the doses: ofcourse you can see trenbolona work as low as 50mg every 2 day inject...you surly can,,you will look very good ...yet! with trenbolona unlike! with testosterona...the higher the dose ...the nastier and freakier the bodybuild become..and i mean it! ,, the bodybuild will see changes that he will sacrifice his social life for ...sad but true,,not theat bodybuild have social life but this is another story lol ,,
testosterona...the higher the dose...the bloofier you look unless you have gh running in system...with trenbolona ace...the higher you use the BETTER THE LARGER THE MORE CONDITIONED AND THE MORE S E P E R A T E D you look
while testosterona puff your skin up,, trenbolona ace thin is down ! it eliminate the puffy skin and thus say bye bye to the bloofy look ,,it get the skin to a shrink wraped mode with time! it depends ofcourse on your begginign bodyfat level,, it will be diff for fella like tbom and fella like no one,,tbom it will take months....no one it will take 10 days lol actualy from the first day it will be going visualy its because the body is already in state of anabolizm and low bodyfat with no one and with tbom he has muscle but it is covered with water and fat and in the doubles....never the less tbom will be able to look like competetive bodybuild ...it will only take him another 2 months lol sometime 4-5 if body is realy stubbern and the fella love his ummm i dont know love his goolash and the higher caloric shit foods...still trenbolona wil cut through the fat like knife cut through butter and with months will bring tbom to the single digit and seperated like a competetive bodybuild...not top but competetive to begin with
now,,
the actual changes from tren ace and what to expect:
i will talk about the typical 12-13% bodybuild not the single digit ones becaue the single digit ones are already know everything there is to know,, they may not be profesionals but they been in it for so long they can speak it in their dreams ,, so this is for 12-13% bodyfat rathr than 8%..
this are the changes you will see,,
week 1,, you will feel pumped but insted of bloofy feel of testosterona pump you will have the feeling of pump from the inside of the muscle while the more self knowing individuals who recognize changes fast will notice their face ...yes their face taking a diff look ,,they will be the only ones who notice it ,, it is something you notice personaly since it is only the beggining and no one else that see you will notice ,,they will think you are crazy if you tell them anythign so keep it to yourself,, face iwll start getting the high boxer type of look,,hard to explain ,, it is week one so nothing visual yet aside from pump ...tremendous strength and i mean tremendous! big diff than what you were before ,,and when you will expect to see your midsection bloat...and say something is not right here the belly got to be bloated...you will take your shirt up and notice that no! it is actualy looking tighter!,, yes yes this is week 1! since you are 12% you wont see much more ,,obliqes will start being noticed well and the girl will comliment that this is the area of the body she like the most right before she sucking your cock,, she wil comment on it because she wil be able to see it on you : ),, remember this is after 3-7 injects of trenbolona ace into blood at 100mg every inject
week 2-3
this is when progress being made and you start seeing your body transforms ,, still nothing like a pro bodybuild...nothing like top amatuer....but! you will start noticing that the pecs and delts are seperating,, they reduce fat yet remain full and start getting seperated as in water go into the muscle insted of outside of muscle,, this is a stage where you will still have water between skin and muscle so it wont be to an impressive level seperation wize,,but! the seperation will occure and in this 2-3 weeks try not to be crazy and dont take pictures every day ,, take them few times a weeek not every day you will go nuts,, trenbolona changes are only daily for the single digit fellas and the 8% and under,,so for you since you started 12% and now you are about 10-11.. try to not take many pictures every day because at this bodyfat levels pictures can be deciving ...one time you look great one time you look decent etc ,, not good comparisons,, at the end of this stage you will sit at high single digit sub 10%,, 9-10%
week 4-8...
this is when you will start getting comliments not only on how BIG YOU LOOK but you will start hearing the word LEAN ,, you will walk around and you will hear alot of wondering of how you got so lean ,, no one will say skinny ,, no one will say small ,, they will all use the word LEAN ,, lean this lean that,, still not thickly lean ,, the thickly lean comes little after down the road,, in this stage you get the YOU LOOK LEAN MAN comments,, this is when veins start becoming very visible in places you are not used to while sitting watching tv you will see veins on back of legs on forarms on inside of forarms on arms on traps on chest,, everywhere again it depend on how prone to veins you are but you will see the veins you have enhanced! ,,you will also get more serpeated and it will be to a level that when you take pictures you finaly will decide to keep them and wil feel very bad to delete them because they will look very good
week 9 and on ...
this is what seperate the REAL bodybuild from the wanna be ,, this is where the true mutation coming into play and you really start looking like magazine fella,, it is when you dont need to flex to see the seperated muscle in all its glory ,, it is when you stand and get compliments all over about how YOU ARE BOTH THICK AND LEAN aka YOU GET INTO A ZONE CALLED RIPPED AND THEN A BETTER ZONE CALLED SHREDDED,, those zones are again happeingn for you only after 2-3-4 of constant trenbolona usage because....you were 12-13% to begin with ,, and you had to build the trenbolona ace into blood and work that fat off with out cardio and with out losing even minimal power or muscle,, you also wanted to live normal life and eat pretty normal so this is why it take 2-3-4 months sometimes even 6 months,,
in any case,, at the end of this stage you are a walking bodybuilder that is ready for stage ,, looking 4 weeks out on a regular basis ,, you pretty much look nicely thickly lean ...aka seperated to a very noticable level ,, you get a lot of compliments fellas dont mind complimenting but they need to see something worth complimenting to do so ...and in this stage you wil have it friends,,
this is important stage past the 8th week it is important because the bodybuild start becoming a serious bodybuild and advanced level bodybuild,, this is also a godo time to re introduce gh ....and do them together ,, and cycle testosterona the RIGHT way so you keep getting drier or maintain driness while growing and dont kill the seperations and the lines you created in thsoe 3 months...rememebr even little amount of water kill seperation ,, and testosterona is BIG BIG ENEMY OF SEPERATION BIG BIG BIG ENEMY YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO WORK IT AND YOU NEED HGH WITH IT IF YOU GO HIGH DOSES ,,
equipona wil be very good at this stage with the trenbolona ace and the gh ,,,tstosterona shoudl cycled in and out as in higher doses and then cruising ,, i much prefer you do it with propioneta or phnyl propioneta
now,, this is a program for the average GYM RAT ,, aka someone who want to get into advanced bodybuild,, this is not for already advanced bodybuild,, advanced bodybuild are always lean ,, they never see 10% even when you think they are 10% they are 8% ,, they just hold water and puff themselves up some with balonie they play with ,, rest assuree of that,, so this program is for fellas who start 12-13% even 14% and want to get down to competetive bodyfat,,which is 6% or lower
i wont talk of side effect since i alredy mentioned them in bible million times,, side effect from trenbolona ace = growth ! lean growth! ,, there are soem side effects that fellas have hard time with which i wrote about ,, some fellas cant deal with it ,, mainly mentally ,, but over all ,, trenbolona is HIGHLY HIGLY HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY and then some more highly important to get the look you all desire

Wow. Want to gain an inch on arms? gh15 is quick to point out that will not happen by supersetting curls with cables bla bla bla. Here's how:

many fellas ask reptedly whats secrets i can give to grow arm ,, they want philsulina arm philsulina arm,,

alright,, you ONLY HAVE PHILSULINA ARM IS YOU PUT IN IT DAMN SEO! same for jason arm ,, what i can help yo uwith is to get your arm to 19 inches! of quality!

gh15 is going to lay here a a specific program to gain those 1-2 inches you all want so much afgter you stuck at 17 inches on hormones,, remember we are talking quality 17 inches up to quality 18-19 inches...not balonie fatzos but quality as in SINGLE DIGIT BODYFAT


you first and formost start from SINGLE BODYFAT,, i want each one on this program to be in the singles,, no 12 no 13 thinking you are 9 no! i want you to start at 8% or under,, i dont care if you hold the niagra falls on you ...but the important thing is that you start 8% or under,, now! this is the routine i will specify ...it wont have any marvelous food lol nor will it have any marvelous training execersizes,,,what it wil have in it is HORMONES ,, so get book and pen and start writing,, or in generation nothingness language ...just copy and paste or put on face book ,, anything you want ASIDE FROM PUTTING IT ON DIFF BOARDINGS,, I DONT WANT THIS ON DIFF BOARDINGS!,,they will probbaly steal it but dont make it easy for them ...i dont want my pupils to put it on other boardings,, thank you

ok


you got down to 8% on hormones ofcourse,, so you have subsential size to your arm ,, 17 inch...

now how do you get up in inches? what is the big secret behind it,,

the big secret behind it is hidden in few vials

vial 1 = testosterona no ester also known as suspension ,,

vial 2 = dianabola vial ,, liquid INJECTABLE dianabola or tablets will do too...liquid will be better it wil make you able to pull it much longer in duration of intake and hunger will just go higher and higher

vial 3 human growth hormone

vial 4 = testosterona enantat

vial 5 = equipona

vial 6 = trenbolona ace


i want you to get down to 8% or under with the hgh and trenbolona! then! i want you to take those out! do not use them anymore and insted introduce the following to your blood


testosterona no ester = 50mg a day

dianabola = 25 mg a day

testosterona enantato = 300-600mg every 2-3 day

equipona = 300mg every 2 days

again no! no! hgh and no trenbolona ace,,

now do this for a week you will start seeing your arms growing it wil be in incremenetds of 1/4 of an inch quality growth ,, you can increase tne to 100 mg  a day  as in 50mg 2 times a day and dianabola to 50mg a day as in 25 mg 2 times a day speced evenly

go this way until your body lose some of its sculpting illusion ,, it wont be fast if you are low bodyfat ,,infact you will look more conditioned when gh is out because water will go down ....so you will look more condition but less 3 dimentional,,WAIT WITH THE GH UNTIL the mirror or camera tells you you lose some of the sclpting illusion ...you will see it mainly in the delts...

then! go back on hgh add it....your arms will already be bigger and will be ready for sculpting exlosion and polished tighening done by the gh ....again add the gh only! when you got extra size on the arms! only after....it should be about 2 months break from gh betwen 4 week and 8 week break can be a little less with some

when you intriduce the hgh again you can also add insulina to start creating total mutatiton ...by this time your arms will already have new size on them of about 1/2 an inch to an inch ...the hgh and insulina wil take it past 19 and maybe into the 20s depending ...over that it is usualy very high doses of hgh and insulina and ofcourse seo for 5'8 5'9 and 5'10

ther eis one thing that dont change and it is the testosterona enantato dose...it is alwys 300-600mg every 2 day ...either enantato or sustanona ...but you get the idea..canbe both 1 inject of each,, the rest always change

most important factor that will grow your arms in size will be the addition of testosterona no ester INTO THE BLOOD ALL AT ONCE...and dianabola in an injectable form preferably ,, tabs are ok too  but those 2 are must when you come off trenbolona and hgh...A MUST! testosterona enantato by itself will not make it happen ,, you need all the testosterona at once! into the blood all at once! with no ester attached,, and the dianabol is also into the blood all at once ,, no waiting,,

the above is garenteed extra size on arms,, quality size in a pretty short period of time,, about 2-3 month for extra 1/2 to an inch and 2 inch or over after 6-12 months when gh is reintroduced ,,

this is how you take 17 inch and make them 19 inch my friends,,,not special foods... not special training... no charlie 7 and not hurley 18 ,,

this is it

any question in regarding to this shoudl be put here in the tread not in pms ,, i dont have much time to red pms easy to read the questions here in regarding this

No balonie, straight to the core of it all.

But what if you're poor and can't afford this all? Well, gh15 is here for you again:

this is the meat and potatos phase,, now i will go on starting writing everything you need to listen and follow,,

this is meant for bodybuilders! ,, this is not meant for 15 year old that just enter gymnasium 1 month ago,,

this is a phase 3 of bodybuilder for the poor,, i will bring bring you to the mountain ,, i will help you get to troy alvez type of physiqe! but! from then on you are on your own ,, you will need much more money or sponsor to get to what you see today at the top,, so i will bring you up to 220 6% but from then you are on your own friends,,

phase 1 and 2 are must follow ,, and follow directly as i wrote it there,,yes you can chnage fish type but over all follow directly as i wrote it


ingredients needed,,you will have to put some money investment but since you save on supplmenet you wil have this money,,

again this is a program to follow for the fella with the worst bodybuild genetic out there aka vince goodrum and bring him up to ron heris level,, so if you are better and most likley you are...you will end up looking at the level zoen of troy alvez minus the years of experience and muscle maturity


ingredients

testosterona propioneta 100mg/ml 2 vials

testosterona enantato 250mg/ml or 300mg/ml or 350mg/ml depending on your contact ofcourse and wether human grade or private chef 2 vials

trenbolona ace ,, this is HIGHLY IMPORTANT 100mg per cc  only ace! 2 vials

masterona  100mg per cc  2 vials

equipona 300mg per cc 2 vials

human growth hormone 1 kit 100iu only! **** ! AGAIN ONLY **** GH!

thats it ,, all you need you will need to buy it every single month so this will be an expense of about 500-600 dollaros first time around and then from third month! you will only need to put 300 dollaors a month ,, which is equal to your supplment sepdning,, this is the cheapest it can be to get to advance level bodybuild 300 dollaros every 4-8 weeks is the cheapest possible way to get there i cant get it any cheaper for you im sorry ,, most bodybuild spend 1000s in a matter of a 3 month period thousands of dollars! sometimes surpassing 10 k in a matter of 90 days
so this is not your case...you will need 500-600 for first 2 months and from then on 300 dolaros every month


alright,,

injection should be done every time before bed,,
i also want all injects to be done into the ass right and left cheeks ,, again this is your responsbility to be bodybuilder i write my own opinions and i discuss matters for enterntainment only...

i want you to start within PRIMING YOUR BODY with hgh ,, that mean you will work hgh into your body for 30-60days as a prime 4 iu a day ,, only 4 iu you hear that right just make sure you get **** hgh and no other gh! you want that gh because it is the purest one and you want to get the most out of your gh,, yes you can find other decent and good gh but **** gh never seem to dissapoint for years upon years going already close to 10 years

now,, i want 4 iu into DELTS 2 iu morning when wake up 2 iu night,, yes only this way  and just train ,, do it for 25 days along with equipona at 900mg 3 times a week monday wed friday 300 mg each time that is it! no testosterona yet,, at the end of this 25 days i want you to add trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day! make sure it is LEGIT TRENBOLONA at 100mg every second day and continue with the second kit of gh for another 25 days at 4-5 iu a day 2.5 and 2.5 morning when wake up and night before sleep

now,, at the same time you add trenbolona ace i want you to add propioneta at 50mg! every 2nd to 3rd day depending on your own feeling since i cant see you you will decide but not every day! every second to third day,, 50 mg!

when 50 day mark arrive i want you to take the enantato ,,and do a 3 time weekly injectiong of 300mg each time mon wed and friday,, can also be tuesday thursday and saturday all up to your choice and how you do things and if you are lazy some fellas like to take their sweet time thats how bodybuild do at times,, this will give you 900-1000mg of testosterona enantato a week when you are done 50-60 days of hgh prime ,, with the enantato i want you to INCREASE the trenbolona to 100 mg every day  5 times a week ,, it is NOT easy ! trenbolona ace is very very tricky it works on your brain it change your personality even if you think it doesnt it does ,, it is the strongest personality change hormone out there but it is also a must to achieve any of today condition ,,you need to be careful with it if you can not tolerate every day 100mg you will have to continue every second day 100 mg ,, but if you can then 100mg a day will be better for this phase

so ,, enantato 900-1000 mg a week ...trenbolna ace 100 mg a day or if really cant 100 mg every 2 days,, and! NO ANTI ESTROGENS! i want you to introduce masterona if you have problem with high estrogen after 50 days! you should not have any problem but if you do introduce masterona at 50mg every 2 days! the masterona i stil dont want in only if you suffer from high levels of estrrogen which you shoudl not not even when you get on 1000 mg testosterona yuo still should be ok with estrogen ,,

now the masterona itself i want you to introduce after 3 weeks on enantato at 1000 mg ,,

so what we have until now,,

we have day 51 start,, you go on enantato 900-1000 mg a week,, you still keep equipona at 900 mg ,, you have trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day and after another 3 weeks you add in masterona at 50mg every second day ,, you can! combine injections,, it is all oil shoudl be no problem but it is still usualy 3 injects a week atleast no matter how you do it ,, you want it at 3 day injection a week so its ok ,,

now you will notice that by day 80-90 from your start you pretty much suddenly look like one of the best bodybuilder to ever touch foot in your gymnasium ,, this is in 3 months! you still wont be quality of top bodybuilder due to maturity and experience and time ,, and also due to lack of products notice you are poor! there are some things you can not do like bodybuilder with more money,, but you can defenitely have better quality physiqe than them

so....

day 80-90 you REINTRODUCE HGH to the blood,, do it on day 90 ,, this time you LEAVE testosterona enantato in may even increase it to 1200mg a week dependign on personal choice,, you leave equipona in still 900mg and you take trenbolona ace out! insted of trenbolona ace you bring in anadrola preferebly solution and do 100-150mg every day ,, again preferably injectable!  you can still do orals too,, rememer you take out the trenbolona ace! you do gh again for 30 days this time you do it at 6-8 iu a day only for 30 days! if you can afford 60 it will be better for you but 30 will be ok too ,,you can even inject it every second day! at 6-8 iu a day then a day of no hgh then 8 iu a day then day of no hgh etc etc

you will then approach 120 days which is 4 months since you started and i will want you to start reducing the testosterona doses again ,, i will make phase 4 in next few days to discuss the next steps,,

again the nex phase will involve the possibility of diuretic application and a quick discussion about insulina and why im against it ,, it will also involve what needed to get to the 220 + at cometition condition because all those fellas are addicted to insulina and gh ,, you just dont step on stage 5'7 220 shredded if you are not hgh and insulina addict,, so we will talk abotu it too but again you are poor so i bring you up to 220 6% from then you will either have to find a good job or will have to have help or do something to get the ability to proceed,, most good bodybuilder at 200lb wipe floor with heavier bodybuilders...especialy if in light heavy classes ,, so its not that bad to get up to 200 210 220 6% my friends,, and this is the way you do it ,,

few things,,

you never give up! no matter what you see in the mirror after 11 days ,, you dont just say oh im tired of this,, you will see a lot in the mirror after lefit gh been in your blood for 11 days but! 11 days is not enough time to create body compsition change it takes some more time,, this is 120 days here that you should start ,, then will go to phase 4 which will polish the physiqe and bring it to competition level ,, not stage ready but pretty much 2 weeks out ,, i dont think yuo need it for every day life....but in general if you can get to look 200+ 6% on every day life at 5'10 or under no one will mistaken you for anything other than bodybuilder and you will be the best in your city in most cases,,

good luck to all ,,

phase 4 will come in few days

sealed bible index,,


gh15 approved

[goomba420]

hasnt he promised phase 4 for a couple months now? 

[the trainer]

dont you worry I am gh15 replacement and i am here to help you i will turn you into big guy.

[Metabolic]

 

[Swlabr]

His advice took me from 180 lbs @ 8% to 210 lbs @ 7% with infinitely less effort and mental agony. Only yesterday I squatted 440 for 2 reps after 405 for 6. Numbers I could only have dreamed of a year ago, and without gh15 I would still be counting raisins and milligrams of testosterone.

Thank you, gh15, for everything you've helped me with.

P.S. For those who call him a source, trust me, he isn't. I've forgotten the number of times I begged him to refer me to a good source, and every single time I asked I got ignored.

[Swlabr]

hasnt he promised phase 4 for a couple months now? 

It won't be on getbig, it will be on the gh15 website that will be released in theatres near you very soon.

[Jaime]

That first bit of advice flies in the face of every scientific study i have seen.

Did you ever stop to think that most normal people don't want to constantly be on drugs?

It's not needed and it's where natural base and genetics come in. You train like a pussy and aren't meant to carry muscle you will lose size.

Everything else sounds sensible for the most part, nothing ground breaking but decent info.

[Swlabr]

Nothing ground breaking? Okay, Jaime, how about you tell me what you would tell a guy who has thick skin and wants to do something about it.

[purenaturalstrength]

i can relate with this beyond obsession crap

i sometimes sit in the locker room at work calculating percentages pondering about how much weight to lift next time i work out

[makaveli25]

Great thread man. I think we have all picked up some really good tips over the years from gh15. I never fuck with pct anymore what a waste of time. The whole 12 weeks test 30mg of dbol haha I did that for years never got me anywhere. You guys are lucky you have this information at such a young age. You think any of those dickhead vets on the steroid boards actually practice what they preach. NOPE!

[Swlabr]

i can relate with this beyond obsession crap

i sometimes sit in the locker room at work calculating percentages pondering about how much weight to lift next time i work out

I had a spreadsheet, lol. I squatted 3 times/week, wrecked my back in the process. I would literally be depressed for days if I didn't hit the numbers I had on my spreadsheet. It's really not a good way to spend life.

Nowadays I shoot tren 2 hours PWO (2 hours is the magic spot, I think), go in and lift some heavy fucking weights even while dieting.

[Jaime]

Nothing ground breaking? Okay, Jaime, how about you tell me what you would tell a guy who has thick skin and wants to do something about it.

I don't know i haven't got thick skin, it's not something i have ever looked in to or talked about much.

Most people mistake water retention for skin thickness.

Most of that info is legit but it's a lot of words and tangents based around simple concepts.

Tren=lean quality tight muscle.

Test=thickness/bloofyness potential.

GH=Unlocking full potentiality of hormones.

Shit like that. It's all basic info put in to romantic form for kids. Mutate,shrink wrapped, tight ,full, pussy's wet lol All just buzz words.

The first segment is completely fucking flawed.


Other than that if it helps people it's cool.

[dustin]

Awesome, man! Thanks for hunting down all those great posts. gh15 is becoming a lot bigger in Canada and fellas are following his advices and saving money and time by not dicking around. gh15 cuts to the chase without misleading people. It is basically all drugs, but there are important small details which compound and help you to progress exponentially versus doing shit completely wrong (aka magazine advices).

[purenaturalstrength]

I had a spreadsheet, lol. I squatted 3 times/week, wrecked my back in the process. I would literally be depressed for days if I didn't hit the numbers I had on my spreadsheet. It's really not a good way to spend life.

Nowadays I shoot tren 2 hours PWO (2 hours is the magic spot, I think), go in and lift some heavy fucking weights even while dieting.

i still squat 3 times a week

anything less and i'm losing strength it sucks i hate it but i cant agree with less strength


i never bought into the spreadsheets those things are wildly unrealistic

[dj181]

P.S. For those who call him a source, trust me, he isn't. I've forgotten the number of times I begged him to refer me to a good source, and every single time I asked I got ignored.

maybe he just didn't want to implicate himself

[Jaime]

maybe he just didn't want to implicate himself

He basically says buy as much gear as possible and avoid everything else and mentions sources.

Genetics don't matter.

Training doesn't matter.

Nutrition doesn't matter.

He never talks about moderate doses.

Would not surprise me if the people running the account were getting money from sources for exposure.

Clear agenda.

[da_vinci]

Lol at these who say "its nothing new".. Yeah, right.. I can just imagine how mad must be some fellas who take money for the "drug advice" and "training", when all this stuff is here for everyone to learn.

[da_vinci]

He basically says buy as much gear as possible and avoid everything else and mentions sources.

Genetics don't matter.

Training doesn't matter.

Nutrition doesn't matter.

He never talks about moderate doses.

Would not surprise me if the people running the account were getting money from sources for exposure.

Clear agenda.

I know a fella which get outlifted by novice lifters, who has been in the game for about 25years, tho' is jacked and big. He still doesn't know much about training or eating, bt you know what? Dude has been on hormones almost non-stop for a few decades. Simple as that. Yet he sells protein powders and makes "training programs" for naive fellas too lol..

[Jaime]

I know a fella which get outlifted by novice lifters, who has been in the game for about 25years, tho' is jacked and big. He still doesn't know much about training or eating, bt you know what? Dude has been on hormones almost non-stop for a few decades. Simple as that. Yet he sells protein powders and makes "training programs" for naive fellas too lol..

I didn't say there weren't other kunts out their with agenda's.

The whole industry is based on tricking money out of people.

[dustin]

I didn't say there weren't other kunts out their with agenda's.

The whole industry is based on tricking money out of people.

This sentence IS the entire industry. Fucking sickening.

There are always snakes in the grass but you wouldn't expect an ENTIRE industry to be completely full, 100% full, of fucking deceptive, cock sucking snakes.

[g101]

This sentence IS the entire industry. Fucking sickening.

There are always snakes in the grass but you wouldn't expect an ENTIRE industry to be completely full, 100% full, of fucking deceptive, cock sucking snakes.

disgusting cult feeding off of young gullible bodybuilders

this needs to end

[chaos]

His advice took me from 180 lbs @ 8% to 210 lbs @ 7% with infinitely less effort and mental agony. Only yesterday I squatted 440 for 2 reps after 405 for 6. Numbers I could only have dreamed of a year ago, and without gh15 I would still be counting raisins and milligrams of testosterone.

Thank you, gh15, for everything you've helped me with.

P.S. For those who call him a source, trust me, he isn't. I've forgotten the number of times I begged him to refer me to a good source, and every single time I asked I got ignored.

This all means jack shit unless you post before/after pics to back it up.

[g101]

This all means jack shit unless you post before/after pics to back it up.

 

[Ron]

Like GH15 or not, he did help quite a few people into thinking about getting in shape, or did - whether or not is info was correct or not, it was always up to the person to view it as entertainment or positive role thinking.