Author Topic: I see. Libs only want freedom of speech when it benefits them. Oh the hypocrisy!  (Read 7288 times)

Al Doggity

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lol.  Are you serious?  That's it?  Where was the Media Matters campaign to get Shultz off the air?  Where were the boycotts?  Pressure on advertisers? 

Like I said earlier:

Well, Ed called Laura a "talk slut". And it didn't carry over for several days. And he wasn't misrepresenting a position of her's out of malice.  And he ended up taking a week of unpaid leave. And he apologized on-air the following day.The two events weren't really comparable.

Once again, there were major differences between the two events.

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Like I said earlier:

Once again, there were major differences between the two events.

There is always a difference in the mind of a leftist looking to excuse away the same behavior they attack others over.   Nothing new, same bullshit as always from the leftists.     


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Why is it slander when she flat out lied and said she needed 3000 worth of birth control to cover her needs?   The logical assumption that any reasonable person would make was that she was having insane amounts of sex other guys.   

You actually have to be completely illogical to make that assumption.

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There is always a difference in the mind of a leftist looking to excuse away the same behavior they attack others over.   Nothing new, same bullshit as always from the leftists.     



No, it's not a matter of left vs. right. Regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum, you have to be completely obtuse not to see the differences between the two.

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You actually have to be completely illogical to make that assumption.

Why? 

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Like I said earlier:

Once again, there were major differences between the two events.

He called her a "slut" and a "talk slut."  There is zero difference between the two events, other than the reaction of liberals.  Typical liberal hypocrisy.  

And where was the Media Matters campaign?  Is it limited to the blurb you posted?  

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No, it's not a matter of left vs. right. Regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum, you have to be completely obtuse not to see the differences between the two.

yeah ok - just like Mahr is different, chris mattews, et al, always an excuse from the lovable tolerant open minded leftists who do exactly the same thing they attack others over.  

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yeah ok - just like Mahr is different, chris mattews, et al, always an excuse from the lovable tolerant open minded leftists who do exactly the same thing they attack others over.  

Mahr has actually lost a show based on public reaction to some of the things he's said. And there have been plenty on the right who have said things way worse than either Rush, Mahr, or Matthews and kept their jobs. Michael Savage's show, for instance,  is basically his campaign for the undisputed title of "Scum of the Earth".

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Mahr has actually lost a show based on public reaction to some of the things he's said. And there have been plenty on the right who have said things way worse than either Rush, Mahr, or Matthews and kept their jobs. Michael Savage's show, for instance,  is basically his campaign for the undisputed title of "Scum of the Earth".

See I don't care one bit.  I for free speech and think people should be able to say almost anything on both sides short of the perverbial shouting Fire in a theater. 

Personally - I enjoyed Fluke getting called a slut for 3 days.   I would not seek to curtail the same enjoyment that liberals get when Mahr does it to palin.   

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He called her a "slut" and a "talk slut."  There is zero difference between the two events, other than the reaction of liberals.  Typical liberal hypocrisy.  


No, you guys are reaching.

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See I don't care one bit.  I for free speech and think people should be able to say almost anything on both sides short of the perverbial shouting Fire in a theater. 

Personally - I enjoyed Fluke getting called a slut for 3 days.   I would not seek to curtail the same enjoyment that liberals get when Mahr does it to palin.   

I did not enjoy her being called a slut, but I would not try to prevent conservatives from voicing their opinions.


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No, you guys are reaching.

I've just stated the facts.  Schultz called Laura Ingraham a "slut" and a "talk slut," solely because he disagrees with her politics.  This is the same "slut" who has adopted three kids, one from Guatemala and two from Russia.  And the liberal response was almost nonexistent.  No boycotts.  No campaigns to get the guy off the air.  There was a blip on the radar and probably high fives in the back rooms. 

This is typical liberal hypocrisy. 

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I've just stated the facts.  Schultz called Laura Ingraham a "slut" and a "talk slut," solely because he disagrees with her politics.  This is the same "slut" who has adopted three kids, one from Guatemala and two from Russia.  And the liberal response was almost nonexistent.  No boycotts.  No campaigns to get the guy off the air.  There was a blip on the radar and probably high fives in the back rooms. 

This is typical liberal hypocrisy. 




HA!  Exactly.  It's always "different" when the liberals do it.  ::)

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I've just stated the facts.  Schultz called Laura Ingraham a "slut" and a "talk slut," solely because he disagrees with her politics.  This is the same "slut" who has adopted three kids, one from Guatemala and two from Russia.  And the liberal response was almost nonexistent.  No boycotts.  No campaigns to get the guy off the air.  There was a blip on the radar and probably high fives in the back rooms. 

This is typical liberal hypocrisy. 
Nope.

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lol.  Are you serious?  That's it?  Where was the Media Matters campaign to get Shultz off the air?  Where were the boycotts?  Pressure on advertisers? 

if he did it for 3 hours a day for 3 days in a row and had a history of demeaning women (anyone remember FemiNazi) then you might have seen the same type of response that Rush is now enjoying

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if he did it for 3 hours a day for 3 days in a row and had a history of demeaning women (anyone remember FemiNazi) then you might have seen the same type of response that Rush is now enjoying


Straw I may hate you and think your goal is to collapse America into a communist he'll hole, but I would defend to the death your right to say so. 

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Straw I may hate you and think your goal is to collapse America into a communist he'll hole, but I would defend to the death your right to say so. 

why the fuck would you waste your energy hating someone you don't even know and who has no effect on your life?

btw - if you think I have some "goal" to collapse America you're more of an idiot than I thought you were

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Ed = asshole.
Rush = asshole.

Hope this clarifies things for everyone. 

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you're the one that brought up the idiotic idea of thought censorship in the first place

all the phony outrage about censorship when all Media Matter is doing is running a few radio ads

Pay attention - radio ad's are not censorship and it is literally impossible for Media Matter to censor Rush.  The only way that could happen is if Rush becomes their employee and then they tell him what he can and cannot say

Media Matters, exercising their right to free speech by objecting to something Rush has said is not censorship
LMFAO goodness only a person who didnt understand that advocating the removal of ideas from air waves was indeed advocating for censor ship would think that "thought" meant unexpressed thoughts...

OH WAIT...an idiot like that walks among us...

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I've never seen "semantics" spelled that way.
way to side step my points...::)

nothing I didnt expect after you painted yourself into a corner...

Al Doggity

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way to side step my points...::)

nothing I didnt expect after you painted yourself into a corner...

 ::) Those weren't my thoughts. It was a quote from the conservative Focus on the Family Foundation.
http://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/social-issues/broadcast-decency/cause-for-concern.aspx
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One of the chief functions of government is to restrain evil. Broadcast indecency makes it extremely difficult for parents to protect their children's mental and physical health against corrupting influences.

A group that has called it's fair share of boycotts. Just like these tools:

http://floridafamily.org/full_article.php?article_no=23
 
and these nitwits:
http://www.onemillionmoms.com/IssueDetail.asp?id=441

and these morons:
http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=2147515460
http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=2147518171
http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=2147516990

"Urge Fox to fire Alan Colmes for despicable comments about Santorum infant"


Those are just a few recent examples. Using public pressure to attempt to stifle free speech is a long, proud tradition for conservatives.





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Maher: Hate Crime Laws Give "Liberals A Bad Name"
Real Clear Politics ^ | 3/24/12
Posted on March 24, 2012 8:18:09 PM EDT by Impala64ssa

On his HBO show "Real Time," host Bill Maher spent six minutes discussing his strong opposition to "hate crime laws." "One more aspect of this (Treyvon Martin case) which is hate crimes, and I know that you've (pointing to Andrew Sullivan) written about this. Some people think that a hate crime is a thought crime and this shouldn't be some separate category, a crime is a crime. It's an action. Is that what you guys believe? That's what I believe," Maher said to his panel comprised of Andrew Sullivan, Wendy Schiller and Glenn Greenwald. "It's totally what I believe," Andrew Sullivan said. "I don't want, in any way, the government getting into my mind, into my thought process." The discussion moved on to a specific case involving Rutgers student Tyler Clementi and his former roommate Dharun Ravi that is being labeled a hate crime. Last year, Clementi committed suicide after being hazed by Ravi. Maher says trying this case as a hate crime "gives liberals a bad name. Maher says Ravi was "a mean kid" but that he shouldn't face the amount of jail time he is looking at, 10 years in prison, for being "mean." "If it's against the law to be stupid, we're all going to be in jail eventually," Maher said to guest Wendy Schiller, who accused Ravi of attacking Clemente because of his sexual orientation. "He was a mean kid." "I just think this is what gives liberals a bad name," Maher also said. "Just this? Nothing else, just this?" Schiller asked.

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I agree w Mahr

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LMFAO goodness only a person who didnt understand that advocating the removal of ideas from air waves was indeed advocating for censor ship would think that "thought" meant unexpressed thoughts...

OH WAIT...an idiot like that walks among us...

all Media Matters is doing is running ads expressing an opinion

for censorship to take place there has to be some actual censorship

btw - have you heard the ads or just read the story at the beginning of this thread....like me

the story doesn't even say the ads call for Rush to be removed from the air

here is all I read

where is the censorship that everyone is getting so hysterical about?

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The ads use Limbaugh’s own words about student Sandra Fluke, who told congressional Democrats that contraception should be paid for in health plans. Limbaugh, on his radio programs, suggested Fluke wanted to be paid to have sex, which made her a “slut” and a “prostitute.” In return for the money, he said Fluke should post videos of herself having sex. Under sharp criticism, Limbaugh later apologized.

In one of the anti-Limbaugh ads, listeners are urged to call the local station that carries Limbaugh to say “we don’t talk to women like that” in our city.


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::) Those weren't my thoughts. It was a quote from the conservative Focus on the Family Foundation.
http://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/social-issues/broadcast-decency/cause-for-concern.aspx
A group that has called it's fair share of boycotts. Just like these tools:

http://floridafamily.org/full_article.php?article_no=23
 
and these nitwits:
http://www.onemillionmoms.com/IssueDetail.asp?id=441

and these morons:
http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=2147515460
http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=2147518171
http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=2147516990

"Urge Fox to fire Alan Colmes for despicable comments about Santorum infant"


Those are just a few recent examples. Using public pressure to attempt to stifle free speech is a long, proud tradition for conservatives.
agreed and its shit when they do it just like its shit now...

so why not come out and call it shit when either does it?

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so why not come out and call it shit when either does it?

That was the point of the post, mctones.  ::) Check the thread title. Check the posts in the thread.