Creatine - What is GetBig's opinion on it?

[MrLean]

What the fuck this thread made me buy creatine

Just ordered german creapure

[Natural Man]

it s all water retention. Long term use ruins your kidneys.

[KGV]

The good thing about water retention is that for me personally it gave like 1 inch to my arms
The bad thing is the retention in face, definately not that lean look

[True]

My experience with creatine over the years has for the most part been negative when it really didnt do much for me. It only worked the best the first time I used it, and I noticed a huge difference in strength gain. Cant remember how much mass it added though, but hey - with strength comes mass, so I guess it helped there as well. But later on it didnt do much for me at all, no matter how many different and popular creatine products I tried. And so in the end I just stopped wasting money on them and quit using them since it didnt really matter if I was on them or not.

Today is a different story though, Ive begun to use creatine again, more specifically Creatine Monohydrate since this is has been proven scientifically to be the best product. And I have to agree, because I actually do see/feel a difference in strength/mass gain when using it. And the best part is that its cheap too!  As far as the water retention goes, I cant say to see that much of a difference on them or not, and I certaintly dont have any problem staying lean while on creatine. Its all in the diet folks, and with added cardio as well - it should do the trick regardless if your on creatine or not.

So my conclusion is, creatine is one of those rare products that actually works, and I think its a nice investment if your a bodybuilder.



True approved.

[abijahmaniaco]

with strength comes mass

yeah, well not really. for example i have no biceps and i have no problem curling 30 lb dumbells. kai greene also curls 30 lb dumbells, but our biceps—there's no comparison.

[deadpan]

yeah, well not really. for example i have no biceps and i have no problem curling 30 lb dumbells. kai greene also curls 30 lb dumbells, but our biceps—there's no comparison.

well i think in kai's case the drug abuse is the defining factor.

but strength does generally promote more myofibrillar hypertrophy, i personally believe that it's no coincidence that successful bb'ers like ronnie and dorian were focused much more on strength and almost powerlifting-style routines than doing set after set of moderate weights like kai or cutler. even arnold had fairly impressive squat and dl numbers.

imo "strength" muscle just feels more solid and more permanent. that's just my opinion tho

[gh15]

yeah, well not really. for example i have no biceps and i have no problem curling 30 lb dumbells. kai greene also curls 30 lb dumbells, but our biceps—there's no comparison.

dont listen to rubish ,, creatine is rubish ,, it is just like any other suplement out there made to get to the parents walet and steal the money in a shady way ... a greay area..by the way just so its clear...fella like rich gaspari is not only a suplement distibuter...he is also DRUG DEALER,, it need to be known ,, it is hwo it is in bodybuild,, thats why no one ever sue anyone for eveyone is a felon in some way or another,,

sue me,, im waiting...

gh15 approved

[oldtimer1]

dont listen to rubish ,, creatine is rubish ,, it is just like any other suplement out there made to get to the parents walet and steal the money in a shady way ... a greay area..by the way just so its clear...fella like rich gaspari is not only a suplement distibuter...he is also DRUG DEALER,, it need to be known ,, it is hwo it is in bodybuild,, thats why no one ever sue anyone for eveyone is a felon in some way or another,,

sue me,, im waiting...

gh15 approved

Is this even English?  Just busting balls.  I guess English is a second language for you.

[Nirvana]

dont listen to rubish ,, creatine is rubish ,, it is just like any other suplement out there made to get to the parents walet and steal the money in a shady way ... a greay area..by the way just so its clear...fella like rich gaspari is not only a suplement distibuter...he is also DRUG DEALER,, it need to be known ,, it is hwo it is in bodybuild,, thats why no one ever sue anyone for eveyone is a felon in some way or another,,

sue me,, im waiting...

gh15 approved

is ripped.com your site or just an alexa23 scam?  every thread about it gets moved or deleted

[randy841]

I have a hyper response to all drugs, good and bad lol. Comparing creatine to anabolics is amusing to say the least.

Creatine is useless, perhaps you are confused in regards to the english language and the way you word things.

Jaime i'll repeat this again since English is your second language. You know it's never to late too get a GED. If my writing style is too difficult for you to comprehend, i definitely recommend the latter.

As to your genetics blame your parents not yourself for the shitty response. You are a byproduct of a defective gene. Out of the millions of sperm cells, you were the chosen one - unfortunately for you brother.    Remember that you are not alone, there is a certain segment of the population in your state. There are individuals who fail to respond to 2 grams of tren a week. And you think you are somehow segregated and special?

And you think i profit off these so called "claims".  

Since "agenda" is the protagonist of the day. Let's get on with it.

Those like you who question(ed) my sincerity about creatine monohydrate working very well for over 10 years, before i ever touched hormones -- and thinking I have an agenda?   Yes, i do.   So that you can all go buy it from GNC for $30 for 1kg, and i can greatly profit from it.  

No Dante and Sons, EAS, Gaspari or anyone for that matter put a gun too my head to buy and use it. I bought it and used it by virtue of my own freewill, as you all do buying GH and hormones from the various dealers here and elsewhere. I will continue to do so in the future.

And my cerebral capacity limited friend - i wasn't comparing creatine with steroids. I simply gave you my honest experience, and what i thought. If you don't like it go fu*ck yourself.

I am not the one who you should all be worried about profiting, look at your drug dealers soliciting and selling you fake and underdosed HGH and hormones. Remember Jamie, Kami and party bent you over and fuc*ked you in the a$s not the creatine industry. If something doesn't work, i can go get my $30, $40, or whatever back from the seller. Can you do the same once you get fuc*ked over?  

[Brocty]

tren > creatine

[abijahmaniaco]

well i think in kai's case the drug abuse is the defining factor.

but strength does generally promote more myofibrillar hypertrophy, i personally believe that it's no coincidence that successful bb'ers like ronnie and dorian were focused much more on strength and almost powerlifting-style routines than doing set after set of moderate weights like kai or cutler. even arnold had fairly impressive squat and dl numbers.

imo "strength" muscle just feels more solid and more permanent. that's just my opinion tho

i don't think you're right on this one necessarily. jay said that the most influential thing anyone ever told him was lee haney's famous motto, "stimulate, don't annihilate". remember they were as successful as ronnie and dorian. no, jay didn't win as many o's as dorian, but dorian wasn't runner up for like five years either.

plus ronnie and dorian definitely had way more injuries than jay and haney.

also, it's not about the style of training i feel. just the drugs that give a certain look. i mean, after all, lets be real.

[ChristopherA]

tren > creatine

Yes this. Shit what's a tub of creatine cost, $50? That's a vial right there LOL! I will say I don't advocate gear until you have 4-5yrs of experience and in that case, creatine is a great supplement

[randy841]

My experience with creatine over the years has for the most part been negative when it really didnt do much for me. It only worked the best the first time I used it, and I noticed a huge difference in strength gain. Cant remember how much mass it added though, but hey - with strength comes mass, so I guess it helped there as well. But later on it didnt do much for me at all, no matter how many different and popular creatine products I tried. And so in the end I just stopped wasting money on them and quit using them since it didnt really matter if I was on them or not.

Today is a different story though, Ive begun to use creatine again, more specifically Creatine Monohydrate since this is has been proven scientifically to be the best product. And I have to agree, because I actually do see/feel a difference in strength/mass gain when using it. And the best part is that its cheap too!  As far as the water retention goes, I cant say to see that much of a difference on them or not, and I certaintly dont have any problem staying lean while on creatine. Its all in the diet folks, and with added cardio as well - it should do the trick regardless if your on creatine or not.

So my conclusion is, creatine is one of those rare products that actually works, and I think its a nice investment if your a bodybuilder.

True approved.

I can attest to that.

It definitely works wonders in the beginning. Then the gains taper off as the body gets saturated. The hyper response was gone after 3-4 cycles completed for 12-16 weeks each time.

Later on after about 2 years of consistent use, it was more of a maintenance approach with it.

Then again i took creatine after about a 7-8 year lay off, and got the same type of response when i first started. Strength and mass gains were quite astounding.

Now it's a mix of hormones and creatine. You can only go to a certain level with creatine usage. My weight and strength never budged after i got to 224lb from the 160s, and 222lb the second time around. Tried mixing them together, it threw all the blood work numbers off. Most importantly, it was very difficult to workout with creatine due to it causing a serious electrolyte imbalance resulting in debilitating spasms and cramps.

Overall, there is a definitely a place for creatine in every weightlifter/BBs arsenal.

[aesthetics]

that stuff just bloat you and adds 10 pounds of water. it's the exact opposite of what a bodybuilder would want

[Brocty]

Yes this. Shit what's a tub of creatine cost, $50? That's a vial right there LOL! I will say I don't advocate gear until you have 4-5yrs of experience and in that case, creatine is a great supplement

Man I remember the first time I bought creatine.  I was like 18, I wanted to get huge, but not to big u know..  So I got my ass in to GNC and got my creatine.  Needed to go to walmart too, to get my grape juice because that digested the shit outta my creatine.  Oh man, I was pumped.  

Taking supps doesn't do shit for you physique wise, but if anything for beginners, it helps get them into a decent regime. Your all jazzed up because you got your product and you think it will add size and while in this mind frame, you will be paying close attention to your diet and training, you will be doing all the little things better.  Total placebo effect, but it works.  

[ChristopherA]

Hell ya Brocty, you couldnt take your creatine without grape juice HAHA! So much wasted money on supplements, holy fuck. I used to drop like $400 a month on that shit, maybe more. Needed my l-glutamine PWO for recovery wtf! I am happy I stayed natty as long as I did but I was spending more $ then I could have on gear. Need my ZMA before bed, increases test levels. I could go on and on

[Jaime]

Jaime i'll repeat this again since English is your second language. You know it's never to late too get a GED. If my writing style is too difficult for you to comprehend, i definitely recommend the latter.

As to your genetics blame your parents not yourself for the shitty response. You are a byproduct of a defective gene. Out of the millions of sperm cells, you were the chosen one - unfortunately for you brother.    Remember that you are not alone, there is a certain segment of the population in your state. There are individuals who fail to respond to 2 grams of tren a week. And you think you are somehow segregated and special?

And you think i profit off these so called "claims".  

Since "agenda" is the protagonist of the day. Let's get on with it.

Those like you who question(ed) my sincerity about creatine monohydrate working very well for over 10 years, before i ever touched hormones -- and thinking I have an agenda?   Yes, i do.   So that you can all go buy it from GNC for $30 for 1kg, and i can greatly profit from it.  

No Dante and Sons, EAS, Gaspari or anyone for that matter put a gun too my head to buy and use it. I bought it and used it by virtue of my own freewill, as you all do buying GH and hormones from the various dealers here and elsewhere. I will continue to do so in the future.

And my cerebral capacity limited friend - i wasn't comparing creatine with steroids. I simply gave you my honest experience, and what i thought. If you don't like it go fu*ck yourself.

I am not the one who you should all be worried about profiting, look at your drug dealers soliciting and selling you fake and underdosed HGH and hormones. Remember Jamie, Kami and party bent you over and fuc*ked you in the a$s not the creatine industry. If something doesn't work, i can go get my $30, $40, or whatever back from the seller. Can you do the same once you get fuc*ked over?  

Meltdown.

Hormones>>>>>>>>>>creatine, simple and straightforward.

I don't take hgh, just low dose gear. I'm sorry that me being factual about the merits of creatine upset you so much.

[MrLean]

I have a question 

Last time I used creatine my face changed alot because of the water ( a lot less lean )

Im planning to use it again...if I go off creatine after 2 - 3 months will I loose all water again? And is it possible that I get wrinkles forever? 

[abijahmaniaco]

Meltdown.

Hormones>>>>>>>>>>creatine, simple and straightforward.

I don't take hgh, just low dose gear. I'm sorry that me being factual about the merits of creatine upset you so much.

lol
what's a creatine thread doing on here anyway? i mean, is this bodybuilding.com?

[abijahmaniaco]

Is this even English?  Just busting balls.  I guess English is a second language for you.

1100 posts and you're asking this?

[True]

yeah, well not really. for example i have no biceps and i have no problem curling 30 lb dumbells. kai greene also curls 30 lb dumbells, but our biceps—there's no comparison.

Your argument sucks dick. Kai is a drug lab, anyone on drugs can lift light weights and still get huge. Nothing matters while your on drugs...

Gaining strength is very important if you want to get bigger none the less.

[True]

I can attest to that.

It definitely works wonders in the beginning. Then the gains taper off as the body gets saturated. The hyper response was gone after 3-4 cycles completed for 12-16 weeks each time.

Later on after about 2 years of consistent use, it was more of a maintenance approach with it.

Then again i took creatine after about a 7-8 year lay off, and got the same type of response when i first started. Strength and mass gains were quite astounding.

Now it's a mix of hormones and creatine. You can only go to a certain level with creatine usage. My weight and strength never budged after i got to 224lb from the 160s, and 222lb the second time around. Tried mixing them together, it threw all the blood work numbers off. Most importantly, it was very difficult to workout with creatine due to it causing a serious electrolyte imbalance resulting in debilitating spasms and cramps.

Overall, there is a definitely a place for creatine in every weightlifter/BBs arsenal.

Yep, pretty much the same thing with NO Xplode. First time I tried it, I was shocked by the affect I got from it. It was unreal, but then the second time and the times after - it was just meh, and nothing else... The body becomes tolerant to the supplements so you either have to up the dosage, or try something stronger. I still think its a good supplement I use now and then, but mostly for motivation.

[randy841]

Meltdown.

Hormones>>>>>>>>>>creatine, simple and straightforward.

I don't take hgh, just low dose gear. I'm sorry that me being factual about the merits of creatine upset you so much.

Wow ... that is enlightening Jamie. Tx Einstein for pointing that out.  

Creatine deserves its own merit as does GH and Anabolic steroids in the drug world.

Next time instead of ranting and whining like a little bitch. Take other peoples experience for what it's worth. We are all here to share and learn. Don't let your biases supersede your good judgement

[Jaime]

Wow ... that is enlightening Jamie. Tx Einstein for pointing that out.  

Creatine deserves its own merit as does GH and Anabolic steroids in the drug world.

Next time instead of ranting and whining like a little bitch. Take other peoples experience for what it's worth. We are all here to share and learn. Don't let your biases supersede your good judgement

Look Randy good fellow.

I wrote a two sentence summary of the relative merits of creatine, where as you had a 5000 word meltdown over it. For it's price and potency in comparison to alternatives it's pretty much useless.

If you wish to believe otherwise then go ahead.

You are being a real bitch over this.