Kony 2012 + Trayvon Martin Shooting + Rutgers Gay Suicide

[tonymctones]

WHy did he look like he was causing problems?  Was he carrying a stolen TV?  Even if he was (and he wasn't), jumping out of your truck and running at someone in the dark is certainly a sign of aggression.  If someone came at me like that in the night, I'd probably shoot them.  Just being honest.  So I can't blame the kid for swinging.

werent you a neighborhood watch person too?

telling us how you used to hassle ppl in your neighborhood to get them to leave b/c the cops took to long to get there or wouldnt do anything?

[Shockwave]

Running at him?
Where do you come up with this shut? Everything I've seen said he was failing the kid calling.in a suspicious person to the cops, because they've had a problem with robberies.
Nobody can figure out what happened but somehow you know this guy ran down and started a.fistfightn this kid for no reason?  Even when the neighbor said that the black kid attacked him, not the other way around?
Lol. Don't let facts.get.in you way or anything, you'd make.a.great msnbc host.

[Dos Equis]

werent you a neighborhood watch person too?

telling us how you used to hassle ppl in your neighborhood to get them to leave b/c the cops took to long to get there or wouldnt do anything?

I do recall him saying he would approach, with his gun in hand, a suspicious person parked in his neighborhood.

[240 is Back]

werent you a neighborhood watch person too?

telling us how you used to hassle ppl in your neighborhood to get them to leave b/c the cops took to long to get there or wouldnt do anything?

I certainly was.  I worked with large groups of locals.  We would collect info about the person who was there and acting shady.  But "Chasing them in the dark" was something we didn't do.

I am very quick to chase away people who are in MY block.  If this kid was on my block, I'd call 5-6 neighbors, we'd all walk our dogs at once while carrying our weapons (concealed and holstered of course) and flashlights, and we may all call the cops at the same time to report the kid.  But none of us would be stupid enough to "RUN" and "CONFRONT" an unknown variable.

big diff there, that mr zimm didn't seem to know.

[240 is Back]

Running at him?
Where do you come up with this shut?

on the tape you hear him panting as he's running or walking realllly fast trying to catch up with the kid and see which way he was heading. 

He claimed he hopped out of his truck "because he didn't know what corner he was at" which is a load of shit.  In a small apt complex where this dude patrols regularly, there's a damn good chance he knew what that corner was   And if will lie about that, and exaggerate about 'the kid looks to be on drugs' and 'something in his waistband' - lol - sounds like he's a drama queen bitch to me.

[Shockwave]

on the tape you hear him panting as he's running or walking realllly fast trying to catch up with the kid and see which way he was heading. 

He claimed he hopped out of his truck "because he didn't know what corner he was at" which is a load of shit.  In a small apt complex where this dude patrols regularly, there's a damn good chance he knew what that corner was   And if will lie about that, and exaggerate about 'the kid looks to be on drugs' and 'something in his waistband' - lol - sounds like he's a drama queen bitch to me.

Jesus Christ dude. 
You dont know what happened and neither do any of us.

[tonymctones]

I certainly was.  I worked with large groups of locals.  We would collect info about the person who was there and acting shady.  But "Chasing them in the dark" was something we didn't do.

I am very quick to chase away people who are in MY block.  If this kid was on my block, I'd call 5-6 neighbors, we'd all walk our dogs at once while carrying our weapons (concealed and holstered of course) and flashlights, and we may all call the cops at the same time to report the kid.  But none of us would be stupid enough to "RUN" and "CONFRONT" an unknown variable.

big diff there, that mr zimm didn't seem to know.

I remember you telling us how you would confront them and ask them what they were doing? who they were there to see etc?

isnt that the same thing this guy did?

[240 is Back]

I remember you telling us how you would confront them and ask them what they were doing? who they were there to see etc?

isnt that the same thing this guy did?

if this kid was standing at my mailbox, you bet your ass i'd confront him.

but driving around other people's blocks?  and starting shit when you aren't on your own castle doctrine?  no way.

If youre on my property, i'm going to be armed and ask you wnat you want.  If kid swings on my in my own yard, I'mma smoke him, of course.

but if I walk up to kid someone where I DONT LIVE, it's a whole diff story.  I can and might call the police if his ass looks shady.  But the MINUTE I violate his constitutional rights, as a citizen, i'm perfectly fair game for an ass whooping or to get smoked.

That's the prob here.  The kid was in a public area, just like the cop was.  They had EQUAL RIGHT to be on that piece of dirt. 

So yes toney, if dirtbag is on my street, i call police.  One block over, it's their problem or maybe i do call.  if he's on my property, its rambo time. 

[tonymctones]

if this kid was standing at my mailbox, you bet your ass i'd confront him.

but driving around other people's blocks?  and starting shit when you aren't on your own castle doctrine?  no way.

If youre on my property, i'm going to be armed and ask you wnat you want.  If kid swings on my in my own yard, I'mma smoke him, of course.

but if I walk up to kid someone where I DONT LIVE, it's a whole diff story.  I can and might call the police if his ass looks shady.  But the MINUTE I violate his constitutional rights, as a citizen, i'm perfectly fair game for an ass whooping or to get smoked.

That's the prob here.  The kid was in a public area, just like the cop was.  They had EQUAL RIGHT to be on that piece of dirt. 

So yes toney, if dirtbag is on my street, i call police.  One block over, it's their problem or maybe i do call.  if he's on my property, its rambo time. 

how did he violate his constitutional rights?

[Skip8282]

I certainly was.  I worked with large groups of locals.  We would collect info about the person who was there and acting shady.  But "Chasing them in the dark" was something we didn't do.

I am very quick to chase away people who are in MY block.  If this kid was on my block, I'd call 5-6 neighbors, we'd all walk our dogs at once while carrying our weapons (concealed and holstered of course) and flashlights, and we may all call the cops at the same time to report the kid.  But none of us would be stupid enough to "RUN" and "CONFRONT" an unknown variable.

big diff there, that mr zimm didn't seem to know.

  At least try somewhat to keep your lies straight...tool.

sorry to vent.  but seriously.

i lived in a shitty trailer park for over a year.  when we moved in, there were junkies, homeless, vagrants who lived in efficiecies by the week, sex offenders, and of course, illegals.

I didn't get on message boards and vent.  I sat down with the decent old folks in the park and we determined who the problems were.  We applied pressure on mgmt not to renew their leases.  When there were suspicious cars, 6 or 8 of us would come out of our trailers at the same time and stand around 5 feet from their car (visibly armed) write down their info, give them shitty looks, etc.  If they were up to no good, they left.  When bums would walk thru at night, we'd approach them as miilitantly as possible and ask them if they needed directions.  The look on our faces and the shotgun rack they heard but never saw meant they didn't come back.


I guess I just don't understand the mindset of being pissed about illegals and not doing anything about it.  Scumbags (legal or otherwise) weren't welcome in our trailer park.  We made them uncomfortable, scared, whatever, and they took their fun elsewhere.

I'm not saying be violent or break the law.  I'm saying you bench in your screen room, you check your mail with your glock clearly visible, you approach strangers and ask them what their business is in this location.  They give you guff, you call 911 and report public nuisance, pot smell, suspicious vehicle, whatever.  You chase them out.

[Skip8282]

I remember you telling us how you would confront them and ask them what they were doing? who they were there to see etc?

isnt that the same thing this guy did?

Hell, yes.  He's been talking this neighborhood watch tough guy shit at least as long as I've been around and probably well before that.

Now suddenly it's "different".

Wait, where have we heard that one before...lol.

[Shockwave]

Hell, yes.  He's been talking this neighborhood watch tough guy shit at least as long as I've been around and probably well before that.

Now suddenly it's "different".

Wait, where have we heard that one before...lol.

I kind of think he's judging this guy based on his experiences as neighborhood watch honestly.. Thats where I think his instant judgement came from.

[240 is Back]

Yes, when they were on our street, we'd approach them IN A GROUP.  Not RUNNING.  Not CHASING.  

I'm talking calm and rational with the law ON OUR SIDE.

THis jackass was playing ninja, running in the dark alone to confront an unknown suspect.  When me and the older vets from the trailer park did it, we walked, well lit

[240 is Back]

Hell, yes.  He's been talking this neighborhood watch tough guy shit at least as long as I've been around and probably well before that.

Now suddenly it's "different".

Wait, where have we heard that one before...lol.

it depends where the person is, and how you approach him.   the minute the cops are called, this jackass has to stop his little 'pursuit'.  Cuz the cops are just as likely to see his silly ass running thru the dark.  I know, he'd hold up her permit and say "I'm one of the good guys!" as he had probably practiced.  Hell, he probably had some of those silly ass "permit badges" haha.

I guess if you listen to the radio defending this douchebag long enough, you'll take that point of view.  IMO, the kid belonged in jail for dealing drugs, and this man belongs in jail for shooting someone after he initiated the confrontation.  We knew he did this.   WE heard him panting on the phone chasing after him.

[Skip8282]

Yes, when they were on our street, we'd approach them IN A GROUP.  Not RUNNING.  Not CHASING. 

I'm talking calm and rational with the law ON OUR SIDE.

THis jackass was playing ninja, running in the dark alone to confront an unknown suspect.  When me and the older vets from the trailer park did it, we walked, well lit

Oh ok, so if your doing it "militantly" then it's alright.

But, if you're "running" and "chasing" (something you don't even know happened, btw), then it's wrong.


Yep, no double standard there. 

[240 is Back]

Oh ok, so if your doing it "militantly" then it's alright.

But, if you're "running" and "chasing" (something you don't even know happened, btw), then it's wrong.


Yep, no double standard there. 

yes.  Militantly is different from frantic running.  I would never violate that 10 foot space.  I would do it in a group.  I would keep it well lit.

I did this in my trailer park with the other folks who lived there.  We'd all come out of our houses at the same time - and hell yes, it scared people off to know people were watching them.

At no point would i ever run into the darkness on someone else's block at an unknown.  Bottom line.

[Shockwave]

Oh ok, so if your doing it "militantly" then it's alright.

But, if you're "running" and "chasing" (something you don't even know happened, btw), then it's wrong.


Yep, no double standard there. 

LOL, approaching "militantly" and "chasing" are somehow different.
The funny this in he has no idea HOW the guy approached the kid.

240 has this whole thing figured out without a doubt, he's constructed the entire scenario to justify his judgement, its a lost cause.

[Shockwave]

yes.  Militantly is different from frantic running.  I would never violate that 10 foot space.  I would do it in a group.  I would keep it well lit.

I did this in my trailer park with the other folks who lived there.  We'd all come out of our houses at the same time - and hell yes, it scared people off to know people were watching them.

At no point would i ever run into the darkness on someone else's block at an unknown.  Bottom line.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Yes, you know this, but the people there cant even figure out WTF happened.
Amazing dude, you should sell your services to the police, theyd love to have a telepath that can determine how a situation went down just from listening to an audio recording!

And fucking LAWL @ the 10 ft rule. What if he just jogged to within distance to see the kid and the kid flipped out?
You have NO fucking idea but yet you act like its an open and shut case.

[Roger Bacon]

WHy did he look like he was causing problems?  Was he carrying a stolen TV?  Even if he was (and he wasn't), jumping out of your truck and running at someone in the dark is certainly a sign of aggression.  If someone came at me like that in the night, I'd probably shoot them.  Just being honest.  So I can't blame the kid for swinging.

Good point.....

[Skip8282]

yes.  Militantly is different from frantic running.  I would never violate that 10 foot space.  I would do it in a group.  I would keep it well lit.

I did this in my trailer park with the other folks who lived there.  We'd all come out of our houses at the same time - and hell yes, it scared people off to know people were watching them.

At no point would i ever run into the darkness on someone else's block at an unknown.  Bottom line.

Oh, now he wasn't just "running", he was frantically running.

Your knowledge of what went down is amazing, considering you weren't even there!

Any more embellishments?

[240 is Back]

listen to the tape.  dude is out of breath - running into a fight winded.  total stupid move.  fatass on the phone - hannity played it.  he's wheezing as he runs.

yes, militantly is fast walking, controlled.  in groups.  to observe, not to attack.  

[tonymctones]

Yes, when they were on our street, we'd approach them IN A GROUP.  Not RUNNING.  Not CHASING.  

I'm talking calm and rational with the law ON OUR SIDE.

THis jackass was playing ninja, running in the dark alone to confront an unknown suspect.  When me and the older vets from the trailer park did it, we walked, well lit

well lit, with a hidden shot gun that got cocked?

LMFAO I guess I know how trayvon felt b/c if your retarded ass came walking up to me like that Id certainly make sure that would be the last time you fucking jack ass.

[Shockwave]

Oh, now he wasn't just "running", he was frantically running.

Your knowledge of what went down is amazing, considering you weren't even there!

Any more embellishments?

He knows that he frantically ran right up to his 10ft bubble radius as well.

For the record 240, I have not heard ANYTHING defending this kid. And its pretty obvious to me that there is a helluva lot more unknown here than what is being pushed by MSNBC.

[Skip8282]

LOL, approaching "militantly" and "chasing" are somehow different.
The funny this in he has no idea HOW the guy approached the kid.

240 has this whole thing figured out without a doubt, he's constructed the entire scenario to justify his judgement, its a lost cause.

Give him till next week.  By then the vigilante will have actually paid the kid earlier in the day to walk through at a specific time so that he could shoot him and be the hero.  Then he took the money back out of the innocent kids pocket.

[Shockwave]

listen to the tape.  dude is out of breath - running into a fight winded.  total stupid move.  fatass on the phone - hannity played it.  he's wheezing as he runs.

yes, militantly is fast walking, controlled.  in groups.  to observe, not to attack.  

Good lord. So a man out of breath somehow means he ran up and engaged the kid. Just ran up and punched, cause thats exactly what happens every time someone is out of breath.
Not like they could be jogging to catch up to someone who may be running because he doesnt want to be followed. Couldnt be that he was running to try and keep the kid in sight.
Out of breath = attacking. Good to know.
Youre ENTIRE argument is based on someone being out of breath. That is fucking pathetic and you would get laughed out of the courtroom.

"But your honor, its clear he attacked him first because he was out of breath on the recording. That means he ran up and attacked the kid. I mean, cmon, he's out of breath."