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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2012, 11:18:41 AM »
tebow would do well in new england.  Keep his head down and put in the work behind brady.  use him in other positions and on a few trick plays.  

Belichick would use him wisely and would NOT be a slave to tebow-mania like they were in Denver.  Belichik will give the finger to fans demanding they bench brady lol.

Why were the Broncos "slave" to Tebowmania again?

Let's see: You're 1-4; your team's going nowhere. You have a first-round draft pick sitting on the bench, backing a re-tread QB who's done ZILCH for your squad.

You get Tebow the nod and, for all his flaws, he gets you a division title and a playoff win against last year's AFC champs.

So, instead of developing this guy for the future, you ditch him for a guy who is a future Hall-of-Famer but is a sneeze away from being in a wheelchair. There's a reason the Colts didn't give him the $28 million and let him walk.

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2012, 11:26:17 AM »

i agree if Denver puts all there eggs in one basket with manning and he does go down they are screwed...

T-Bow on other hand was briefly successful due to the lack of film on him. people know how to plan for him... he is garbage.

There was plenty of film on him. Remember that Minnesota game? Jared Allen nearly exploded after that two-point conversion play. Everybody and their mama knew it was a QB draw to Tebow. Tebow still made the play.

Tebow needs more development and a veteran QB as a mentor. Manning would have been perfect for him.


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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2012, 11:27:29 AM »
elway looked at the schedule - something like TEN top QBs that tebow wasn't going to beat.  

he got very lucky last year.   PIT was totally injured on the defensive side, hence the playoff win.

Defenses know how to get him now.  Make him go left and make him throw.  He's inneffective now.  An average backup.  He'll sell jerseys and will be a great tight end to knock people down.  But throwing the ball ain't his thing.

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2012, 11:30:39 AM »
Josh McDaniels is the offensive coordinator in NE.  He drafted tebow 15th.  he would love to have him.  

Watcn and see.  Brady goes down with an injury and Tebow lucks his way to a super bowl win  ;D

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2012, 11:33:33 AM »
elway looked at the schedule - something like TEN top QBs that tebow wasn't going to beat.  

he got very lucky last year.   PIT was totally injured on the defensive side, hence the playoff win.

Defenses know how to get him now.  Make him go left and make him throw.  He's inneffective now.  An average backup.  He'll sell jerseys and will be a great tight end to knock people down.  But throwing the ball ain't his thing.

He went left and threw against Pittsburgh and shredded the Steelers to pieces. He did the same thing to the Bears, Vikings, and Jets.

The key is PENETRATION. As those aforementioned teams learned the hard way, if you get Tebow DOWN and he gets free, there are going to be guys down the field WIDE OPEN and if Tebow hits them....GOOD NIGHT!!

If Alex Smith can turn it around, then Tebow ,with the right mentor and coach, can become LETHAL in the NFL.


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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2012, 11:36:50 AM »
He went left and threw against Pittsburgh and shredded the Steelers to pieces. He did the same thing to the Bears, Vikings, and Jets.

The key is PENETRATION. As those aforementioned teams learned the hard way, if you get Tebow DOWN and he gets free, there are going to be guys down the field WIDE OPEN and if Tebow hits them....GOOD NIGHT!!


Ah now we see the root of all your Tebow love.

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2012, 11:38:35 AM »
GUESS WE WILL SEE HOW SUCCESSFUL TBOW IS..... HARD TO USE SUCCESSFUL WITH TBOW IN THE SAME SENTENCE..... ;D  THE NFL IS A PASSING LEAGUE NOT THE SPREAD OFFENSE LIKE URBAN MADE IT.

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2012, 11:39:58 AM »
Ah now we see the root of all your Tebow love.

No, we see you're projecting again. Is there something you'd like to tell the group? I'm talking about football, here

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2012, 11:41:55 AM »
Rumor has it, he is headed to Jacksonville Jags.  They wanted him originally being close to Gainesville.

Not sure about slot reciever, but tightend and use him like they do Hernandez at New England, move him around.

This.

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2012, 11:42:16 AM »
vince young was successful too - early on.  

once tebow gets a few dings, he can't move like that anymore.  At his absolute fastest, a D playing great, and a ton of luck, he got that streak.  But he was entirely average at the end of the year.  He "shredded" Pitt - ?  - Overtime and he got damn lucky.  Their schedule is VERY tough this year.  Manning will have his hands full.  Tebow woudl be 3-13.

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2012, 11:45:05 AM »
GUESS WE WILL SEE HOW SUCCESSFUL TBOW IS..... HARD TO USE SUCCESSFUL WITH TBOW IN THE SAME SENTENCE..... ;D  THE NFL IS A PASSING LEAGUE NOT THE SPREAD OFFENSE LIKE URBAN MADE IT.

Quarterbacks are judged, by wins and losses. Last season, Tebow went 7-4 as a starter, won the AFC West, and won his first playoff game against the defending AFC champions.

Not bad for a guy, who just got a full season of football under his belt.

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2012, 11:49:45 AM »
Quarterbacks are judged, by wins and losses. Last season, Tebow went 7-4 as a starter, won the AFC West, and won his first playoff game against the defending AFC champions.

Not bad for a guy, who just got a full season of football under his belt.

Do you seriously think Tebow would win 70% of his games this year?



Denver Broncos vs.
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Denver Broncos vs.
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Denver Broncos vs.
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Oakland Raiders vs.
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Kansas City Chiefs vs.
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San Diego Chargers vs.
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Cleveland Browns vs.
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Pittsburgh Steelers vs.
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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2012, 11:54:54 AM »
Do you seriously think Tebow would win 70% of his games this year?



Denver Broncos vs.
 Oakland Raiders

Denver Broncos vs.
 Kansas City Chiefs
 
Denver Broncos vs.
 San Diego Charger

Denver Broncos vs.
 Baltimore Ravens
 
Denver Broncos vs.
 Cincinnati Bengals
 
Denver Broncos vs.
 Atlanta Falcons

Denver Broncos vs.
 Carolina Panthers
 
Denver Broncos vs.
 Houston Texans

Oakland Raiders vs.
 Denver Broncos
 
Kansas City Chiefs vs.
 Denver Broncos
 
San Diego Chargers vs.
 Denver Broncos
 
Cleveland Browns vs.
 Denver Broncos
 
Pittsburgh Steelers vs.
 Denver Broncos

New Orleans Saints vs.
 Denver Broncos
 
Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs.
 Denver Broncos
 
New England Patriots vs.
 Denver Broncos
 

It's possible. Keep in mind the fluidity of the NFL. There are always teams that make the playoffs one year that don't the next. Denver itself was one of those teams. Tebow was 3-1 against the division.


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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2012, 11:55:32 AM »
It's possible. Keep in mind the fluidity of the NFL. There are always teams that make the playoffs one year that don't the next. Denver itself was one of those teams. Tebow was 3-1 against the division.



With a Healthy Running game, I pick Oakland to win the AFC west this year... Of course, with Manning at the helm, that can all change.


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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2012, 11:57:26 AM »
Quarterbacks are judged, by wins and losses. Last season, Tebow went 7-4 as a starter, won the AFC West, and won his first playoff game against the defending AFC champions.

Not bad for a guy, who just got a full season of football under his belt.



teams are judged by wins and losses not individuals.. listen I hope Tebow does well but the odds are stacked against him... he isn't NFL material. college level to NFL level is a brutal step. Tebow will get hurt and his career will be over.... Vick began to notice this and he reinvented himself

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2012, 11:59:11 AM »
With a Healthy Running game, I pick Oakland to win the AFC west this year... Of course, with Manning at the helm, that can all change.



If Jason Campbell were still Oakland's QB, I'd agree with you. But with Palmer, throwing picks left and right, I don't think Oakland can overcome that.

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2012, 12:00:53 PM »
If Jason Campbell were still Oakland's QB, I'd agree with you. But with Palmer, throwing picks left and right, I don't think Oakland can overcome that.
Campbell?

He's terrible. Now that Palmer has a good running game and will have a full schedule to work with, I think he's going to be good.


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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2012, 12:16:32 PM »
Campbell?

He's terrible. Now that Palmer has a good running game and will have a full schedule to work with, I think he's going to be good.



The Raiders were on top of the division, when Campbell was the starter. His injury is the only reason Oakland traded for Palmer.

And, it was Palmer, throwing picks like no tomorrow, that helped Denver overtake Oakland to win the division.


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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2012, 12:22:39 PM »
teams are judged by wins and losses not individuals.. listen I hope Tebow does well but the odds are stacked against him... he isn't NFL material. college level to NFL level is a brutal step. Tebow will get hurt and his career will be over.... Vick began to notice this and he reinvented himself

When you win division titles and playoff games in the NFL, you are NFL material. Tebow has done that.

What you said about Tebow was said about Vick. But, Vick is still playing and he got to develop behind McNabb, with a QB coach like Reid.


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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2012, 12:24:00 PM »
He went left and threw against Pittsburgh and shredded the Steelers to pieces. He did the same thing to the Bears, Vikings, and Jets.

The key is PENETRATION. As those aforementioned teams learned the hard way, if you get Tebow DOWN and he gets free, there are going to be guys down the field WIDE OPEN and if Tebow hits them....GOOD NIGHT!!

If Alex Smith can turn it around, then Tebow ,with the right mentor and coach, can become LETHAL in the NFL.



They were banged up.  He's not an NFL qb man. 

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2012, 12:29:50 PM »
If verified...stupid move. Should have went with the Dome in AZ...He's a dome QB..played in one his entire career.  He's going to hate it there.

He's 3-0 in Denver

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2012, 12:50:12 PM »
They were banged up.  He's not an NFL qb man.  

Denver was banged up, too. Dakwins, OUT! Moreno, OUT!, Their starting center, OUT! Decker, OUT (early 1st quarter).

Bottom line is Tebow carved Pittsburgh up like a Thanksgiving turkey. They blitzed but didn't get to Tebow and there were dudes WIDE OPEN, 40+ yards down field.

Division title, playoff win, in his second year in the league (after the team was 1-4, prior to his getting the start).

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2012, 01:27:39 PM »
Denver was banged up, too. Dakwins, OUT! Moreno, OUT!, Their starting center, OUT! Decker, OUT (early 1st quarter).

Bottom line is Tebow carved Pittsburgh up like a Thanksgiving turkey. They blitzed but didn't get to Tebow and there were dudes WIDE OPEN, 40+ yards down field.

Division title, playoff win, in his second year in the league (after the team was 1-4, prior to his getting the start).
There's a big difference between winning a wild card game and being capable of going deeper in the playoffs.  Tebow is a one trick pony, the elite teams will always have an answer for him like the Patriots did last year. 

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2012, 01:37:06 PM »
There's a big difference between winning a wild card game and being capable of going deeper in the playoffs.  Tebow is a one trick pony, the elite teams will always have an answer for him like the Patriots did last year. 

My question is this, didn't the elite teams have an answer for 80% of the league, but I do not hear them blaming one player for the teams downfall?

Was it Tebow guarding those tightends that Brady seemed to be playing throw and catch with in the first half?  Was it Tebow blocking Spikes when he broke his ribs?

Is Tebow perfect?  No, but can he play, hell yea!

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Re: ESPN: Peyton Manning to sign with Denver Broncos
« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2012, 01:38:10 PM »
Josh McDaniels is the offensive coordinator in NE.  He drafted tebow 15th.  he would love to have him.  

Watcn and see.  Brady goes down with an injury and Tebow lucks his way to a super bowl win  ;D

New England is the ultimate "system" NFL team. They certainly aren't going to change their system around to accommodate Tebow as a QB if Brady got hurt...Hell, NE's two back up QB's are better than half the starters on every other team now. And Tebow's ego is too huge to not play QB in the NFL...