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Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« on: March 28, 2012, 12:58:08 PM »
Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
By ASHLEY PARKER

The elder George Bush is set to officially endorse Mitt Romney in Houston on Thursday, campaign officials confirmed.

Though Mr. Bush had “unofficially” endorsed Mr. Romney in December, calling him “the best choice for us,” the official endorsement in Texas comes as the Republican establishment is beginning to coalesce around Mr. Romney, who has been making the case that the delegate math is on his side to capture the party’s presidential nomination.

Though George W. Bush, the family’s other former president, has yet to officially weigh in on the 2012 race, support for Mr. Romney has become something of a Bush family affair.

A week ago, former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida threw his support behind Mr. Romney, calling him after his victory in the Illinois primary to offer his endorsement.

“Now is the time for Republicans to unite behind Governor Romney and take our message of fiscal conservatism and job creation to all voters this fall,” Jeb Bush said in a statement announcing his endorsement.

And this month, Barbara Bush, the former first lady, recorded a round of automated calls for Mr. Romney in Ohio and Vermont. (At the time, the often sharp-tongued Mrs. Bush made sure to point out in a phone call with Fox News that, while she thinks Mr. Romney “is a great man, would be a great choice,” she had not formally endorsed him yet.)

Mr. Romney has some connections to the elder George Bush. His father, George W. Romney, the former governor of Michigan, was close to Mr. Bush, and Ron Kaufman, a senior adviser to Mr. Romney, is a longtime friend of Mr. Bush and worked in his White House.

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2012, 01:00:11 PM »
That dog is scared shitless of riding home with mitt.

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2012, 01:01:35 PM »
Now, he needs the endorsement of Bush and Cheney to seal the deal!  ;D

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 01:41:03 PM »
Now, he needs the endorsement of Bush and Cheney to seal the deal!  ;D
Theres a Star Wars "dark side" joke in here somewhere.

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 01:45:24 PM »
I guarantee you we will not see a public endorsement from Bush or Cheney!  :D

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 01:55:51 PM »
I guarantee you we will not see a public endorsement from Bush or Cheney!  :D
LOL.
Whats your take on the election this year Bay?
I dont really know what to do. Romney worries me (mostly cause Im scared of what Romney is going to be in the WH) but I really, really hate Obama's stance and record......

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 07:42:17 PM »
LOL.
Whats your take on the election this year Bay?
I dont really know what to do. Romney worries me (mostly cause Im scared of what Romney is going to be in the WH) but I really, really hate Obama's stance and record......

My take is this: the choice is never "Jesus Christ" or "These Flawed Candidates."  Your choice is "These Flawed Candidates."  And from these flawed Candidates . . . you have a decision to make.  

Perhaps you'd care to go back to December 2008 when the country was falling off a cliff?  
to a time when people could be denied health insurance coverage due to a preexisting condition?
to a time when coverage could be dropped or capped because you dared to get sick?
to a time when stem cell research was put on hold?
to a time when millions of dollars in student loan money went to banks (in the form of subsidies) instead of to students?
to a time when Wall Street had to bailed out with your tax dollars?
to a time when the US was reviled around the world--even by our allies?
to a time when two fewer women were on the Supreme Court?
to a time when the totally unnecessary war in Iraq was going on without end?
to a time when Osama was still free at large?
to a time when US jobs were... need I go on?  ::)
 
Romney is a disaster.  There was an excellent alternative (to Obama) in the form of John Huntsman.  He was a successful governor winning re-election with 77.7% of the vote and leaving office with his approval ratings over 80%.  Romeny could not even win a second term.

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 09:16:48 PM »
you need to educate yourself on the issues is what you need to do, you think that obama wasnt part of the cause and he helped improve things.

Sir you are sadly mistaken....

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2012, 06:02:02 AM »
My take is this: the choice is never "Jesus Christ" or "These Flawed Candidates."  Your choice is "These Flawed Candidates."  And from these flawed Candidates . . . you have a decision to make.  

Perhaps you'd care to go back to December 2008 when the country was falling off a cliff?  
to a time when people could be denied health insurance coverage due to a preexisting condition?
to a time when coverage could be dropped or capped because you dared to get sick?
to a time when stem cell research was put on hold?
to a time when millions of dollars in student loan money went to banks (in the form of subsidies) instead of to students?
to a time when Wall Street had to bailed out with your tax dollars?
to a time when the US was reviled around the world--even by our allies?
to a time when two fewer women were on the Supreme Court?
to a time when the totally unnecessary war in Iraq was going on without end?
to a time when Osama was still free at large?
to a time when US jobs were... need I go on?  ::)
 
Romney is a disaster.  There was an excellent alternative (to Obama) in the form of John Huntsman.  He was a successful governor winning re-election with 77.7% of the vote and leaving office with his approval ratings over 80%.  Romeny could not even win a second term.

I agree with you, Romney is a disaster. A lot of the things you wrote, some of them I agree with, others I dont, a few I dont really believe was Obama's doing, and some I actually think he hindered.

Im against Obamacare. Whole heartedly. I think we need something better than what we had before, but Obamacare is not it.
Osama to me is a non-issue, he'd be dead regardless of who is holding the office right now.
Women on the supreme court is a good thing. Kudos.
War was set to end anyway. All Obama did was made sure it happened. (And late as well. From what I've read. I could be wrong)
I hate Obama's foreign policy. Again, there is a better way than to just try and buy friends or to lick their boots.
Stem Cell research I am 100% for. Credit there.
Student Loan money going to the students I agree with.
And I dont agree with the stimulous.

Just MHO of course. I respect your opinions Bay, its always good to see a fair level headed counterpoint.

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2012, 07:39:46 AM »
My take is this: the choice is never "Jesus Christ" or "These Flawed Candidates."  Your choice is "These Flawed Candidates."  And from these flawed Candidates . . . you have a decision to make.  

Perhaps you'd care to go back to December 2008 when the country was falling off a cliff?  
to a time when people could be denied health insurance coverage due to a preexisting condition?
to a time when coverage could be dropped or capped because you dared to get sick?
to a time when stem cell research was put on hold?
to a time when millions of dollars in student loan money went to banks (in the form of subsidies) instead of to students?
to a time when Wall Street had to bailed out with your tax dollars?
to a time when the US was reviled around the world--even by our allies?
to a time when two fewer women were on the Supreme Court?
to a time when the totally unnecessary war in Iraq was going on without end?
to a time when Osama was still free at large?
to a time when US jobs were... need I go on?  ::)
 
Romney is a disaster.  There was an excellent alternative (to Obama) in the form of John Huntsman.  He was a successful governor winning re-election with 77.7% of the vote and leaving office with his approval ratings over 80%.  Romeny could not even win a second term.


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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 07:41:17 AM »
+1


FAIL - more empty slogans and bumper sticker bullshit for the dummies like yourself to eat up like pie. 

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2012, 07:42:29 AM »

FAIL - more empty slogans and bumper sticker bullshit for the dummies like yourself to eat up like pie. 

So you think we were better of in 2008? Come on ::)

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2012, 07:46:31 AM »
So you think we were better of in 2008? Come on ::)

What does that have to do with anything?  By what measure are we better off other than the Dow # which is a ponzi scam. 


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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2012, 07:48:26 AM »
What does that have to do with anything?  By what measure are we better off other than the Dow # which is a ponzi scam. 



Its has to do with everything

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2012, 07:49:21 AM »
Its has to do with everything


LOL!!!!! 

Go vote for hopey changey asshole - obama voters deserve each other to wallow in their collective disgrace and illiteracy and incompetence. 

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2012, 08:24:28 AM »
Its has to do with everything

Not in La-La Land.  Remember in that place, the fake birth certificate is the shining hope that is going to defeat Obama.

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2012, 08:40:14 AM »
Perhaps you'd care to go back to December 2008 when the country was falling off a cliff? 

WE HAD A CREDIT CRISIS RESULTING FROM POLICIES THAT OBAMA/BUSH BOTH SUPPORTED AND BY PEOPLE WHO FUNDED HIS CAMPAIGN AND HE APPOINTED TO HIS CABINET.   



to a time when people could be denied health insurance coverage due to a preexisting condition?


OBAMACARE IS GOING TO BE REPEALED AS IT CONTAINS AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE


to a time when coverage could be dropped or capped because you dared to get sick?


OBAMACARE IS GOING DOWN DUE TO OBAMA/REID/PELOSI INCOMPETENCE


to a time when stem cell research was put on hold?

REAL CRISIS RIGHT THERE FOR SURE!   ::)  ::)




to a time when millions of dollars in student loan money went to banks (in the form of subsidies) instead of to students?


HUH???   WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN OTHER THAN NOW THE TAXPAYER IS MORE ON THE HOOK FOR STUDENT LOANS?   


to a time when Wall Street had to bailed out with your tax dollars?


GEITHNER, SUMMERS, BERNAKE, GENTSLER, CORZINE, IMMELT, ET AL????  ONAMA SUPPORTED TARP AND FLEW IN TO DC TO SUPPORT IT REMEMBER?   DODD FRANK ENSHRINED TOO BIG TO FAIL AND THE BANKS ARE SOLELY FUNCTIONAL AND VIABLE DUE TO THE CARRY TRADE.   




to a time when the US was reviled around the world--even by our allies?


LOL.   I GUESS RUSSIA LOVES US NOW SINCE BARACK TOLD THEM HE WILL GIVE AWAY THE STORE.  CHINA LOVES HIM BECAUSE HE SPENDING BORROWED MONEY LIKE CRAZY.  OPEC NATIONS LOVE HIM SINCE HE REFUSES TO ACCEPT DOMESTIC ENERGY AND KEEPS THE PRICE OF OIL HIGH THROUGH INFLATION AND HIS COMMUNIST POLICIES. 


to a time when two fewer women were on the Supreme Court?

THAT KAGAN IS A REAL PRIZE ISNT SHE? 


to a time when the totally unnecessary war in Iraq was going on without end?


FUCKING PLEASE.  WE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT TO LEAVE UNDER THE BUSH ADMN AND WE WERE FORCED OUT SINCE THE IRAQI PM COULD NOT GUARANTY LEGAL IMMUNITY FOR OUR REMAINING TROOPS.   


to a time when Osama was still free at large?


 ::)   OBAMA WAS A HINDERANCE TO THAT OPERATION, NOT THE MAIN PLAYER WHO GOT HIM.   


to a time when US jobs were... need I go on?  


LOL.  LABOR PARTICIPATION RATE IS AT 30 YEARS LOW, 40 MILLION + ON FOOD STAMPS, ETC.   

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2012, 01:06:02 PM »
Im against Obamacare. Whole heartedly. I think we need something better than what we had before, but Obamacare is not it.

It’s convenient (even fun) to be “against” things, but even as you draw a breath to criticize the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) of 2010 ask yourself why critics of the Act never proffered a credible alternative in the fifty years leading up to it.  It’s not as if GOP Presidents (Bush, Bush, Reagan, Ford, Nixon, Eisenhower) tried to do anything meaningful about healthcare even as costs swelled to the point of choking our economy and millions of people found themselves without coverage, dropped coverage, or denied coverage due to preexisting conditions.  They have had plenty of opportunities to do so over generations, but critics today did nothing on this issue when they had the chance to do so; our choice was this Act or continuing with the status quo.  Even with its imperfections I prefer Obamacare.  That said, it is not a final solution; it can and should be refined going forward.

This unnamed, undescribed, “better” thing you are wishing for (to call on my previous metaphor) is Jesus Christ; simply wishing for something “better” is not very sophisticated of you, and it suggests that you do not really understand what it takes to move legislation.  Tell me, have you spent much time in Washington DC?  On the Hill?  Would you every consider running for public office?  

Osama to me is a non-issue, he'd be dead regardless of who is holding the office right now.
War was set to end anyway. All Obama did was made sure it happened. (And late as well. From what I've read. I could be wrong)
I hate Obama's foreign policy. Again, there is a better way than to just try and buy friends or to lick their boots.
And I dont agree with the stimulous.


To say that Osama is a non-issue suggests that you did not lose a friend or family member on 9/11 and you have not lost loved ones in Iraq and Afghanistan.  For you, the conflict over the past 10 years has been merely theoretical.  You are fortunate to live in such comfort; your sentiment reminds me of Bush who casually declared that (after spectacularly failing to capture him) he didn’t know nor care where Osama was.  No one who has loved ones in the military would feel that way.  For many Americans finding Osama and holding him accountable for masterminding 9/11 remained a top priority.  Like Bush, you were not one of them.  So be it.

The war in Iraq was not “set to end.” if you believe that then you are truly out of touch.  Perhaps you have forgotten the disastrous leadership of Bush/Cheney and Rumsfeld in particular?  So be it.

Given a choice between foreign policy under Obama/Hillary Clinton and that of Bush/Condoleezza Rice the choice for me is obvious.  Your memory of the successes and failures of the Bush years is evidently very different from mine.

I don’t think anyone is a fan of the stimulus, but the fact that we needed one (a big one) underscores just how far off the cliff our country had fallen.  I don’t have to remind you who was responsible for that.  The charts above show who is responsible for turning it around.

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2012, 01:11:42 PM »
It’s convenient (even fun) to be “against” things, but even as you draw a breath to criticize the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) of 2010 ask yourself why critics of the Act never proffered a credible alternative in the fifty years leading up to it.  It’s not as if GOP Presidents (Bush, Bush, Reagan, Ford, Nixon, Eisenhower) tried to do anything meaningful about healthcare even as costs swelled to the point of choking our economy and millions of people found themselves without coverage, dropped coverage, or denied coverage due to preexisting conditions.  They have had plenty of opportunities to do so over generations, but critics today did nothing on this issue when they had the chance to do so; our choice was this Act or a return to the status quo.  Even with its imperfections I prefer Obamacare.  That said, it is not a final solution; it can and should be refined going forward.

This unnamed, undescribed, “better” thing you are wishing for (to call on my previous metaphor) is Jesus Christ; simply wishing for something “better” is not very sophisticated of you, and it suggests that you do not really understand what it takes to move legislation.  Tell me, have you spent much time in Washington DC?  On the Hill?  Would you every consider running for public office?  


To stay that Osama is a non-issue suggests that you did not lose a friend or family member on 9/11 and you have lost loved ones in Iraq and Afghanistan.  For you, the conflict over the past 10 years has been merely theoretical.  You are fortunate to live in such comfort; your sentiment reminds me of Bush who casually declared that (after spectacularly failing to capture him) he didn’t know nor care where Osama was.  No one who has loved ones in the military would feel that way.  For many Americans finding Osama and holding him accountable for masterminding 9/11 remained a top priority.  Like Bush, you were not one of them.  So be it.

The war in Iraq was not “set to end.” if you believe that then you are truly out of touch.  Perhaps you have forgotten the disastrous leadership of Bush/Cheney and Rumsfeld in particular?  So be it.

Given a choice between foreign policy under Obama/Hillary Clinton and that of Bush/Condoleezza Rice the choice for me is obvious.  Your memory of the successes and failures of the Bush years is evidently very different from mine.

I don’t think anyone is a fan of the stimulus, but the fact that we needed one (a big one) underscores just how far off the cliff our country had fallen.  I don’t have to remind you who was responsible for that.  The charts above show who is responsible for turning it around.


Your entire post about Obamacare is meaningless. The overwhelming majority of the country wants it gone and the Supreme Court looks set to do that. Your starry-eyed viewpoints on it show how clueless you are. It will bankrupt this country and it does nothing to address the problems with healthcare. You don't take a broken system and throw 30 million more people into it and then play accounting games to hide the fact that it will bankrupt the US.

Osama was killed as a result of wheels set in motion almost half a decade ago when US intelligence first became aware of the courier. You're going to run a presidential campaign on that? As the one-week bump in Obama's numbers proved last year, no one cares and you're certainly not going to find people placing more weight on that than high gas prices.



I'll take someone who has to run for reelection over an idiot who doesn't have to worry about that.

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2012, 02:13:29 PM »
Makes sense

George HW Bush was a HUGE supporter of Planned Parenthood for many years (his nickname in Congress was "Rubbers) and had no problem reversing this deeply held conviction for political expediency

Mitt has this same pathetic quality

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2012, 03:22:12 PM »


To say that Osama is a non-issue suggests that you did not lose a friend or family member on 9/11 and you have not lost loved ones in Iraq and Afghanistan.  For you, the conflict over the past 10 years has been merely theoretical.  You are fortunate to live in such comfort; your sentiment reminds me of Bush who casually declared that (after spectacularly failing to capture him) he didn’t know nor care where Osama was.  No one who has loved ones in the military would feel that way.  For many Americans finding Osama and holding him accountable for masterminding 9/11 remained a top priority.  Like Bush, you were not one of them.  So be it.

The war in Iraq was not “set to end.” if you believe that then you are truly out of touch.  Perhaps you have forgotten the disastrous leadership of Bush/Cheney and Rumsfeld in particular?  So be it.

Given a choice between foreign policy under Obama/Hillary Clinton and that of Bush/Condoleezza Rice the choice for me is obvious.  Your memory of the successes and failures of the Bush years is evidently very different from mine.

I don’t think anyone is a fan of the stimulus, but the fact that we needed one (a big one) underscores just how far off the cliff our country had fallen.  I don’t have to remind you who was responsible for that.  The charts above show who is responsible for turning it around.

This is a huge assumption, as I was a Marine several of my friends are no longer with us because of that war. So you are waaayyy off base here.
Osama is a non-issue with me in regards to the Presidency. Obama did not write up the plans or gather the intel, nor did he make the strategy or start the manhunt.  The military that had been hunting him for 2 administrations did that, he simply said go. To me, thats not his presidency decisions that caught Osama. I wouldnt give credit to Bush either. The fact remains, unless Mccain totally called off the manhunt and the war, Osama will still have been found and killed. Im not going to base a yes or no vote for a president based on something that he had no real hand in and very little control over (besides giving the op a thumbs up). Again, JMHO.

From what I have read, there was a timetable to start the pullout of Iraq and Afghanistan. Whether Mccain would have followed it or not, I do not know. Obama did ahere (mostly) to the timetable, so I cant really fault him for that.

My memory of foreign policy isnt flawed - I do remember how hated we were under Bush/Cheney (And yes I do think its disastrous). However, Id prefer to be hated than have a president willing to give away the information on our missle defense system in order to buy "friendship". Especially when the point of that defense system is a way to protect us from possible Iranian missles. If our options are war with Iran, or putting up a missle system and having Russia being a bit ticked, Ill take the latter. Which, BTW, doesnt explain why we care so much that Russia is scared that we can defend ourselves from their missles. We are literally letting them tell us that we cant have a system to stop them from shooting ICBM's at us, which makes no sense to me.

Anyway, to me, Obama's foreign policy is equivalent to getting down on his knees and giving our enemies whatever they want so they will like us, and marginalizing our allies (Not to mean that I dont think we need to reign in Israel, we do). I dont believe in bowing to everyone to make friends. However, I also dont believe in being the worlds police or giving everyone the finger. My preference is more of a "Speak softly and carry a big stick" type attitude.

The whole Obamacare debacle stems from my staunch belief that its highly unconstitutional. The government should NOT be able to force citizens to engage in commerce with a private party, period. Do we need some sort of reform? Of course, but mandating that all citizens buy insurance is not it. Penalyzing them for not buying insurance from a certain business is absurd. Not to mention that theyre using it to mandate absurd things, like sterilization and abortion coverage for those that dont want it. The idea in theory is ok, but in reality its just a huge power grab by the federal government. I had something else that was really important to me but now its slipped my mind.
I really dont like the precedent it sets for Congress to be able to force citizens into commerce. So much of the bill is just wrong, and it heavily outweighs the good parts. They took a good idea and just went horribly, horribly wrong.
Oh, and how about penalzying people for having insurance through the employers? Hitting them with a premium tax? How about cutting tricare to try and force people onto Obamacare? Why not just let people that have their own insurance keep that? Why are they so hell bent on pushing people onto Obamacare? Only reason I can see is that A.The big companies are going to save money by not offering insurance to employees, and B.Obama's buddies in the companies that offer Obamacare make money.
Its not that its "cool", or "hip" for me to be against it, its that its WRONG, and IMHO, its almost worse than having people have no insurance. Either way were paying for their bills, but one is forcing all kinds of things onto citizens and gives waaayyy to much power to the Federal Government.

BTW, I dont think that by voting out Obama, suddenly everything is going to go back to 2008 either Bay.

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2012, 03:27:26 PM »
Makes sense

George HW Bush was a HUGE supporter of Planned Parenthood for many years (his nickname in Congress was "Rubbers) and had no problem reversing this deeply held conviction for political expediency

Mitt has this same pathetic quality
I hate Mitt.

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2012, 02:33:53 PM »
Shockwave, have you spent any time in Washington or in your own state Capitol?  Would you ever run for public office?

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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2012, 02:46:43 PM »
LOL. the elder Bush may be endorsing Romney, ...but six of Romney's family members are endorsing Ron Paul!

Gotta love it!
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Re: Elder George Bush to Endorse Romney
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2012, 03:15:42 PM »
Shockwave, have you spent any time in Washington or in your own state Capitol?  Would you ever run for public office?
Yes, I have been in DC a couple times. State capitol? No.
No, I wouldnt ever run for public office. I have no tolerance for playing politics, I couldnt do what is necessary to be a politician. I would never last in Washington, because I couldnt play the "game", as it were.

I dislike the extremists on both sides. I cant seem to understand how our candidates keep drifting further and further from the center, if we could find a nice middle ground candidate, people would cross party lines on both sides. It almost feels like they (over the course of many years), have been intentionally dividing us because its creates a way to have a dedicated base, rather than trying to unite voters, they seek to divide us.
And it seems like everyone is ready to throw the constitution to the wayside in favor of pandering to extreme left/right "hot button" issues rather than focusing on working forward on the economy.
I am also a staunch believer in people being able to make their own decisions about how they live their lives (Obviously within reason).