Author Topic: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama  (Read 2675 times)

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2012, 07:14:57 AM »
http://www.businessinsider.com/march-existing-home-sales-2012-4


Stuff it 240 - your nonsense is no longer funny - its boring and dishonest. 

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2012, 07:50:56 AM »
LOL.
In some cases maybe, but not in the cases when the people literally have no money to spend. Obama hasnt reversed shit - perception in this case is the general public - not the business' that run the economy. The average person hears on the news everyday how things are getting better - they think they are. But the business' arent hiring still - because they know its no better out there.


Businesses "run" the economy by investing the $ they're holding.  We all know they're holding those stim bill billions.

if the Top voice for republicans in the country - romney - claiming to be the economic guru - claims the economy is recovery - isn't that a green light for businesses to start investing?

I mean, "people" think it's better, Romney thinks its better... a LOT of repubs have said it's getting better.  People who own businesses start to believe that shit.

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2012, 07:57:18 AM »
Businesses "run" the economy by investing the $ they're holding.  We all know they're holding those stim bill billions.

if the Top voice for republicans in the country - romney - claiming to be the economic guru - claims the economy is recovery - isn't that a green light for businesses to start investing?

I mean, "people" think it's better, Romney thinks its better... a LOT of repubs have said it's getting better.  People who own businesses start to believe that shit.


You really are a dishonest troll.   WTF happened to you bro?  Seriously - go walk to a mirror look in it and ask yourself why you allowed yourself to be so corrupted and brainwashed.   I feel ashamed for you. 



Not one true statement in what you said.   

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2012, 08:00:08 AM »

You really are a dishonest troll.   WTF happened to you bro?  Seriously - go walk to a mirror look in it and ask yourself why you allowed yourself to be so corrupted and brainwashed.   I feel ashamed for you. 
Not one true statement in what you said.   

so please go point by point and destroy my argument.  Calling me a troll when I'm really not trolling isn't nice.  I'm making the point that one of the prez' main jobs is to deliver CONFIDENCE in the strength of the economy.  He's a cheerleader for a recovery.  So much of the economic performance of US and world is just confidence/perception of how things are going.

So when even the GOP opponent of Obama admits the economy is improving, well, it doesn't hurt obama lol.

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2012, 08:02:30 AM »
Businesses "run" the economy by investing the $ they're holding.  We all know they're holding those stim bill billions.

if the Top voice for republicans in the country - romney - claiming to be the economic guru - claims the economy is recovery - isn't that a green light for businesses to start investing?

I mean, "people" think it's better, Romney thinks its better... a LOT of repubs have said it's getting better.  People who own businesses start to believe that shit.
Businessmen dont make choices based on public opinion.
General public does.
Thats where your logic is faulty.
Businessmen make calculated decisions based on numbers - not on the general publics "feelings" or what some bullshit Politician says.

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2012, 08:05:38 AM »
Please give me data showing most people think things are getting better, give me ANY data that things actually ARE getting better, give me any data that obama has inspired confidence on the economy, give me any data that businesses are sitting on STIM bill money, give me any data on any of your claims.


Myth should not have said that since it is objectively false and I can prove it.  

Things are getting worse.  

Jobless claims - worse
Housing - worse
MFG data -worse
Inflation - worse
GDP growth - pathetic and out paced by inflation
Income growth - horrible
Labor force participation - worse
Number of jobless overall - worse
Food stamp and welfare - worse.  






BTW - i dont give a damn about being nice, your have earned being called a troll since all you are doing is parroting msnbc bullshit and you should know better.  .  








 

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2012, 08:29:31 AM »
Looks like youre wrong about Romney agreeing with Obama 240. Any more lies broseph?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/19/Scorching-talk--Romney--Obama-battle-over-economy

Romney Savages Obama over Economy

Their battle joined, challenger Mitt Romney savaged President Barack Obama's handling of the economy on Wednesday while the commander in chief commiserated up close with victims of the recession and warned that Republicans would only make matters worse.

"Obama is over his head and swimming in the wrong direction" when it comes to the economy, Romney said in a scorching speech delivered across the street from the football stadium where the president will deliver his Democratic National Convention acceptance speech this summer.

"Even if you like Barack Obama, we can't afford Barack Obama," the former Massachusetts governor declared, an evident reference to the president's ability to transcend at least some of the public's dissatisfaction with the pace of the recovery. Romney quoted liberally _ and mockingly _ from Obama's 2008 campaign pledges to repair the economy.

At the same time, Obama sketched his case for re-election in swing-state Ohio, where he met with unemployed workers who have enrolled in job training programs. Then he spoke at the Lorain County Community College.

"Right now, companies can't find enough qualified workers for the jobs they need to fill" locally, he said. "So programs like this one are training hundreds of thousands of workers with the skills that companies are looking for. And it's working." By contrast, he said, between the years 2000 and 2008, Republican policies produced "the slowest job growth in half a century ... and we've spent the last three and a half years cleaning up after that mess."

Campaign symbolism counted for much on a day that seems destined to be replicated often in the six months until Election Day.

The Republican challenger delivered his scathing denunciation of the president's policies with the Bank of America Stadium over his shoulder. Aides dubbed his remarks a pre-buttal to the president's own, and early-arriving partisans heard a recorded medley of rock music that included "It's Still the Same."

Each man taunted the other at times.

"I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth," Obama said in an evident reference to Romney, whose father was president of American Motors, an automaker.

Romney jabbed that unlike four years ago, when Obama walked through stage-set columns at his convention, things would be different this summer.

"You're not going to see President Obama standing alongside Greek columns. He's not going to want to remind anyone of Greece," Romney said, "because he's put us on a road to become more like Greece," where crushing debt has led to an austerity plan and public protests.

It was only within the past two weeks that Romney shed his competition for the Republican presidential nomination, and he is still in the process of trying to unite his party after a three-month primary struggle in which he had trouble appealing to hardcore conservatives.

But already, elements of the fall campaign are falling into place.

Obama's campaign was airing Spanish language radio ads in Orlando, Fla., Las Vegas and Denver _ all in states that the president won four years ago and that figure to be fiercely contested in the fall.

From Ohio, Obama hopscotched to Michigan for two fundraisers, the first a reception at Dearborn's Henry Ford Museum, where Romney in 2007 launched his unsuccessful bid for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination.

Speaking in a museum named for the founder of Ford Motor Co., Obama got some of his biggest cheers when he highlighted his administration's efforts to rescue the American auto industry. Later, at a private dinner fundraiser in Bingham Farms, he said that the industry's recovery didn't just help Michigan, it "helped to give America a vision of what we could be."

For his part, Romney arranged an appearance for Thursday at a factory in Lorain, Ohio, shadowing Obama's Wednesday trip to the area. Obama toured the factory as part of his 2008 campaign _ and it was closed later.

Polls consistently show the economy is the top issue for the nation's voters, who will decide whether to accept Romney's indictment or Obama's reassurances. Given recent trends, each man has a case to make.

In Ohio, joblessness was 9.1 percent in February 2009, shortly after Obama took office. It stood at 7.6 last month.

In North Carolina, joblessness was 9.5 percent then, and stands at 9.9 now.

In Michigan, where Obama was appearing late Wednesday, it was 12.5 percent in 2009 and is 8.8 percent now.

In all three states, unemployment rose in the months immediately after Obama took office as the recession deepened and financial markets trembled.

"Right now we have two competing visions of our future. And the choice could not be clearer," said Obama. He said he was sure Republicans were "patriots. I'm sure they're sincere in -- in terms of what they say. But their theory, I believe, is wrong."

Without mentioning Romney by name, he said, "Instead of moderating their views even slightly, you now have Republicans in Washington, the ones running for president, proposing budgets that shower the wealthiest Americans with even more tax cuts, folks like me who don't need them, weren't looking for them."

But Romney was relentless as he ripped into the president.

"Virtually nothing he has done has made it more likely for people to get jobs," he said.

Reading from Obama's campaign pledges from the 2008 Democratic convention in Denver, he said the president has "failed by the measurements he set. You won't hear that at this convention, but you're going to hear it at ours."

He added: "We're a trusting people. We're a hopeful people. But we are not dumb, and we are not going to fall for the same lines from the same person just because it's a different place."

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2012, 08:32:09 AM »
http://www.businessinsider.com/march-existing-home-sales-2012-4


 your nonsense is no longer funny - its boring and dishonest. 

fucking wow

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2012, 08:35:39 AM »
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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2012, 09:36:08 AM »
The only thing you're showing me is that TODAY Mitt is shitting on the economy.  last month he was saying something different.  practically opposite actually.

So Mitt's a flip flopper who believed things were getting better last month, when he said that... and now it's different? 

I guess if you wait 10 minutes, you'll hear mitt's position on every issue change eventually.

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2012, 09:44:01 AM »
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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2012, 09:45:13 AM »
The only thing you're showing me is that TODAY Mitt is shitting on the economy.  last month he was saying something different.  practically opposite actually.

So Mitt's a flip flopper who believed things were getting better last month, when he said that... and now it's different? 

I guess if you wait 10 minutes, you'll hear mitt's position on every issue change eventually.

Like the messianc afro-communist on pot, mandates, patriot act, lobbysits, signing statements, gitmo, etc?    Agreed.  Both stink and are flip floppers. 

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2012, 09:58:24 AM »
The point, 240, is that you posted THIS -

Romney sure hasn't changed his position - depsite the terrible March jobs report.

I just don't get it.  He claims to be an expert on the economy - but he said "it's finally coming back".
You posted this TODAY.
You posted this when he has been denouncing the economy. Thats you either being ignorant or simply lying.

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2012, 11:10:52 AM »
The point, 240, is that you posted THIS -
You posted this TODAY.
You posted this when he has been denouncing the economy. Thats you either being ignorant or simply lying.

He's a pathetic liar but it doesn't take away from that fact that he's also ignorant about most of the topics discussed on here.

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2012, 11:12:48 AM »
He's a pathetic liar but it doesn't take away from that fact that he's also ignorant about most of the topics discussed on here.

Its really stunning how someone can keep getting less informed as time goes on like 240 apparently is.

Has he always been like this?   

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2012, 11:19:59 AM »
http://www.businessinsider.com/march-existing-home-sales-2012-4


Stuff it 240 - your nonsense is no longer funny - its boring and dishonest. 
fucking amazing here

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2012, 11:21:40 AM »
fucking amazing here

True - Obama spent more in three years than bush did in 8 and has nothing to show for it but a worsening economy of debt, despair, decline, and depression 

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2012, 12:46:58 PM »
This is retarded.  Romney wasn't saying Obama has done anything to improve the economy. 

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2012, 03:35:20 PM »
This is retarded.  Romney wasn't saying Obama has done anything to improve the economy. 

Obama "owns" the economy when he's president.

If the dollar collapses tomorrow, it's damn sure his fault.
If the year is 2012, he is president, and it's improving (as Mittens claims), then yes, he gets credit.

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #45 on: April 19, 2012, 03:39:21 PM »
Obama "owns" the economy when he's president.

If the dollar collapses tomorrow, it's damn sure his fault.
If the year is 2012, he is president, and it's improving (as Mittens claims), then yes, he gets credit.

LOL - 7 months to go - please tell me of what miracle you think is going to happen and make a difference that has not happened in the last 3 1/2 years? 

Remember our little bet early on about the Stim Bill?   Remember how that worked out for you and I? 

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #46 on: April 19, 2012, 03:48:07 PM »
Obama "owns" the economy when he's president.

If the dollar collapses tomorrow, it's damn sure his fault.
If the year is 2012, he is president, and it's improving (as Mittens claims), then yes, he gets credit.
Really? Did you even read the article I posted? Hes sounds claiming its improving anymore. I notice you selectively ignore contradictory facts when you get called out and just move on pretending they dont exist.

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2012, 06:28:08 PM »
1) I think the economy is doing terrible and isn't recovering.

Romney said otherwise.

Now, maybe TODAY he is saying something different.  Posting an april article where he shits on the economy is DEFINITELY not a defense for his pro-obama bullshit line of "the economy is getting better" he delivered a few weeks back.


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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #48 on: April 19, 2012, 06:35:38 PM »
1) I think the economy is doing terrible and isn't recovering.

Romney said otherwise.

Now, maybe TODAY he is saying something different.  Posting an april article where he shits on the economy is DEFINITELY not a defense for his pro-obama bullshit line of "the economy is getting better" he delivered a few weeks back.


The point, 240, is that you said this -
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Romney sure hasn't changed his position
today! you posted that gem today! You either were ignorant or just lied. BTW that article wasnt "today". And no one is trying to defend him. Its pointing out that YOU LIED AGAIN.

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Re: Mitt Romney admits the economy is coming back under Obama
« Reply #49 on: April 19, 2012, 06:52:08 PM »
the article was posted today.

i lost all respect for romney when he said the economy was recovering.  But then he flipflopped.  Maybe he just wanted to appeal to angry voters, or maybe he was swayed.  Or maybe he was just confused.  I dont know, to be honest.

I know he said the economy was recovering.  I know he said it wasn't.  Which is it, mitt?  depends on the audience?