George Zimmerman's father claims Trayvon Martin beat his son, threatened his lif

[240 is Back]

Yesterday, I predicted Zimmerman's account of the fight woudl contain phrases that were rright out of a textbook - I feared for my life, he said he was going to kill me, i was about to black out, etc.   well, sure enough, his dad comes out with the exact wording required to justify a shooting.   You could not list more perfect phrasing for it.  Coincidence I guess.

Oh, and the 911 tapes picking up all the screams didn't hear any of these threats, nor did any witnesses.  


LAKE MARY, Fla. –  In the moments before Florida neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman fatally shot 17-year-old unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, the teen slammed Zimmerman's head into the ground and threatened his life, Zimmerman's father claims.
 
In an exclusive interview with myFOXorlando, Robert Zimmerman detailed his son's account of the night, claiming Martin beat his son for over a minute and told him something along the lines of, "You're going to die tonight."

When asked why the recording picked up screams for help but not the alleged threats by Martin, Robert Zimmerman said he does not know.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/29/george-zimmermans-father-claims-trayvon-martin-beat-his-son-threatened-his-life/#ixzz1qWl9115e

I dunno, i spent the late 90s, early 2000s on the militant message boards - shooting, alt.survival, all those.  And man, they talk about that shit nonstop.  What to say, what not to say.  You kinda become programmed with it.  After the shoot - "I feared for my life", "He said he was going to kill me", "I could not retreat any more", "I was about to lose consciousness".  If you call the police, you never say about a dozen things, but you always lay the framework for your fear, escalating steps by the BG (bad guy), and you clearly express your fear.   There's tons more.  Seriously - those little pockets of gun lovers are VERY clear about what to say to make it a legal shoot.  I would LOVE to see the interview with him after the shoot (will it be released eventually?) cause watch - i bet it will contain the stuff I wrote here. 

33, surely you spend a lot of time on the gun forums, and you have heard convo about how to keep ones ass outta jail on a shoot. 

[Calloway]

They are probably being advised what to say, especially since the cops and D.A are now living or dying on this case, too.

I think the kid did get aggressive with Zimmerman, and like most Barney Fife type characters that are actually cowards at heart, Zimmerman got scared and shot him.  I would bet any money at all that is exactly what happened.  How much of a beating Zimmerman took before shooting, if he took amy beating at all, will never be known for sure.

This is the only explanation that makes sense at all.

[Shockwave]

They are probably being advised what to say, especially since the cops and D.A are now living or dying on this case, too.

I think the kid did get aggressive with Zimmerman, and like most Barney Fife type characters that are actually cowards at heart, Zimmerman got scared and shot him.  I would bet any money at all that is exactly what happened.  How much of a beating Zimmerman took before shooting, if he took amy beating at all, will never be known for sure.

This is the only explanation that makes sense at all.

Dude had a huge gash on the top of his head. He took a beating.
My theory.
They exchanged words, and TM attacked him. He had enough of the elemnt of suprise to get Zimmerman on his back, and started pounding his head into the pavement. Zimmerman probably panicked. Kid may or may not have gone for the gun (probably did, maybe not with the intention to shoot), Zimmerman's went into fight or flight mode (read: stop thinking, panic mode, animal reaction), as his head was being slammed on the pavement grabbed the gun and shot TM.

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Dude had a huge gash on the top of his head. He took a beating.
My theory.
They exchanged words, and TM attacked him. He had enough of the elemnt of suprise to get Zimmerman on his back, and started pounding his head into the pavement. Zimmerman probably panicked. Kid may or may not have gone for the gun (probably did, maybe not with the intention to shoot), Zimmerman's went into fight or flight mode (read: stop thinking, panic mode, animal reaction), as his head was being slammed on the pavement grabbed the gun and shot TM.

then i wish he could just say that.

You know what angers me more than politicians with shitty policy or actions - is when they LIE about it.  I didn't care that Cain was a frisky devil, but I did take offense when he said "I have never done ANYTHING inappropriate in 43 years". 

It's insulting when people lie and tell that bullshit with a straight face.  I'll take an honest asshole than a lying kiss-ass anyday. 

So when I hear that 911 call, I KNOW zimmerman is hamming it up.
When I hear his dad say all those textbook phrases, i KNOW his ass is lying.

THAT is what makes my blood boil - not the shoot - but the fact that cawksucker is lying about it - and putting permit owners rights in jeopardy too.  I'm not screaming "oh that poor baby trayvon..."    I'm more critical of this prick lying thru his teeth cause he wanted to cap those "fucking assholes" as he put it.

He set the stage verbally, entered a confrontation angry (no denying that!), shot a kid, then delivered textbook phrases afterward.
I bet he claimed he wasn't angry too

[Calloway]

yes, I do believe the black kid became aggressive

also believe a guy like Zimmerman should have never had a gun

[Shockwave]

then i wish he could just say that.

You know what angers me more than politicians with shitty policy or actions - is when they LIE about it.  I didn't care that Cain was a frisky devil, but I did take offense when he said "I have never done ANYTHING inappropriate in 43 years".  

It's insulting when people lie and tell that bullshit with a straight face.  I'll take an honest asshole than a lying kiss-ass anyday.  

So when I hear that 911 call, I KNOW zimmerman is hamming it up.
When I hear his dad say all those textbook phrases, i KNOW his ass is lying.

THAT is what makes my blood boil - not the shoot - but the fact that cawksucker is lying about it - and putting permit owners rights in jeopardy too.  I'm not screaming "oh that poor baby trayvon..."    I'm more critical of this prick lying thru his teeth cause he wanted to cap those "fucking assholes" as he put it.

He set the stage verbally, entered a confrontation angry (no denying that!), shot a kid, then delivered textbook phrases afterward.
I bet he claimed he wasn't angry too

Probably because if it ever went to court, good luck getting a fair trial.
Im pretty sure at this point theyre all just worried about appearance. Zimmerman will never be safe, not until this dies down. And the only way to make sure he isnt murdered by some fucking idiot is to do what theyre doing. Theyve already determined that he acted in self defense, he committed no crime that they can find evidence for (to arrest him right away), so its just a matter of calming the public down so they can do their job. (Read; investigation and possible trial)

Damage control. Even if he was 100% in the right, many will still want him dead. Its all damage control.

[Soul Crusher]

Zimmerman will still be dealing with a civil judgment and trial for decades. 

[Shockwave]

Zimmerman will still be dealing with a civil judgment and trial for decades. 

This.
The shitty part is he will NEVER get a fair jury if it goes that far.
The whole fucking country thinks he's guilty, all because of the spin the media put on this.
But hey, wants one more life destroyed compared to the ratings it will garner?!

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do you guys BELIEVE his dad, that treyvon said those things?

or do you think he's lying?

[Shockwave]

do you guys BELIEVE his dad, that treyvon said those things?

or do you think he's lying?

Dont know.
Doesnt really matter one way or the other.
Probably just trying to make sure his son isnt drug through the coals more than he is already going to be.
May just be embellishing to make a point.
We dont know. Really, it doesnt matter, its not like if he didnt say those things suddenly its a crime.

[Fury]

The faux outrage over this incident really takes the piss. Here we have one McDonald's eating skinny/fat douche bag, who hypocritically follows and shakes down strangers in his own trailer park, still trying to drum up lynch mob support for one shooting out of countless others.

I really need to sign up for Media Matters emails so I can save myself the time of coming here to see their daily talking points.

[Skip8282]

Yesterday, I predicted Zimmerman's account of the fight woudl contain phrases that were rright out of a textbook - I feared for my life, he said he was going to kill me, i was about to black out, etc.   well, sure enough, his dad comes out with the exact wording required to justify a shooting.   You could not list more perfect phrasing for it.  Coincidence I guess.

Oh, and the 911 tapes picking up all the screams didn't hear any of these threats, nor did any witnesses. 


LAKE MARY, Fla. –  In the moments before Florida neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman fatally shot 17-year-old unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, the teen slammed Zimmerman's head into the ground and threatened his life, Zimmerman's father claims.
 
In an exclusive interview with myFOXorlando, Robert Zimmerman detailed his son's account of the night, claiming Martin beat his son for over a minute and told him something along the lines of, "You're going to die tonight."

When asked why the recording picked up screams for help but not the alleged threats by Martin, Robert Zimmerman said he does not know.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/29/george-zimmermans-father-claims-trayvon-martin-beat-his-son-threatened-his-life/#ixzz1qWl9115e

You didn't predict shit douche, this claims been out since the story broke. 

Parroting <> Predicting.

Even more pathetic, you've got NO IDEA as to whether or not he was or wasn't.

[Soul Crusher]

The faux outrage over this incident really takes the piss. Here we have one McDonald's eating skinny/fat douche bag, who hypocritically follows and shakes down strangers in his own trailer park, still trying to drum up lynch mob support for one shooting out of countless others.

I really need to sign up for Media Matters emails so I can save myself the time of coming here to see their daily talking points.

I'm so sick of this story already.  We had the biggest case in our lifetimes at SC this week and this is the bullshit we are focused on? 

[Shockwave]

I'm so sick of this story already.  We had the biggest case in our lifetimes at SC this week and this is the bullshit we are focused on? 

Obamacare?
Who cares!
A BLACK KID WAS KILLED! ZOMG!!! AND HE WAS KILLED BY A NON BLACK!!! ZOMG END OF WORLD!!

[Fury]

I'm so sick of this story already.  We had the biggest case in our lifetimes at SC this week and this is the bullshit we are focused on? 

Exactly. It's stunning that this is what the sheeple prefer to talk about. 

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"I was about to lose consciousness".

Tonight, Zimmerman's brother says Zimmerman had been "barely conscious" when he pulled the trigger.

Read more: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/032912-police-video-shows-george-zimmerman-following-trayvon-martin-shooting#ixzz1qZjRCRda

HAHAHAAHAH I guess they left that one out - had to go back on the news and make sure he included that oh-so-important consciousness claim.

Seriously guys, I listed the textbook shit he would claim to stay legal, and he's 4/4 on it now.  Unreal.