GH15 - Do I have potential?

[MAXX]

you look like a natty. hope this helps

[D.O.U.P]

train hard yes.... but training your ass off will get you nowhere.... great way to get injuries....
also strict diet? please.... bullshit.... the RIGHT PRODUCTS! offcourse one should eat good healthy foods... with a little more protein.... but strict?? why? life = 2SHORT!!
all these years that i wasted away with eating "strict" , only to be bloofy and bloated.... lol!
always eating strict will cause your metabolism to go lazy.... you need some "dirty" foods....
also it is boring as hell! and you miss out on life.... waste of time!
save the strict dieting for the final few weeks.....

he did not start lean... mistake number one....
he does not know his body , and how to eat .... mistake number 2
he is stubborn, and delusional... mistake number 3
he is caught up in numbers... mistake number 4


now.... ALL of these things he can change.....
start getting lean....
get to know your body, see what kind of foods it likes... experiment a little.... but you need to get lean first... so you can see the little changes different foods make in your body. because now you will not see them because of the blubber ... lol!
stop being stubborn and delusional... accept the fact your fat... no shame in that because that can be delt with bro...!
the pic of your abs and thighs... when i think away the blubber on your stomach... you do not have a awefull frame bro... really...
throw away that scale , that says you are 250.... he is lying to you.... do not listen to family and friends.... you do not look big and buff right now! do not look and numbers and weight... means fuck all!!
GO BY THE MIRROR!!!!

- stop eating to much.... go eat 3 healthy meals a day.... when hungry get a protein rich snack...
you do not need 300 grams of protein a day.... all bullshit!! also limit carbs a bit.. and when you eat carbs do it around your workouts...

- do some cardio... first thing in the morning , on empty stomach... normally a bb does not need cardio, but you do at this stage....- ditch the mast... no sense in using that now.... up the tren.... lower test to 50mg eod....
these 2 products are enough now.... ideally hgh would help, but you are very young so i think you can do without.. for now....

- no need for clen/t3 and all the fatburning things... you need to do this on your own...(well almost on your own lol!!) the tren will help you enough.... all these fatburners are temporary fixes anyway, for prep only.... you will have rebounds from them....

- just do that until you reach about 9/10%... then it's time to switch products so you get a new boost....

it's no rocket science...  

YES!

[OptimusPrime1980]

YES!

lol! 

[Donny]

shut up, PANSY .... 

yes but i love my liver the way it is. I do understand that some younger men want to do the drug thing..your choice. well guys think about your later years because i really have known guys who did drugs and later they looked like skinny wimps who had health problems. Donīt want to slag anyone off..itīs your Health.

[OptimusPrime1980]

yes but i love my liver the way it is. I do understand that some younger men want to do the drug thing..your choice. well guys think about your later years because i really have known guys who did drugs and later they looked like skinny wimps who had health problems. Donīt want to slag anyone off..itīs your Health.

lol.... your liver??
the liver will regenerate itself... it can take a lot bro....
and if one gets his bp in check kidneys are fine to....
one can use PED's responsable you know??
i take it you do not smoke? never drink ? never eat junkfood? do not have unprotected sex? never drive a car? never travel by plane? etc etc... well i guess you get my point by now.... 

i to knew plenty of guys always thinking about their later years.... only to miss out on life...
and they did never reach their "later years" lol... car accidents, one drowned, cancer etc etc...
we die.... all of us.... one day it's over.... might as well enjoy yourself.... and do what you feel makes you happy...
steroids is just another small risk.... smoking is way worse!

[ChevChelios]

Agreed,smoking,alchohol,eating junkie fast-food all day,they are all more dangerous than roids.And by roids i mean responsible taking of ped,not taking 2 grams of orals couple on months straight.

But no,average joe,that stupid average joe smokes,drinks etc,everyone see that normal,yet some kiddo wants to make some gains and use ped's,oh boy,what a crime,horrible thing,he will have problems,no kids,get bald soon,all those stupid myth's of normal people 

[apply85]

People eat too much, so true.

One of the dumbest things i ever heard was this:

I'm eating some chicken and rice at a party about 15 years ago...I'm about 215 at the time and lean. A good friend of mine, a fellow lifter, comes up to me and says, "you gotta stop eating that shit...eat more red meat, milk ,cheese....and eat BIG.....what would you rather look like? a chicken or a cow?"

I didn't even respond, the statement was so stupid

you ever tell the truth?

back on tren ace after 8 weeks off

last time i took it, my appetite disappeared and when I did eat..I craved carbs.....sweets mostly, I ate like shit and still leaned oiut

anybody else go through this?

i'm going to force myself to eat more calories and  protein this time out and hopefully grow more, I just recomped last time....I would like a bit more size.

[animal1991]

bro, i have been using steroids from when i was around 19 years old.... i concieved my daughter ON cycle....
if you want to get the misses pregnant... HCG....

Yeah, but you know how woman are. They always think the worst and she believed everything the urologist we went to see said and he over exaggerated so much. He said cycling is like hitting your balls with a hammer. It "fucks them up".

[Donny]

Please do not calle me Dude...you are i take it a boy. Speak to me when you are a man.

[Donny]

Yeah, but you know how woman are. They always think the worst and she believed everything the urologist we went to see said and he over exaggerated so much. He said cycling is like hitting your balls with a hammer. It "fucks them up".

listen to the EXPERT and see what happens later if you do drugs. I mean when you are older most guys are happy to be fit and healthy. His theory is so dumb.

[animal1991]

listen to the EXPERT and see what happens later if you do drugs. I mean when you are older most guys are happy to be fit and healthy. His theory is so dumb.

I'd rather not take the risk of not having kids instead of regretting it later. Kids is more important to me than a few lbs of muscle.
Sounds stupid but I have some priorities

[OptimusPrime1980]

Please do not calle me Dude...you are i take it a boy. Speak to me when you are a man.

i am making a wild guess here.... and assume you are talking to me???
put on your glasses grandpa.... so you can find the "quote" button..... you know , so we can know who you are talking to...
also read my post again, this time with your glasses on , so you can see i never called you dude.....
i said bro, a commonly used word here on getbig...

and why do you assume i am a kid???
i am a man... 32 years old... single father, raising a little girl... so hardly a kid...
any more questions old geezer?

[OptimusPrime1980]

I'd rather not take the risk of not having kids instead of regretting it later. Kids is more important to me than a few lbs of muscle.
Sounds stupid but I have some priorities

how many kids does Ronnie have??
how many kids does Dorian have??
how many kids does Dex have?
how many kids does Quincy have?
how many kids does Gunther have??
etc etc etc ...
you get my point i take it?

and your girl has got you wipped man....
you should have had the balls to step up and tell her not to be a whiny "person" ( i won't call your girl the b-word... lol!!)
also you should have went into a discussion with the doc.... always fun.... because if they are not an endo they do not know a whole lot about PED's....

[Donny]

i am making a wild guess here.... and assume you are talking to me???
put on your glasses grandpa.... so you can find the "quote" button..... you know , so we can know who you are talking to...
also read my post again, this time with your glasses on , so you can see i never called you dude.....
i said bro, a commonly used word here on getbig...

and why do you assume i am a kid???
i am a man... 32 years old... single father, raising a little girl... so hardly a kid...
any more questions old geezer?

well you knew who i was talking too..did you not. Well then if you have the ripe age of 32 then act it and do not call me dude OK. gets on my fucking tits. As to your advice, think about your own life and your child as you wrote. spend the drug money on better things.

[animal1991]

how many kids does Ronnie have??
how many kids does Dorian have??
how many kids does Dex have?
how many kids does Quincy have?
how many kids does Gunther have??
etc etc etc ...
you get my point i take it?

and your girl has got you wipped man....
you should have had the balls to step up and tell her not to be a whiny "person" ( i won't call your girl the b-word... lol!!)
also you should have went into a discussion with the doc.... always fun.... because if they are not an endo they do not know a whole lot about PED's....

Yeah I get your point bud, but I don't know how to approach the subject. Its a sensitive subject to discuss with her. I have mentioned of just going on hcg etc but she would rather listen to the urologist

[ChevChelios]

I tell you what,first you look like a greek statue,then you pop some proviron and fuck the shit out of her for couple of weeks,theeeen,you approach and give examples of bodybuilder with kids etc etc,tell her about huge amounts they take,that you take small doses and breaks etc etc.

MOST IMPORTANT

YOU LIE TO HER OF COURSE! 

[deceiver]

well you knew who i was talking too..did you not. Well then if you have the ripe age of 32 then act it and do not call me dude OK. gets on my fucking tits. As to your advice, think about your own life and your child as you wrote. spend the drug money on better things.

You do know that steroids are very cheap? Also, do you acknowledge that there is a world of difference between use and abuse of steroids? There is a way to use steroids responsibly.

Anyway, I do realise you're a troll animal1991 but I'm gonna swallow the bait anyway and tell you sad truth about women... They are not worth it.

[OptimusPrime1980]

well you knew who i was talking too..did you not. Well then if you have the ripe age of 32 then act it and do not call me dude OK. gets on my fucking tits. As to your advice, think about your own life and your child as you wrote. spend the drug money on better things.

lol... do i need to tell you again that i did not call you DUDE ... i said BRO....
that is commonly used here....
you really need glasses grandpops!
and i will call you whatever i want... ok? wacha gonna do pops?

my life is fine...... and my little girl as well....
what i spend my money on is my business... as long as my girl has food, goes to college, has clothes to wear, and is healthy and happy....
steroids are dirtcheap anyway....

about my advice.... do you know where you are, grandpa? your are at a bb forum...
we give people info on bb ... and how to get to a certain level....  and since bb = all drugs we give drug info.... honest and sound info...
now if you do not like this , and do not want to take  drugs FINE...whatever makes you happy.
just shut the fuck up and go and post on menshealth.com or something.....
why are you here??
you obviously have NO CLUE about PED's and yet are telling people not to do them.... on a BODYBUILDING forum... lol..

get real,  DUDE!!

[animal1991]

Anyway, I do realise you're a troll animal1991 but I'm gonna swallow the bait anyway and tell you sad truth about women... They are not worth it.

I can promise you I'm not trolling and if it looks like that I apologise, it was truelly not my intention.
I just came here for advice, not to be funny and seek attention.

[OptimusPrime1980]

Yeah I get your point bud, but I don't know how to approach the subject. Its a sensitive subject to discuss with her. I have mentioned of just going on hcg etc but she would rather listen to the urologist

look at chev's post ...great advice!

second wtf were you doing at the urologist anyway
std? prostate problems?
no, your girl dragged you there, right???
you are wipped! lol...
be a man for gods sakes.....
i have always been honest with the woman i was serious with..... they knew from day one i used drugs.
usually on the first date... when we got to my place or hers.. i would get out my syringe and pin right in front of her.... breaks the ice.... lol.... when asked i told her very relaxed what i was doing and why.... like it was the most normal thing in the world...
so really they could never ask me to stop, they knew what they were dealing with....
and i will never change who i am for a woman.... a good woman will love you, even if she doesn't agree....

[animal1991]

look at chev's post ...great advice!

second wtf were you doing at the urologist anyway
std? prostate problems?
no, your girl dragged you there, right???
you are wipped! lol...
be a man for gods sakes.....
i have always been honest with the woman i was serious with..... they knew from day one i used drugs.
usually on the first date... when we got to my place or hers.. i would get out my syringe and pin right in front of her.... breaks the ice.... lol.... when asked i told her very relaxed what i was doing and why.... like it was the most normal thing in the world...
so really they could never ask me to stop, they knew what they were dealing with....
and i will never change who i am for a woman.... a good woman will love you, even if she doesn't agree....

We went there to here about fertility etc on drugs and he only talked shit anyway.
And I had low test before the cycle and my parents struggled to have kids so that complicates shit even more.

[Donny]

look at chev's post ...great advice!

second wtf were you doing at the urologist anyway
std? prostate problems?
no, your girl dragged you there, right???
you are wipped! lol...
be a man for gods sakes.....
i have always been honest with the woman i was serious with..... they knew from day one i used drugs.
usually on the first date... when we got to my place or hers.. i would get out my syringe and pin right in front of her.... breaks the ice.... lol.... when asked i told her very relaxed what i was doing and why.... like it was the most normal thing in the world...
so really they could never ask me to stop, they knew what they were dealing with....
and i will never change who i am for a woman.... a good woman will love you, even if she doesn't agree....

like the Guy said "BE A MAN".. a guy who talks BS about YOUR health.

[OptimusPrime1980]

like the Guy said "BE A MAN".. a guy who talks BS about YOUR health.

i have a daughter.... conceived while on cycle even!
many friends of mine did the same thing....
there is a reason testosterone failed as a male contraceptive ....

again you do not know enough about the subject to have an opinion dude.....so please inform yourself first, dude ....

get real, DUDE 

[OptimusPrime1980]

We went there to here about fertility etc on drugs and he only talked shit anyway.
And I had low test before the cycle and my parents struggled to have kids so that complicates shit even more.

aren't you like just 20 or something??
and your girl drags you to an urologist?
man , you are WIPPED!!!! big time....

i am with deceiver on this one.. i just smell TROLLs.......
but you're a funny one i'll give you that!
 

[Donny]

i have a daughter.... conceived while on cycle even!
many friends of mine did the same thing....
there is a reason testosterone failed as a male contraceptive ....

again you do not know enough about the subject to have an opinion dude.....so please inform yourself first, dude ....

get real, DUDE  

i find you funny