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Re: Obama vs Romney
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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #726 on: August 23, 2012, 03:13:50 PM »
Kazan you are cracking me up dude.   ;D


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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #727 on: August 23, 2012, 03:14:44 PM »
Looks like a pretty big "Ryan bounce" in this poll. 


Fox News poll: Race for the White House tightens
By Dana Blanton
Published August 23, 2012
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Less than a week before the Republican convention begins, the race for the White House is a virtual tie.  According to a Fox News poll of likely voters, the Mitt Romney-Paul Ryan ticket receives the backing of 45 percent, while the Barack Obama-Joe Biden ticket garners 44 percent. 

The poll, released Thursday, is the first Fox has conducted among likely voters this year, which means an apples-to-apples comparison can’t be made to previous polls.  Likely voters are eligible/registered voters who will most likely cast a ballot in this year’s presidential election. 

This is also the first Fox poll to ask about the top and bottom of the major party tickets:  Democrats Obama and Vice President Joe Biden against Republicans Romney and Paul Ryan.  Romney announced his vice presidential pick of Wisconsin Rep. Ryan on August 11.

Both tickets have already gained the support of many of their key voting blocs.  Romney has the edge among white Evangelical Christians (70-18 percent), white voters (53-36 percent), married voters (51-38 percent), men (48-40 percent) and seniors (50-41 percent).

Obama has the advantage among black voters (86-6 percent), women (48-42 percent), lower income households (53-35 percent), young voters (48-39 percent) and unmarried voters (55-34 percent).

Independents back Romney by 42-32 percent (one in four is undecided).  Independents were vital to Obama’s 2008 victory, backing him over Republican John McCain by 52-44 percent (Fox News exit poll).

About one voter in ten is undecided or says they’ll vote for someone other than Obama and Romney.  Among just those voters, 55 percent disapprove of the job Obama is doing and only 17 percent think the country has changed for the better in the last four years. 

Among undecided voters Romney is viewed more negatively than positively by 28 percentage points, while Obama is viewed more negatively by 12 points. 

The poll shows Romney supporters are more enthusiastic.  By an 11 percentage-point margin the challenger’s backers are more likely to be “extremely” interested in the election, and by 10 points they’re more likely to think it’s “extremely” important their candidate wins. 

Meanwhile, voters think neither candidate is sticking to the high road.  Small majorities say Romney (58 percent) and Obama (57 percent) will say and do just about anything to win in November.

On the big issue of last week, slightly more voters trust the Democratic ticket (by three points) to do a better job protecting Medicare and ensuring it’s there for future generations.

When asked who they trust to improve the economy and create jobs, voters favor the Republican ticket by two points -- a surprisingly slim margin in light of President Obama’s negative ratings on the issue. 

By 54-42 percent, more voters disapprove than approve of Obama’s handling of the economy.  His overall job performance stands at 46 percent approve and 50 percent disapprove. 

In addition, by a 17-point margin voters say the country has changed for the worse in the last four years rather than for the better (46-29 percent).  One in four says it hasn’t changed much either way.

A slightly larger number of voters say they will be more confident their financial situation will improve if Romney (38 percent) is elected than if Obama is re-elected (33 percent).  Still, majorities don’t have confidence things will get better for their family either way. 

All in all, 51 percent of likely voters view Obama favorably and 46 percent unfavorably.  For Romney it’s 49 percent favorable and 44 percent unfavorable. 

The vice presidential running mates are on roughly equal footing with each other.  Some 46 percent of voters have a favorable opinion of Biden, while 45 percent view Ryan positively.  One in five likely voters isn’t familiar enough with Ryan yet to have an opinion. 

By a 10-point margin, voters are more likely to say Ryan than Biden is the “stronger” vice presidential candidate.  Even so, voters are just as likely to say they would feel “comfortable” with Biden (45 percent) as with Ryan (46 percent) if they had to step in as president

Obama’s favorable rating is down six points and Biden’s is down nine points from the favorable ratings they had when elected in November 2008.

Still, none of the current slate of candidates can match the former first couple.  About two-thirds of voters have a favorable opinion of former President Bill Clinton (65 percent) and Sec. of State Hillary Clinton (64 percent).

And lastly, by a wide 46-point margin, voters think most members of the media want Obama (61 percent) to win the election rather than Romney (15 percent).

The Fox News poll is based on live telephone interviews on landlines and cell phones from August 19 to August 21 among 1,007 randomly-chosen likely voters nationwide.  Likely voters are registered voters who are considered most likely to vote in the November presidential election.  The poll is conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R).  For the total sample, it has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/23/fox-news-poll-race-for-white-house-tightens/

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #728 on: August 23, 2012, 07:09:43 PM »
Fox News poll of likely voters: Romney 45, Obama 44 (D+4 Sample)
Hotair ^ | 08/23/2012 | AllahPundit
Posted on August 23, 2012 7:48:37 PM EDT by SeekAndFind

Decent sample too: D+4, although I think actual turnout on election day might be a smidge narrower than that.

Romney leads by nine points among seniors and by 10 points among independents, and Romney voters are 11 points more likely to be "extremely" interested in the election than Obama supporters and 10 points more likely to say it's "extremely" important that their candidate wins. Second look at optimism?

About one voter in ten is undecided or says they’ll vote for someone other than Obama and Romney. Among just those voters, 55 percent disapprove of the job Obama is doing and only 17 percent think the country has changed for the better in the last four years.

Among undecided voters Romney is viewed more negatively than positively by 28 percentage points, while Obama is viewed more negatively by 12 points…

On the big issue of last week, slightly more voters trust the Democratic ticket (by three points) to do a better job protecting Medicare and ensuring it’s there for future generations.

When asked who they trust to improve the economy and create jobs, voters favor the Republican ticket by two points --- a surprisingly slim margin in light of President Obama’s negative ratings on the issue.

The good news is that the remaining undecideds out there take a dim view of The One’s presidency — unsurprisingly, or else they wouldn’t be undecided, right? The bad news is that Romney isn’t closing the deal yet. His favorable rating among them is gruesome, and among the overall electorate that’s a depressingly thin lead on the economy. But maybe that’s out of his hands: Some chunk of voters is surely still reserving judgment on O’s economic performance, waiting to see if there are any signs of real growth before election day. If he gets two more bad jobs reports, Romney’s margin on that question will open without him needing to utter a word.

As for Medicare, see why I said in the last post that it bears watching seniors vs. near-seniors?



It’s a 10-point swing from ages 55-64 to ages 65 and up. The only reason Obama leads on the Medicare question overall is because of the insanity of the under-35 group, a lower-turnout demographic. In fact, here’s the age breakdown on the question, “How important is it to you that the presidential candidate you are supporting win the election?”



Older, pro-Republican voters (as noted above, Romney leads by nine among seniors) are considerably more motivated than younger, pro-Obama ones (O leads by 13 among voters under age 35). Makes me wonder what sort of desperate youth pander The One might have waiting for September. Student-loan forgiveness, here we come!

One more data point for you. The first column is “fair,” the second “unfair”:

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #729 on: August 23, 2012, 10:33:48 PM »
Kazan you are cracking me up dude.   ;D



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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #730 on: August 24, 2012, 05:25:43 AM »


Strassel: The Silent Second-Term Agenda

Despite the Democrats' shellacking in 2010, the president moved left. Re-election in November will reinforce his view that he was correct to do so.



By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL


President Obama has a reputation for talking, but not necessarily for saying much. He has achieved new levels of vagueness this election season. Beyond repeating that he's in favor of making the "rich" pay for more government "investment," he hasn't offered a single new idea for a second term. This is deliberate.
 
The core of the Obama strategy is to make Americans worry that whatever Mitt Romney does, it will be worse. That's a harder case for Mr. Obama to make if he is himself proposing change. And so the Obama pitch is that this election is a choice between stability (giving Mr. Obama four more years to let his policies finally work) and upheaval (giving Mr. Romney four years to re-ruin the nation).
 
The pitch is profoundly dishonest. While the choice between four more years of Obama status quo and Mr. Romney is certainly vivid, it isn't accurate. The real contrast is between Mr. Romney's and Mr. Obama's future plans. And while the president hasn't revealed what those plans are, there is plenty of evidence for what a second term would look like.
 
Let's dispense with the obvious: An Obama second term will be foremost about higher taxes and greater spending. The president has been clear about the former and will consider victory in November a mandate to raise taxes on higher-income Americans and small businesses—at the least.
 
Meanwhile, no matter how the coming budget sequester sorts out, nobody should forget why it came into being: It was the result of Mr. Obama's refusal to consider any real changes to Social Security or Medicare. There will be no reason to budge in a second term. Absent reform to these drivers of debt, and given Mr. Obama's ambitions to further "invest" in education, energy and infrastructure, a second term means proposals for even broader and bigger tax hikes—and not just for his favorite targets. Continued and growing deficits are likely as well.







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Presidents often use re-election to revive leftover policy objectives. A New Yorker magazine article in June noted: "The President has said that the most important policy he could address in his second term is climate change." Such an unpopular policy focus might seem crazy if Republicans hold the House, but then again Mr. Obama will want an issue where he can press his advantage and blame an obstinate GOP. The president has to date been unconcerned by how his agenda hurts congressional Democrats; he's unlikely to begin caring once he has been re-elected.
 
Yet since the probable outcome of his approach would be continued gridlock, his real efforts will be devoted to fine-tuning the regulatory apparatus he has designed specifically to go around Congress—as the administration has done the past two years. The Environmental Protection Agency in particular will resurrect rules it delayed implementing before the election (see: costly ozone regulations) and move to take over new areas like natural-gas fracking.

The same goes for other agencies, from the Labor Department to the Securities and Exchange Commission. The National Labor Relations Board will continue to cement union dominance over employers. The Solyndras will continue. What Mr. Obama cannot accomplish via regulation, he will attempt through executive order—much as he did with his recent immigration directive.

Most voters understand that a second Obama term means the continuation of ObamaCare and the Dodd-Frank financial regulations. But there is also the carte blanche that re-election will give the president to supercharge those laws, which are only now entering key rulemaking periods. The same Obama appointees who have already taken vast liberties with these laws (see: HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius's ObamaCare slush fund) will be crafting the new regulations. The bureaucrats will also have four more years to put in place key civil servants who can be counted on to keep the rules going even past an Obama administration.
 
It is likely the Supreme Court will offer up another vacancy, and Mr. Obama might finally have his chance to shift the balance of the court. A slew of appellate-court positions are also in limbo as the campaign proceeds; they would be filled by a second-term Obama.
 
Just as important are the things Mr. Obama will not do. His record gives no indication he will revive America's leadership in free trade. Nor is he likely to restore America's influence in the international arena. And so we will inch closer to a nuclear-armed Iran and the threats that the regime will pose to international peace and order.
 
None of this is hyperbole. Mr. Obama is open about his tax aims, is proud of his spending and has never apologized for his regulatory ambitions. Despite a shellacking in the midterms, he moved left, and a November victory will reinforce his sense that he was correct to do so.
 
While Democrats will take careful pains in coming convention weeks to avoid outlining the president's intentions, they are sitting in plain sight. The real choice this fall will be between Mitt Romney's reform agenda and a Supersized Obama. No wonder the Democrats are keeping mum.
 
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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #731 on: August 24, 2012, 07:41:41 PM »
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40 Reasons Not To Re-Elect Barack Obama
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Posted on August 24, 2012 7:46:31 PM EDT by Kaslin

1) Obama took 700 billion dollars out of the Medicare program and put it into his wildly unpopular health care program. This is despite the fact that even Obama has admitted,

Medicare in particular will run out of money, and we will not be able to sustain that program no matter how much taxes go up.
Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will put that money back into the Medicare program where it belongs, while Obama won't.

2) Barack Obama's stimulus plan cost more than the Marshall Plan, the Louisiana Purchase, and putting a man on the moon — combined and it was a complete and utter failure -- more than 800 billion dollars that accomplished nothing of significance.

3) If Barack Obama is re-elected, Obamacare will go into effect in 2014. This will lead to huge doctor shortages, exploding health care costs, companies dropping insurance, death panels, much longer waits to see a doctor, and a dramatic deterioration in the quality of American medical care.

4) Do you believe that your taxes should go up in the next four years? Well, Barack Obama does,

"Nobody’s looking to raise taxes right now. We’re talking about potentially 2013 and the out years." — Barack Obama
5) Even the left-wingers at Politifact admit that Obama broke his promise to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term.

6) America lost its AAA credit rating for the first time since 1917 on Obama's watch.

7) Even though Barack Obama keeps blaming do-nothing Republicans for his myriad of failures, the Republicans in the House have passed multiple budgets while Barack Obama and the Democrats in the Senate haven't pushed a budget through in the last three years. That's a big deal because passing a budget is one of the most basic duties of Congress. A Congress that can't pass a budget is like a mechanic who can't handle an oil change.

8) Barack Obama called George Bush "unpatriotic" for adding so much to the debt. Yet, Obama added more debt in 3 years and 2 months than Bush did in both terms.

9) "Do you think it’s okay for Barack Obama’s campaign contributors at Solyndra to receive a 535 million dollar government loan, approved by one of Obama’s fundraisers, even though it was known that the company was in trouble and there was an excellent chance it wouldn’t be able to pay back the loan?"

10) Barack Obama is touting his interference on behalf of his union cronies at General Motors and Chevrolet as a big "success." The cost of that "success" for the taxpayers? 25 billion dollars.

11) Obama selected Tim Geithner, a man who was a tax cheat, to be his Treasury Secretary. That's bad enough, but then Obama spent his whole first term lobbying for tax increases and accusing other people of being greedy for wanting to keep more of their own money. When even the Treasury Secretary refuses to willingly pay all of his taxes, maybe the problem is that you're spending too much, not taxing the American people too little.

12) Under the "Cash for Clunkers" program, Obama spent 3 billion so he could buy and destroy perfectly functional cars. This was mind-numbingly stupid, but it was supposed to at least cause a major spike in auto sales and improve gas efficiency. The program is now almost universally recognized as a failure on every count.

13) Barack Obama put an end to NASA's manned space flight. In other words, because of Obama we no longer even have the same capabilities that we had in 1969. Meanwhile, NASA Administrator Charles Bolden says the "foremost" mission of NASA is now Muslim outreach. Yes, really.

14) Despite the fact that Obama had a disastrous first term, he hasn't even put forth a second term agenda. After one of the worst four year runs of any President in American history, Obama's message to the voters is, "Trust my judgment when it comes to deciding what we'll do differently."

15) "If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, ‘Well, it must be ’cause I was just so smart.’ There are a lot of smart people out there. ‘It must be because I worked harder than everybody else.’ Let me tell you something: If you’ve got a business, that–you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” -- Barack Obama

16) After BP had a massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, Obama exacerbated the crisis and dramatically slowed down the clean-up with his incompetent handling of the whole affair. Obama performed so poorly that even James Carville and Chris Matthews were publicly criticizing him.

17) "No, no. I have been practicing…I bowled a 129. It’s like — it was like Special Olympics, or something." — Barack Obama. Classy!

18) We were told that George W. Bush was a cowboy who was making the world hate us. Yet, as Chuck Norris notes,

The Washington Times reports that, according to a poll by even two left-leaning groups, “A majority of Americans say the United States is less respected in the world than two years ago and believe President Obama and other Democrats fall short of Republicans on the issue of national security.”
In February 2012, Gallup reported that “Americans continue to express much greater dissatisfaction than satisfaction with the United States’ position in the world, and their views have improved little since hitting a low point in 2008.”

19) "But I don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. I don’t mind cleaning up after them, but don’t do a lot of talking." — Barack Obama. In 2008, Barack Obama ran as a moderate, bipartisan reformer who was going to change the tone in Washington. He has governed as a hyper-partisan, arrogant, divisive, polar opposite of the man he pretended to be in 2008.

20) Although liberals and conservatives disagree on who's to blame for Obama's poor performance as President, there seems to be general agreement that he hasn't done very well. Of course, you can't tell Obama that.


Oprah: What grade would you give yourself, for this year?

Obama: Um, good solid B+


…Oprah: So B+, what could you have done better?


Obama: Well B+ because of the things that are undone. Health care is not yet signed. If I get health care passed we tip into A minus.

21) Despite claiming to be in favor of traditional marriage to get elected, Barack Obama betrayed Christians by coming out in favor of gay marriage.

22) The First Amendment rights of the Catholic Church are being violated under Obamacare. Despite its long recognized religious opposition to contraceptives and abortifacients, Obama is demanding that Catholic hospitals go against their faith to remain open. Every last Catholic bishop in the United States opposes Obama's anti-Christian policy and it will likely lead to numerous Catholic hospitals shutting down if Obama is re-elected.

23) Barack Obama despicably played the race card by telling Hispanic Americans that Republicans were their "enemies."

And if Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, we’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us, if they don’t see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it’s gonna be harder – and that’s why I think it’s so important that people focus on voting on November 2.
The President of the United States shouldn't be trying to pit different groups of Americans against each other based on the color of their skin.

24) "The Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. . . . What I think we know — separate and apart from this incident — is that there is a long history in their country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately, and that’s just a fact." — Barack Obama on the arrest of his friend, Henry Louis Gates.

25) The "Justice Department" helped put guns in the hands of drug cartels via Operation Fast and Furious that were used to kill hundreds of Mexican citizens and at least one American, Brian Terry. After stonewalling a congressional investigation, Barack Obama asserted executive privilege to try to keep the truth from coming out about the biggest scandal since Watergate.

26) We essentially have an open borders policy in America now for illegal aliens who haven't committed felonies in the United States.

27) Barack Obama is illegally trying to implement the DREAM Act by fiat, despite the fact that it failed to get through Congress.

28) The fence on our southern border was supposed to be completed in 2009. Not only has it not been completed, but the virtual fence has been put off until at least 2016.

29) Because Barack Obama is so out of touch, he thinks that "the private sector is doing fine.".

30) Obama has blocked the keystone pipeline and ANWR while he has held up offshore drilling in the Gulf and demonized oil companies. It's hard to say how much more you're paying at the pump because of Barack Obama, but we can be sure the amount is considerable.

31) In 2011, nearly 1 in 7 Americans were on food stamps. Is setting a record for putting the most Americans on food stamps really the sort of achievement that should merit a second term?

32) Despite the billions of dollars that were spent on TARP, U.S. home ownership is at a decade long low. So is the number of Americans who say their home is worth more than they paid for it. Home prices are the lowest they’ve been since 2002.

33) The staggering cost of the new regulations that the Obama Administration has implemented on American businesses over the last 3 1/2 years? 84 billion dollars.

34) Obama sent BILLIONS of dollars of YOUR TAX DOLLARS overseas as part of the stimulus package. The stimulus may have been a complete failure here in America, but I'm sure the companies in China, Spain, and South Korea sure loved pocketing our money.

35) In a more competent administration, what happened with Johnson Controls, Inc would have been a big scandal. That company was given 300 million dollars of stimulus money and used it to create.....150 jobs. That's 2 million dollars per job created. Unfortunately, the Obama Administration has performed so poorly, in so many ways, that this minor disaster has barely even been a blip on the radar.

36) George W. Bush started the TARP program, but Barack Obama supported the program, continued it, and made it worse. The cost of bailing out all those "too big to fail" fatcats who wanted capitalism on the way up and socialism on the way down? At least 34 billion dollars of taxpayer money although that dramatically understates the real cost because many banks paid back the TARP money with other funds that they received from the government.

37) We've had the longest streak of above 8% unemployment under Barack Obama since the Great Depression. Meanwhile, according to the Obama Administration, his stimulus bill was supposed to have produced 5.6% unemployment by now.

38) The terrible jobless numbers don't really give you a sense of how badly Obama has done as President because those who quit looking for jobs are no longer counted in the numbers. We've had the most rapid decline in labor force participation in recent history under Obama -- from 65.7% in 2009 to 63.7% in 2012.

39) Under Barack Obama's leadership, we've had the weakest economic recovery of any country, anywhere in the world since 1970

40) "Look, I’m at the start of my administration. One nice thing about the situation I find myself in is that I will be held accountable. You know, I’ve got four years. And, you know, a year from now I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some progress. But there’s still going to be some pain out there. If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition." -- Barack Obama on the economy in February of 2009

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #732 on: August 25, 2012, 11:40:57 AM »
he's cracking up all right...

Yeah I'm cracking up ::) coming from the resident constitutional illiterate ::)
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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #733 on: August 28, 2012, 02:58:46 AM »
Listen, voters. It's none of your business that Romney believes that god is a 6 foot 2, flesh and blood man who lives on planet Kolob, believes Jesus was married three times, believes in wearing magic underwear and believes Mormons should baptize dead people. This is a man's religion, for the love of god! You just need to respect it and shut your mouths.
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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #734 on: August 28, 2012, 03:18:27 AM »
Listen, voters. It's none of your business that Romney believes that god is a 6 foot 2, flesh and blood man who lives on planet Kolob, believes Jesus was married three times, believes in wearing magic underwear and believes Mormons should baptize dead people. This is a man's religion, for the love of god! You just need to respect it and shut your mouths.

Lol.  And we should not care about obamas horrible record right? 

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #735 on: August 28, 2012, 04:41:05 AM »
Listen, voters. It's none of your business that Romney believes that god is a 6 foot 2, flesh and blood man who lives on planet Kolob, believes Jesus was married three times, believes in wearing magic underwear and believes Mormons should baptize dead people. This is a man's religion, for the love of god! You just need to respect it and shut your mouths.

You know im not a Romney fan but the fairy tale they call the bible is not much better.

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #736 on: August 28, 2012, 07:24:38 AM »
Yeah I'm cracking up ::) coming from the resident constitutional illiterate ::)

I have never ever seen you admit you were wrong about anything on this board..you just spout nonsense and when called out on it you don't even acknowledge the other guy might have a point..you just go forth with your rhetoric...

hope this helps...but I doubt it

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #737 on: August 28, 2012, 07:37:49 AM »
I have never ever seen you admit you were wrong about anything on this board..you just spout nonsense and when called out on it you don't even acknowledge the other guy might have a point..you just go forth with your rhetoric...

hope this helps...but I doubt it

Yeah its non sense, but you can't refute it just post  just wow...................

Now move along
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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #738 on: August 28, 2012, 10:29:02 PM »
Yeah its non sense, but you can't refute it just post  just wow...................

Now move along

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #739 on: August 29, 2012, 08:57:01 AM »
I'm a lifelong Democrat and I might vote for Romney
By Rob Taub
Published August 27, 2012
FoxNews.com

The Sunday breakfast conversation is always lively and usually about sports at the counter of the Highland’s Cafe at 85th Street and Third Avenue, in New York City.  However, this week’s talk was all about politics and also extremely animated.  The guy to my right had already struck up a conversation with another counter dweller and said: “I’ve always voted Democrat, but I’m worried about my business and Obama’s not showing me anything so I’m gonna give the other guy a chance.”

Like many disgruntled Democrats, he couldn’t utter the name Mitt Romney in public, but it was obvious who he was talking about.  The consensus at the counter was clear: forget about social issues and other Republican agendas – we are scared to death about the economy. 

The discussion focused on the fact that no one believed the federal government runs efficiently or effectively, so the idea of paying more in taxes to wasteful government agencies is like throwing gasoline on the fire instead of water.

I have conducted my own straw polls in various U.S. cities and I’ve yet to find anyone who believes our government is well run, except for President Obama.
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I have conducted my own straw polls in various U.S. cities and I’ve yet to find anyone who believes our government is well run, except for President Obama.

Waste and mismanagement are the words frequently used to describe our federal government, yet I can’t recall the president ever championing or even discussing fiscal reform.  Yes, Obama established a bipartisan commission in 2010 to address fiscal reform, but it’s not part of his campaign platform, despite deficit spending surpassing more than one trillion dollars per year.

I’ve been a registered voter for 38 years and I’ve always voted Democrat, straight down the line, but I’m unhappy with out of control spending and incompetent bureaucrats who seem to have no concern or regard about how they spend my hard-earned money.

There are many others like me on the fence – a socially liberal but fiscally concerned silent minority, who are close to or have already abandoned President Obama.

So far, rather than running on issues, President Obama has disappointed me by mounting a Karl Rove-style negative campaign. 

I never thought it would happen, but for the second time in a week, I’m out in public talking about giving the other guy a chance.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/24/im-lifelong-democrat-and-might-vote-for-romney/?intcmp=obnetwork

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #740 on: August 29, 2012, 08:58:53 AM »
Go watch 2016 - obama is INTENTIONALLY bankrupting us.    He does not give one rats ass about this country. 


I'm a lifelong Democrat and I might vote for Romney
By Rob Taub
Published August 27, 2012
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The Sunday breakfast conversation is always lively and usually about sports at the counter of the Highland’s Cafe at 85th Street and Third Avenue, in New York City.  However, this week’s talk was all about politics and also extremely animated.  The guy to my right had already struck up a conversation with another counter dweller and said: “I’ve always voted Democrat, but I’m worried about my business and Obama’s not showing me anything so I’m gonna give the other guy a chance.”

Like many disgruntled Democrats, he couldn’t utter the name Mitt Romney in public, but it was obvious who he was talking about.  The consensus at the counter was clear: forget about social issues and other Republican agendas – we are scared to death about the economy. 

The discussion focused on the fact that no one believed the federal government runs efficiently or effectively, so the idea of paying more in taxes to wasteful government agencies is like throwing gasoline on the fire instead of water.

I have conducted my own straw polls in various U.S. cities and I’ve yet to find anyone who believes our government is well run, except for President Obama.
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I have conducted my own straw polls in various U.S. cities and I’ve yet to find anyone who believes our government is well run, except for President Obama.

Waste and mismanagement are the words frequently used to describe our federal government, yet I can’t recall the president ever championing or even discussing fiscal reform.  Yes, Obama established a bipartisan commission in 2010 to address fiscal reform, but it’s not part of his campaign platform, despite deficit spending surpassing more than one trillion dollars per year.

I’ve been a registered voter for 38 years and I’ve always voted Democrat, straight down the line, but I’m unhappy with out of control spending and incompetent bureaucrats who seem to have no concern or regard about how they spend my hard-earned money.

There are many others like me on the fence – a socially liberal but fiscally concerned silent minority, who are close to or have already abandoned President Obama.

So far, rather than running on issues, President Obama has disappointed me by mounting a Karl Rove-style negative campaign. 

I never thought it would happen, but for the second time in a week, I’m out in public talking about giving the other guy a chance.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/24/im-lifelong-democrat-and-might-vote-for-romney/?intcmp=obnetwork

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #741 on: August 29, 2012, 09:19:49 AM »
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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #742 on: August 29, 2012, 09:26:12 AM »
Go watch 2016 - obama is INTENTIONALLY bankrupting us.    He does not give one rats ass about this country. 



I'm probably going to watch it.

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #743 on: August 29, 2012, 12:42:00 PM »
wow 

Devastating 

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #744 on: August 29, 2012, 12:48:57 PM »
wow 

Devastating 

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you do realise that a campaign commercial :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #745 on: August 29, 2012, 12:51:42 PM »
wow 

Devastating 

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Great ad, but I hope they can find more than a few people.  They need more folks to appear in the ads.

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #746 on: August 29, 2012, 12:54:11 PM »
you do realise that a campaign commercial :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

and show me McLame voters who will vote for Thulsa Doom this time around? 


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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #747 on: August 30, 2012, 03:35:11 PM »
Romney takes lead over Obama with convention "bounce": Reuters/Ipsos poll

By Steve Holland

TAMPA, Florida | Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:37pm EDT

 
(Reuters) - Mitt Romney has moved into a narrow lead over U.S. President Barack Obama in a small bounce for him from the Republican National Convention, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found on Thursday.
 
Romney entered the week four points behind Obama in the first installment of a Reuters/Ipsos rolling poll, with Obama leading 46 percent to 42 percent.

But the most recent daily rolling poll gave Romney a two-point lead of 44 percent to 42 percent among likely voters.

The former governor of Massachusetts has been in the spotlight at the convention in Tampa, Florida, and was to make his acceptance speech on Thursday night in the biggest test of his White House bid.

Ipsos pollster Julia Clark said the poll results were proof that Romney is getting a positive outcome from the three-day Republican gathering.

"I'd say the convention is going very well for him," she said.

So-called convention "bounces" are typically short-lived. With Obama to accept his party's nomination for a second term next week at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, the incumbent could quickly rebound.

But the poll was further evidence of an extremely close race between Romney and Obama as they seek to energize party activists and appeal to undecided voters in battleground states who could determine the outcome of the election on November 6.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll also found signs that Romney's likability rating is slowly improving among voters, two days after his wife, Ann, talked up her husband's personal attributes and declared, "This man will not fail."

While he still trails Obama by almost 20 points on likability, Romney is now at 30 percent for "likable," up from 26 percent on Monday.

And 32 percent reported Romney is a "good person," up from 29 percent on Monday. Obama still leads by 10 points in this category.

Clark said the improvement in polling on his personality traits is important because of how far he lags behind Obama in these areas.

"Any ground that he can gain on this is very critical," she said.

Romney, 65, is basing his campaign for defeating Obama on promises to improve the U.S. economy and reduce its 8.3 percent unemployment rate.

This continues to be Romney's strongest argument, as 76 percent of those polled said the U.S. economy is on the wrong track.

Voters remain split on Romney's vice presidential running mate, Paul Ryan, who delivered a stinging rebuke of Obama during a prime-time convention speech on Wednesday night.

The survey found 47 percent of registered voters had a favorable view of Ryan, compared to 53 percent unfavorable.

For the survey, a sample of 1,481 American registered voters was interviewed online. The precision of the Reuters/Ipsos online polls is measured using a credibility interval. In this case, the poll has a credibility interval of plus or minus 2.9 percentage points for all respondents.

(Editing by Alistair Bell and Jim Loney)

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #748 on: August 30, 2012, 07:48:35 PM »
Romney leads Obama 16% among whites enough to win the election
The Examiner ^ | August 30, 2012 | Sahit Muja
Posted on August 30, 2012 10:26:55 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet

All latest election 2012 polls show Mitt Romney lead Obama average 16%. Gallup Romney 55% Obama 38%, CNN Romney 56 vs Obana 40% and NBC and WSJ Romney 55% vs Obama 40%.

The overwhelming majority of voters in The US are white which accounting for 72 percent of all people living in the United States.

Romney and GOP is offering solutions, Romney gain huge support among white voters after Joe Biden (D) playing the race card last week, stating "They'll put y'all in chains".

The speakers at GOP convention last night were terrific. The GOP is taking the high road by talking about the big issues and offering solutions rather than distractions.

The tone and the quality of the GOP convention will be a a stark contrast to the negativity, anger and extremism that will be in display in Charlotte NC next week.

I'm more interested in substance than style. Look where all of his flowery speeches have gotten us? We're worse off than we were four years ago, and are on the verge of a triple dip recession. Keep the pretty speeches and give me action to fixing the problems!.

Obama is all about rhetoric, but has yet to implement anything of substance to improve the economy.

Ryan's speech set forth the clearest distinctions between those who believe in free people and free markets and those who believe in central planning and redistribution.

Unfortunately, after 4 years of the "drip-drip" of leftist propaganda in schools, in the legacy media, and in Washington, all too many of our citizens are being manipulated, and have delegated their powers of reasoning to people they falsely call their "leaders," but who are in fact our "employees."

It's time to call out the left for advancing false narratives...

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #749 on: September 04, 2012, 05:48:22 AM »
Hill Poll: Voters say second term undeserved, country is worse off
 The Hill ^ | 09/04/12 | Sheldon Alberts


Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:05:44 AM


A majority of voters believe the country is worse off today than it was four years ago and that President Obama does not deserve reelection, according to a new poll for The Hill.

Fifty-two percent of likely voters say the nation is in “worse condition” now than in September 2008, while 54 percent say Obama does not deserve reelection based solely on his job performance.

Only 31 percent of voters believe the nation is in “better condition,” while 15 percent say it is “about the same,” the poll found. Just 40 percent of voters said Obama deserves reelection.

The results highlight the depth of voter dissatisfaction confronting Obama as he makes his case for a second term at this week’s Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C.


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