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Govt to keep info on Americans with no terror ties
 

Mar 22, 9:36 PM (ET)

By EILEEN SULLIVAN

 

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. intelligence community will now be able to store information about Americans with no ties to terrorism for up to five years under new Obama administration guidelines.

Until now, the National Counterterrorism Center had to immediately destroy information about Americans that was already stored in other government databases when there were no clear ties to terrorism.

Giving the NCTC expanded record-retention authority had been called for by members of Congress who said the intelligence community did not connect strands of intelligence held by multiple agencies leading up to the failed bombing attempt on a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas 2009.

"Following the failed terrorist attack in December 2009, representatives of the counterterrorism community concluded it is vital for NCTC to be provided with a variety of datasets from various agencies that contain terrorism information," Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said in a statement late Thursday. "The ability to search against these datasets for up to five years on a continuing basis as these updated guidelines permit will enable NCTC to accomplish its mission more practically and effectively."

The new rules replace guidelines issued in 2008 and have privacy advocates concerned about the potential for data-mining information on innocent Americans.

"It is a vast expansion of the government's surveillance authority," Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said of the five-year retention period.

The government put in strong safeguards at the NCTC for the data that would be collected on U.S. citizens for intelligence purposes, Rotenberg said. These new guidelines undercut the Federal Privacy Act, he said.

"The fact that this data can be retained for five years on U.S. citizens for whom there's no evidence of criminal conduct is very disturbing," Rotenberg said.

"Total Information Awareness appears to be reconstructing itself," Rotenberg said, referring to the Defense Department's post-9/11 data-mining research program that was killed in 2003 because of privacy concerns.

The Washington Post first reported the new rules Thursday.

The Obama administration said the new rules come with strong safeguards for privacy and civil liberties as well. Before the NCTC may obtain data held by another government agency, there is a high-level review to assure that the data "is likely to contain significant terrorism information," Alexander Joel, the civil liberties protection officer at national intelligence directorate, said in a news release Thursday.

The NCTC was created after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to be the central U.S. organization to analyze and integrate intelligence regarding terrorism.



http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120323/D9TLT6VG0.html


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Somehow,although, I do blame OB for not standing up to this if he in fact opposed it, I think we would have seen stuff like this and the NDAA crap regardless of who's in the white house.

Besides if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about  ::)

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Somehow,although, I do blame OB for not standing up to this if he in fact opposed it, I think we would have seen stuff like this and the NDAA crap regardless of who's in the white house.

Besides if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about  ::)

Exactly.  The Patriot Act was under Bush's term so it's not a matter of who's sitting in the chair as much as a fault of government over reach as a whole.  These policies have little to do with right or left as they both vote with each other on these types of issues.

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33, i'll give you credit, I am pretty sure you weren't one of the cowards on here... who during the bush era... used to aalways say "What's wrong with the govt snooping thru your shit with the patriot act, if you have nothing to hide, you shouldnt care!"

Cause believe it or not, "conservatives" on getbig used to say that.  Really.  not sure if you were here yet for that.  2005 or 2006. 

Of course its over-reaching bullshit.  People were right to say that in 2002 and right to say that in 2012.

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33, i'll give you credit, I am pretty sure you weren't one of the cowards on here... who during the bush era... used to aalways say "What's wrong with the govt snooping thru your shit with the patriot act, if you have nothing to hide, you shouldnt care!"

Cause believe it or not, "conservatives" on getbig used to say that.  Really.  not sure if you were here yet for that.  2005 or 2006. 

Of course its over-reaching bullshit.  People were right to say that in 2002 and right to say that in 2012.



I was against the patriot act and DHS.  I think Bush was a horrible president and what we have now is Obama tripling down on bush's bs all to the delight of his drone base who claimed to be against this type of crap. 

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33, i'll give you credit, I am pretty sure you weren't one of the cowards on here... who during the bush era... used to aalways say "What's wrong with the govt snooping thru your shit with the patriot act, if you have nothing to hide, you shouldnt care!"

Cause believe it or not, "conservatives" on getbig used to say that.  Really.  not sure if you were here yet for that.  2005 or 2006. 

Of course its over-reaching bullshit.  People were right to say that in 2002 and right to say that in 2012.
Its bullshit and wrong.
It was bullshit and wrong under Bush, its bullshit and wrong under Obama. (moreso IMHO cause he promised to be different and end this kind of crap)

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Govt to keep info on Americans with no terror ties
 

Mar 22, 9:36 PM (ET)

By EILEEN SULLIVAN

 

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. intelligence community will now be able to store information about Americans with no ties to terrorism for up to five years under new Obama administration guidelines.

Until now, the National Counterterrorism Center had to immediately destroy information about Americans that was already stored in other government databases when there were no clear ties to terrorism.

Giving the NCTC expanded record-retention authority had been called for by members of Congress who said the intelligence community did not connect strands of intelligence held by multiple agencies leading up to the failed bombing attempt on a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas 2009.

"Following the failed terrorist attack in December 2009, representatives of the counterterrorism community concluded it is vital for NCTC to be provided with a variety of datasets from various agencies that contain terrorism information," Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said in a statement late Thursday. "The ability to search against these datasets for up to five years on a continuing basis as these updated guidelines permit will enable NCTC to accomplish its mission more practically and effectively."

The new rules replace guidelines issued in 2008 and have privacy advocates concerned about the potential for data-mining information on innocent Americans.

"It is a vast expansion of the government's surveillance authority," Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said of the five-year retention period.

The government put in strong safeguards at the NCTC for the data that would be collected on U.S. citizens for intelligence purposes, Rotenberg said. These new guidelines undercut the Federal Privacy Act, he said.

"The fact that this data can be retained for five years on U.S. citizens for whom there's no evidence of criminal conduct is very disturbing," Rotenberg said.

"Total Information Awareness appears to be reconstructing itself," Rotenberg said, referring to the Defense Department's post-9/11 data-mining research program that was killed in 2003 because of privacy concerns.

The Washington Post first reported the new rules Thursday.

The Obama administration said the new rules come with strong safeguards for privacy and civil liberties as well. Before the NCTC may obtain data held by another government agency, there is a high-level review to assure that the data "is likely to contain significant terrorism information," Alexander Joel, the civil liberties protection officer at national intelligence directorate, said in a news release Thursday.

The NCTC was created after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to be the central U.S. organization to analyze and integrate intelligence regarding terrorism.



http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120323/D9TLT6VG0.html




Been around since 9/11 and its prob going to stay
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