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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2012, 12:00:17 PM »

weed usually doesnt have that relaxing effect on me, my heart rate goes up give me headaches and stuff, im all for xtc, great drug, i can write books full of why i love it.
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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2012, 12:11:10 PM »

Benzo's can make you depressed, but not after the 1st dose.
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2012, 01:18:25 PM »

Benzo's can make you depressed, but not after the 1st dose.
Exactly.
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2012, 01:20:59 PM »

I take Xanax to fly. I can't stand to fly. My doc gives me a script for 15 half mg pills Nd it lasts two flights. No shit, when my anxiety for flying is bad, I take four or five and have a few drinks and I am still anxious about flying. Took six(3mg) on my way to Europe and that did the trick. They don't work too well, but my only other option is sleeping pills, but then I get groggy when I land. Xanax usually don't bother me.
Have you ever tried ATIVAN ( Lorazepam ) ? If not.......try 1mg of Ativan.
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« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2012, 01:22:55 PM »

All benzo's are really the same. Do not kid yourself.
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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2012, 01:27:36 PM »

Why did the doc prescribe them? Did you tell him you had general anxiety? Or did you have panic attacks?
Benzos work by enhancing GABA-ergic transmission.
GABA is an inhibitory neurotransmitter, a 'chiller'. It chills you out. Laid back people usually have
high levels of GABA. People that are fearful or timid often have very low GABA levels or poor GABA-ergic
transmission. High GABA levels usually make people more social (alcohol affects GABA, which is why so many
people become talkative and outgoing when drinking).
If benzos make you depressed, you probably have plenty of GABA already, and don't really need them unless
you begin to experience a panic attack.
Some people like abusing them recreationally because it gives you a drunken feeling and carefree attitude.

They are very effective drugs for panic attacks, but I feel they shouldn't be used for anything else. Tolerance
develops quickly, they are highly addictive, and withdrawals are a bitch.
Also, the GABA system of the brain is very fragile and hard to repair. If you mess it up with benzos it can take
years for it to recover. Neuros like Dopamine and Serotonin rebuild fairly quickly when people stop using drugs
that affect those systems.... but not GABA. Be careful.



What do you think is a good alternative for strong anxiety issues?
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« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2012, 01:29:53 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2012, 01:30:57 PM »

For panic disorder a SSRI is better than a benzo.
For a phobia there's only behavioural therapy.
For a general anxiety disorder try Venlafaxine.

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« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2012, 01:33:04 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2012, 01:43:32 PM »

I'm not a Muse fan, but this is one of their better songs
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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2012, 04:12:32 PM »

For panic disorder a SSRI is better than a benzo.
For a phobia there's only behavioural therapy.
For a general anxiety disorder try Venlafaxine.

says Dr Dutch
I take prozac and trazodone for panic disorder. And yes, with PHOBIAS theres, Exposure therapy with the use of CBT.I think that PAXIL AND PROZAC can be used for GAD as well......im not sure though.  And ive heard that Effexor ( venlafaxine ) is an effective medication. My therapist told me at a high dose, i think she said like 325 mg, can be used for Treating the part of the brain that causes Physcosis.
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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2012, 04:27:14 PM »

What do you think is a good alternative for strong anxiety issues?
If you dont mind me asking, what is causing the " strong anxiety issues "  ??
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2012, 07:02:58 AM »

zany,s are a bitch to come off,trust me. like someone above said,they are good to come down of the ye yo.
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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2012, 09:48:24 AM »

If you dont mind me asking, what is causing the " strong anxiety issues "  ??

I'm an aspie with stong psychotic tendancies. It goes through phases and can be nothing or everything depending on my frame of mind.

No i'm not kidding.
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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2012, 09:51:35 AM »

I'm not a Muse fan, but this is one of their better songs

they actually have several good songs like that, hysteria is very good too

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYWklAV_cwQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYWklAV_cwQ</a>
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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2012, 10:10:11 AM »

Their tracks are actually pretty good, esp the guitar work, but I hate those girlish sounding singers.
Where are today's Eddie Vedders & Gavin Rossdales? A male who sings like a female is like a BBer with small clavicles.
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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2012, 10:12:20 AM »

haha true, can you imagine im a fan of leonard cohen
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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2012, 10:19:13 AM »

Yes, that's how a man should sing!, not like those gaylords on the radio.
I was pleased to read that he won that lawsuit against that bitch.

http://www.volkskrant.guy-Leonard-Cohen-wint-treiterzaak-van-ex-manager.dhtml
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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2012, 10:34:05 AM »

Yes, that's how a man should sing!, not like those gaylords on the radio.
I was pleased to read that he won that lawsuit against that bitch.

http://www.volkskrant.guy-Leonard-Cohen-wint-treiterzaak-van-ex-manager.dhtml

yes cant understand why someone would harm leonard in any way. great person he is.
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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2012, 10:35:37 AM »

Make me feel warm and fuzzy, sort of like "gone", some nice drug to treat yourself with.
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« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2012, 10:37:37 AM »

Yes, that's how a man should sing!, not like those gaylords on the radio.
I was pleased to read that he won that lawsuit against that bitch.

http://www.volkskrant.guy-Leonard-Cohen-wint-treiterzaak-van-ex-manager.dhtml

Scientist have come to the conclusion that any man who sings or wants to sing, might have the homosexual gene. Singers are story tellers. Telling a story in the form of song is actually pretty fucking gay.
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« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2012, 10:38:20 AM »

Scientist have come to the conclusion that any man who sings or wants to sing, might have the homosexual gene. Singers are story tellers. Telling a story in the form of song is actually pretty fucking gay.

The same scientist have come to the conclusion about any man who dances.
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« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2012, 11:07:53 AM »

The same scientist have come to the conclusion about any man who dances.

I fully agree with this one. It's pretty unfair that a dancing fagg attracts more pussy, than a quiet man, sipping his whiskey.
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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2012, 11:11:13 AM »

Scientist have come to the conclusion that any man who sings or wants to sing, might have the homosexual gene. Singers are story tellers. Telling a story in the form of song is actually pretty fucking gay.

Don't tell me this is gay Roll Eyes

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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2012, 12:17:04 PM »

I'm an aspie with stong psychotic tendancies. It goes through phases and can be nothing or everything depending on my frame of mind.

No i'm not kidding.
Aspergers? Im not a doc or physciatrist so i have no idea what meds can be used.
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