Russia is our #1 geopolitical enemy

[240 is Back]

True or false?    They didn't attack us on 911. 

[magikusar]

israel

[deadpan]

i think china

[howardroark]

We don't really have any enemies...

Sure, there is Iran, but that's an enemy of our own making. And they are extremely weak - we could take them out quite easily if they ever truly threatened us.

Of course there is Al Qaeda and Islamic terrorists, but those too are enemies of our own making. If we minded our own business, the Islamic terrorists would be too busy slaughtering each other to ever attack us.

China is on the rise, but it'll take a long time and many economic reforms for them to ever pose a serious threat to us.

India is rising too, but they are quite friendly to American interests. And again, they need serious economic reform if they're ever going to truly rise to our superpower status.

Russia will never be more than a regional power in Eastern Europe - they lack the long-term potential of China and India.

The USA is dominant and could remain so for the long term if it further liberalized its economy and labor market by cutting taxes, cutting spending, deregulating, and allowing more people into the United States. The combination of strong economic growth and population growth would make the United States untouchable for years to come. Of course, avoiding creating more enemies (as we have done with Iran) would be necessary in order to keep amassing power. Unfortunately, it seems like the US's greatest enemy is itself - if the US continues its path toward bankruptcy, statism, and inflationism, it will ultimately destroy itself and its world power.

[headhuntersix]

This crap is why we don't agree on foreign policy...."own making" ....... come on.

[howardroark]

This crap is why we don't agree on foreign policy...."own making" ....... come on.

Sorry, I forgot that you believe that the reason why people come to the United States to blow themselves up is because we allow women in the workplace - not the reason the terrorists themselves give, which is that they attack us because our government has stationed troops in their foreign land and has installed/supported a whole series of puppet dictators in their lands.

[Skip8282]

True or false?    They didn't attack us on 911. 

False.

This crap is why we don't agree on foreign policy...."own making" ....... come on.

Yeah HH, remember, you have to selectively pick ONE reason out of many given.

Let's also forget the terrorists blowing themselves up because somebody wrote a book critical of Islam, drew a cartoon making fun of Mohammed, attempting to draw governments into war such as Algeria, financial remuneration for their family, and the endless other social, cultural, religious, and political reasons.

BTW, you're also at fault for DOING NOTHING!

That's right, if you refuse to trade with them (that's a sanction).  That's an act of war.  That's us creating terrorists.

Yep, doing something or doing nothing...it's all our fault. 

[howardroark]

Let's also forget the terrorists blowing themselves up because somebody wrote a book critical of Islam, drew a cartoon making fun of Mohammed, attempting to draw governments into war such as Algeria, financial remuneration for their family, and the endless other social, cultural, religious, and political reasons.

I don't remember anyone hijacking a plane in the West over some cartoons. I do remember them doing so over our interventionism in the Islamic world. Their explicitly stated reasons for the suicide attacks on 9/11 were the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia, US support of Israel, and sanctions against Iraq.

BTW, you're also at fault for DOING NOTHING!

That's right, if you refuse to trade with them (that's a sanction).  That's an act of war.  That's us creating terrorists.

A sanction isn't doing nothing. It is using the government to prevent trade from occurring.

[Skip8282]

I don't remember anyone hijacking a plane in the West over some cartoons. I do remember them doing so over our interventionism in the Islamic world. Their explicitly stated reasons for the suicide attacks on 9/11 were the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia, US support of Israel, and sanctions against Iraq.

Uh no.  The stated reasons were given by AQ leaders after they had changed the minds of the highjackers who were not even initially targeting us.

A sanction isn't doing nothing. It is using the government to prevent trade from occurring.

Saying we are not going to trade with you is doing nothing - it's our refusal to engage in a particular act.  These shitbags don't get to tell us who we will and will not do business with.  They do not get to tell us what we will and will not do.

The only valid point with sanctions is when we seize their property.  This is a very small part of sanctions, but it's wrong and certainly a source for conflict.  If another country did that to us, we would undoubtedly consider military action.

[TheGrinch]

israel

bingo 100% correct

[MB_722]

what a waste

[240 is Back]

On CNN, Romney called Russia “without question our No. 1 geopolitical foe.”

While Obama was IN Russia.  Even Boehnner responded with:
When Boehner was asked about Romney's criticism, the speaker told reporters that it wasn't the right thing to do. "While the president is overseas, I think it's appropriate that people not be critical of him or of our country," he said.

[magikusar]

We don't really have any enemies...

Sure, there is Iran, but that's an enemy of our own making. And they are extremely weak - we could take them out quite easily if they ever truly threatened us.

Of course there is Al Qaeda and Islamic terrorists, but those too are enemies of our own making. If we minded our own business, the Islamic terrorists would be too busy slaughtering each other to ever attack us.

China is on the rise, but it'll take a long time and many economic reforms for them to ever pose a serious threat to us.

India is rising too, but they are quite friendly to American interests. And again, they need serious economic reform if they're ever going to truly rise to our superpower status.

Russia will never be more than a regional power in Eastern Europe - they lack the long-term potential of China and India.

The USA is dominant and could remain so for the long term if it further liberalized its economy and labor market by cutting taxes, cutting spending, deregulating, and allowing more people into the United States. The combination of strong economic growth and population growth would make the United States untouchable for years to come. Of course, avoiding creating more enemies (as we have done with Iran) would be necessary in order to keep amassing power. Unfortunately, it seems like the US's greatest enemy is itself - if the US continues its path toward bankruptcy, statism, and inflationism, it will ultimately destroy itself and its world power.

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[Necrosis]

Sorry, I forgot that you believe that the reason why people come to the United States to blow themselves up is because we allow women in the workplace - not the reason the terrorists themselves give, which is that they attack us because our government has stationed troops in their foreign land and has installed/supported a whole series of puppet dictators in their lands.

jesus i agree with you.

[whork]

On CNN, Romney called Russia “without question our No. 1 geopolitical foe.”

While Obama was IN Russia.  Even Boehnner responded with:
When Boehner was asked about Romney's criticism, the speaker told reporters that it wasn't the right thing to do. "While the president is overseas, I think it's appropriate that people not be critical of him or of our country," he said.

Romney is a moron he makes Obama look genuine and presidential and thats not an easy task

[deadpan]

On CNN, Romney called Russia “without question our No. 1 geopolitical foe.”

While Obama was IN Russia.  Even Boehnner responded with:
When Boehner was asked about Romney's criticism, the speaker told reporters that it wasn't the right thing to do. "While the president is overseas, I think it's appropriate that people not be critical of him or of our country," he said.

i HAAAATE romney so much, it makes me cringe that there are people who actually think he can be entrusted with anything. I voted for Paul back in 08, voted for him in the primaries 2012, but we can all see how this is going to turn out. seriously i'm not voting this year. maybe even voting for obama.

[240 is Back]

i HAAAATE romney so much, it makes me cringe that there are people who actually think he can be entrusted with anything. I voted for Paul back in 08, voted for him in the primaries 2012, but we can all see how this is going to turn out. seriously i'm not voting this year. maybe even voting for obama.

romney is going to be pretty funny in the primary.  he's out of touch.  i can finally see what being in a boardroom having ppl kiss your ass for 20 years ends up like.

Nobody has ever said "mitt, seriously, shut the fck up and listen for 5 minutes".    Cause he was the rich boss, and liked firing people lol.

It's gonna be entertaining.  I dont konw that the GOp base will be too excited to walk up and down the street to knock on doors for him - he's not that diff form obama, if you look at their track records.  Hell, Obama never signed a gun ban - romney did.

[headhuntersix]

I don't remember anyone hijacking a plane in the West over some cartoons. I do remember them doing so over our interventionism in the Islamic world. Their explicitly stated reasons for the suicide attacks on 9/11 were the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia, US support of Israel, and sanctions against Iraq.

A sanction isn't doing nothing. It is using the government to prevent trade from occurring.

Um....where does the oil come from. Don't give me the drill here shit, we currently get our oil from the Mid East, therefore we got invloved. We were also involved since 1945 because the Russians had always had their sights set on Mid East oil...thus Iran and support for Israel. Sticking you head in the sand won't make it go away. I though you said you were dropping out of college. You should travel to the Middle east and talk to these people...then talk to the jews.

[deadpan]

Um....where does the oil come from. Don't give me the drill here shit, we currently get our oil from the Mid East, therefore we got invloved. We were also involved since 1945 because the Russians had always had their sights set on Mid East oil...thus Iran and support for Israel. Sticking you head in the sand won't make it go away. I though you said you were dropping out of college. You should travel to the Middle east and talk to these people...then talk to the jews.

brosef most of our oil comes from canada, south america, mexico and texas. yes OPEC still supplies alot but most comes from saudi, not iraq or afghanistan, . they did discover huge silicon deposits in afghanistan which is why the russians are sending more and more troops there, but that's a different story. if we tapped our own oil supplies we could easily stop buying from iraq and perhaps even OPEC altogether. you could argue we're there because of israeli interests but i don't buy for a minute that it's oil.

http://www.lookoutmtn.com/Documents/Sources_of_United_States_Oil_Supply.pdf

[headhuntersix]

Yeah about 25%...its still where a huge percentage of oil comes from and was a major issue during the cold war. Further...what Russian troops in Afghanistan? I must have missed that....please don't refer to me as brosef. Iraq's oil production is moderate but they will be able to almost match Saudi Arabia in the next 5-10 years.

[Soul Crusher]

Obama is our #1 Geopolitical enemy. 

[headhuntersix]

Raw Iron - The Making of Pumping Iron 

[deadpan]

Yeah about 25%...its still where a huge percentage of oil comes from and was a major issue during the cold war. Further...what Russian troops in Afghanistan? I must have missed that....please don't refer to me as brosef. Iraq's oil production is moderate but they will be able to almost match Saudi Arabia in the next 5-10 years.

ummm, where exactly did you get 25%?  it's like less than 5%, here look at this
ftp://ftp.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324122/Russian-troops-return-Afghanistan-Gorbachev-warns-Nato-victory-impossible.html

most of the OPEC share of the oil comes from saudi which we are still on fairly good terms with. i don't know anything about iraq's "future capacity", i do know our own domestic potential is probably far greater  not to mention there's dozens of other places we could buy from to make up for that 5%. if i wanted to get more oil i can think of tons of better ways to do it than engaging in lengthy 4 trillion dollar wars and alienating the world community.

quite simply i don't buy the fact that we are trying to "capture" iraq for their oil resources in the some plot to have oil for when the rest of the world runs out, even if that were the case it would be much easier to develop our own resources, then if perhaps we start running low in the future THEN we could invade iraq and have much more support from the general population.

the thing about americans is that they are all fat fucks that like to eat mcdonalds and drive their their gas-guzzling SUVs, sure they say "no blood for oil now" but trust me, when prices skyrocket to $10/gal and it costs like 30 dollars to drive little timmy to soccer practice, they'll be crying for blood like ravenous beasts.

[JBGRAY]

Islam is America's greatest enemy.  Currently, 44 of the world's armed conflicts are due to Islamic aggression.....making it overwhelmingly the lion's share of the wars currently being waged today.  Why?  OK, here are my famous bulletpoints:

- Fastest rising birthrates....well above birth replacement rate.  They are moving en masse into largely non-Islamic nations where there are massively decreasing birthrates or the native populations are moving out(due to Islamic immigration), primarily throughout Western Europe, Australia, and Israel.

- Take advantage of Western nation's lax immigration policies and their overall liberal attitudes in the appeasement of Islam.  Criticism of Islam or immigration policy is sharply rebuked by western governments.

- Increasing military capacity and the formation of nuclear weapons.  Pakistan is already capable.  Iran is close.  Other Muslim nations have nuclear plans in place. 


Russia will not be a major player in the years to come.  Yes, their technology in many areas is impressive.  However, their birthrates are declining quickly and the average lifespan(largely due to vodka consumption) is barely above 50 years old.  They also have a dwindling population sitting within a resource-rich landmass...with a huge Chinese population to the south that would love to take a chunk of that land.

China will not be a threat either.  Like their shoddy and defective products, their economy is as well put together.  Their annual growth rate is a sham and will collapse like a cheap card table.

India?  They are a third world country where millions of people still do not have access to clean water.

[headhuntersix]

ummm, where exactly did you get 25%?  it's like less than 5%, here look at this
ftp://ftp.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324122/Russian-troops-return-Afghanistan-Gorbachev-warns-Nato-victory-impossible.html

most of the OPEC share of the oil comes from saudi which we are still on fairly good terms with. i don't know anything about iraq's "future capacity", i do know our own domestic potential is probably far greater  not to mention there's dozens of other places we could buy from to make up for that 5%. if i wanted to get more oil i can think of tons of better ways to do it than engaging in lengthy 4 trillion dollar wars and alienating the world community.

quite simply i don't buy the fact that we are trying to "capture" iraq for their oil resources in the some plot to have oil for when the rest of the world runs out, even if that were the case it would be much easier to develop our own resources, then if perhaps we start running low in the future THEN we could invade iraq and have much more support from the general population.

the thing about americans is that they are all fat fucks that like to eat mcdonalds and drive their their gas-guzzling SUVs, sure they say "no blood for oil now" but trust me, when prices skyrocket to $10/gal and it costs like 30 dollars to drive little timmy to soccer practice, they'll be crying for blood like ravenous beasts.

Again...there are no Russian troops re-deployed to Afghanistan...but if I see any I'll let you know as I'll be there in less then 30 days. I also spent a year in Kirkuk. Iraq...a major center or Iraqi oil production so I know a bit about their capacity, and its growing. I never said we invaded Iraq for their oil and we don't control it or the country anyway...but the middle east has been our primary concern since the late 40's.  I love my SUV and if I have to deploy 10 more times to ensure the price of gas is low, then fine...but whether we're there or not, they will still hate us.