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Creatine - What is GetBig's opinion on it?
« on: April 10, 2012, 09:08:34 AM »
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Re: Creatine - What is GetBig's opinion on it?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 09:46:13 AM »
A waste of money.

There are worthwhile supplements out there, this just isn't one of them. A good mulch-vitamin or something like Juice Plus, a vitamin D supplement, maybe some calcium fish oil and things like that is about all that's really worth your time. Probably cost you less per yr than two months worth of creatine.

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 09:48:28 AM »
Useless.
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Re: Creatine - What is GetBig's opinion on it?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 10:07:45 AM »
Not applicable in a single recipe.

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 10:20:25 AM »
I give you permission to post one more topic on Getbig, redemption is your final path.

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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 10:35:36 AM »
let me put it this way, i took it for years in my teens and never made it past 175lbs. you be the judge.

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 10:41:58 AM »
let me put it this way, i took it for years in my teens and never made it past 175lbs. you be the judge.


If you can't get past 175lb while megadosing creatine then your genetics must suck bro.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2012, 10:53:02 AM »
Every individual responds differently to creatine supplementation.

But even for someone who responds well to it (and with creatine, responding "well" might be to simply not shit your drawers every hour), the greatest advantage is in workout-to-workout performance. As in, if you're a strength athlete, it might work best for you. The size gain is water volume which does aid top-end lifting performance. This ability to train with greater poundage (minor as the benefit likely will be) could conceivably help, over time, to build a larger musculature.

It comes down to: what are your goals and how do you "take" to the supplement? Then it's a matter of weighing the cost-to-benefit deal.

I'd say, for most, the money spent on creatine is largely wasteful. But for the hardcore strength athlete, who prizes performance above all, it can be beneficial.

    

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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2012, 10:56:33 AM »
very useful for responders during carb-loads, i use it all the time with ud2 diet

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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2012, 11:29:09 AM »
Every individual responds differently to creatine supplementation.

But even for someone who responds well to it (and with creatine, responding "well" might be to simply not shit your drawers every hour), the greatest advantage is in workout-to-workout performance. As in, if you're a strength athlete, it might work best for you. The size gain is water volume which does aid top-end lifting performance. This ability to train with greater poundage (minor as the benefit likely will be) could conceivably help, over time, to build a larger musculature.

It comes down to: what are your goals and how do you "take" to the supplement? Then it's a matter of weighing the cost-to-benefit deal.

I'd say, for most, the money spent on creatine is largely wasteful. But for the hardcore strength athlete, who prizes performance above all, it can be beneficial.

    

I'm in agreement with this, it's helpful for getting a small performance bump or maintaining performance during stressful times like dieting..... And by small, I mean a rep or two, or maybe 5-10lbs on the major lifts.

Also make sure to say well hydrated on it, as I got older I found I was more injury prone on it, if I didn't keep an eye on that.


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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2012, 11:31:44 AM »

If you can't get past 175lb while megadosing creatine then you must not be fat.

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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2012, 11:35:21 AM »
The size gain is water volume

water gains? yes, just what i wanted!

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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2012, 11:43:23 AM »
A waste of money.

There are worthwhile supplements out there, this just isn't one of them. A good mulch-vitamin or something like Juice Plus, a vitamin D supplement, maybe some calcium fish oil and things like that is about all that's really worth your time. Probably cost you less per yr than two months worth of creatine.

Must add magnesium to list. A lot of doctors even saying now hoe the 2 to 1 ratio of cal n mag is horrible. To much calcium builds up in Ur arteries magnesium gets rid of this build up. Along with mag is used for  over 300 diff enyzmatic propertys in the body.

If anything besides a multi. extra

Vit d. shown to reverse cancerous cells n prevent all types of cancer. 8000 or more iu day. 500 or more mag. Niacin on its own empty stomach for gh increase n blood pressure n good n bad cholesterol.

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 N I'd say that's about it for stuff that's to low in any multi.

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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2012, 11:44:18 AM »
It made me shit like a fucker

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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2012, 11:47:58 AM »
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Re: Creatine - What is GetBig's opinion on it?
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2012, 11:54:14 AM »
Garbage

Or in other words "balonie"  ;D

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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2012, 12:08:21 PM »
Creatine works and works well.

In 2 years of consistent usage when i first started lifting around 17, i went from 165 to 224lb in just under 2 years with visible ab lines (top 2 always) and solid size. Alongside creatine, i always used whey, multi-vitamins, ginseng (vials), weight gainers, ephedrine, vanadyl sulfate, and sublingual GH releasers. Strength and size were in sync. Bench went from 185 for 10-12 reps to 225*9. Squat from 225*10 to 295*10 fairly easy. Deadlift 275lb*10 to 325*8-10. Then i was on my death bed no so long after. And took about 7-8 year lay off from any type of workouts. When i did start back up - started with the whey and creatine again. Got back to former self within about a year. Only 11+ years later did i for the first time use Test/var and now on 2nd cycle. In fact, i can say using creatine is the equivalent of using 500mg test weekly.

Furthermore, I learned on 2nd cycle not to mix Creatine with AAS. It throws all the blood work numbers off, and the muscle cramps and spasms are notorious. My response to any supra-physiological usage  of supplements and AAS is explosive, i find. Towards the last 8 weeks of 1st 18wk test e/c cycle added 20mg Anavar, literally things changed within a week. Went from a blow fish look to a solid fish with visible vascularity everywhere except abdominal region.

By the way those thinking of using creatine alongside AAS, don't IMHO. My doctor told me when he initially saw the blood work to start making arrangements. So i started digging a grave about 1 foot each day in the backyard. I got to about 5 feet before the internal medicine specialist said you're within the norm. On top of the blood work, i had everything thoroughly tested including heart, lungs, and liver. ;D

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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2012, 12:09:55 PM »
I have heard time and time again about how guys feel nothing taking creatine. The first time I took German creatine I was amazed at the gains I made. My muscles felt dense and I got stronger quick. The muscles got a tight feel to them and I have heard guys claim they ripped muscles while taking creatine.

I used creatine for many years after that. The main creatine I used was German. When I hear guys say that they didn't get anything from Creatine the explanation I get is that some are responders and some are not. I don't know if I buy that.  Could the brand I bought have a little something extra in it? I have since used creatine and suddenly I don't get the same response I use to get all those years. What's different?  I really don't know.

On a side note my kidney tests started to come back bad when I had blood work.  The doctor told me to stop using creatine and the test improved. Some have said creatine can alter kidney tests but it's a false positive. If this is true, I don't know. I haven't used it in 7 months and I'm willing to use a low dose of maybe 2 to 4 g's.

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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2012, 12:13:25 PM »
Creatine works and works well.

In 2 years of consistent usage when i first started lifting around 17, i went from 165 to 224lb in just under 2 years with visible ab lines (top 2 always) and solid size. Alongside creatine, i always used whey, weight gainers, ephedrine, vanadyl sulfate, and sublingual GH releasers. Strength and size were in sync. Bench went from 185 for 10-12 reps to 225*9. Squat from 225*10 to 295*10 fairly easy. Deadlift 275lb*10 to 325*8-10. Then i was on my death bed no so long after just before 21. And took about 7-8 year lay off from any type of workouts. When i did start back up - started with the whey and creatine again. Got back to former self within about a year. Only 11+ years later did i for the first time use Test/var and now on 2nd cycle. In fact, i can say using creatine is the equivalent of using 500mg test weekly.

Furthermore, I learned on 2nd cycle not to mix Creatine with AAS. It throws all the blood work numbers off, and the muscle cramps and spasms are notorious. My response to any supra-physiological usage  of supplements and AAS is explosive, i find. Towards the last 8 weeks of 1st 18wk test e/c cycle added 20mg Anavar, literally things changed within a week. Went from a blow fish look to a solid fish with visible vascularity everywhere except abdominal region.

By the way those thinking of using creatine alongside AAS, don't IMHO. My doctor told me when he initially saw the blood work to start making arrangements. So i started digging a grave about a 1 foot each day in the backyard. I got to about 5 feet before the internal medicine specialist said you're within the norm. On top of the blood work, i had everything thoroughly tested including heart, lungs, and liver. ;D





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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2012, 12:23:44 PM »
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and if you don't believe me, read gh15's numbers about naturals.


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Re: Creatine - What is GetBig's opinion on it?
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2012, 12:24:36 PM »
let me put it this way, i took it for years in my teens and never made it past 175lbs. you be the judge.

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and if you don't believe me, read gh15's numbers about naturals.

GH15 numbers apply to meat heads not creatine users, nor any other naturals. His context of #'s is only applicable with competitive athletes (stage ready) and what is possible in terms of weight and bodyfat.  

What kind of cookie cutter bullshit is it that you are defending you lack of response to a natural limit offered by your guru GH15?

You just have shits for genetics. Don't blame yourself, blame your parents.

Couldn't get past 175lb? Really?

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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2012, 12:26:17 PM »
Creatine is GARBAGE!
Reason why you should never take creatine :
1) Creatine is ineffective as muscle builder
2) Creatine is ineffective as strenght enhancer
3) Creatine will blur your muscle definition making you hold unwanted water
4) Creatine will give you diarrhea
5) Creatine will fuck up your kidney in the long run
Creatine is the MOST DANGEROUS SUPPLEMENT OUT THERE with pro-hormone and should be banned for sale


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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2012, 12:27:44 PM »
GH15 numbers are fucking spot on for everyone.

fixed to reflect the truth

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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2012, 12:28:53 PM »
It will give you gyno and you'll lose your hair. BE VERY CAREFUL OP!