When “stand your ground” fails

[Fury]

he seemed sqfully angry.   I bet trayvon did swing first.  I bet zimmy had never taken an ass whooping in his life and figured "halt and explain yourself!" would work.   Sure didn't.

And he is a real cawk for citing 'stand your ground' instead of legal defense by forcible felony with inability to flee.  

Oh look, Pravda boy making things up as he goes again. Here I was thinking you'd shut up after your claims were summarily destroyed by the same MSM sources you got them from when they were forced to eat crow.

Oh well, carry on with propagandizing from your trailer, oracle.

[Straw Man]

agreed, but the thing is he didnt do anything wrong in either scenario...
stupid, yes...illegal, NOOOOOO

you have no way to know that statement is true

if he confronted, challenged and instigated a confrontation then I don't see how "stand your ground" applies

as I've said for I think the 4th time now no one knows how their "meeting" ended in Martin being shot to death

[Shockwave]

you have no way to know that statement is true

if he confronted, challenged and instigated a confrontation then I don't see how "stand your ground" applies

as I've said for I think the 4th time now no one knows how their "meeting" ended in Martin being shot to death

I dont really believe anyone thinks "stand your ground" itself applies here... this is more self-defense. The "stand your ground" law doesnt apply here. JMHO.

[Soul Crusher]

he seemed sqfully angry.   I bet trayvon did swing first.  I bet zimmy had never taken an ass whooping in his life and figured "halt and explain yourself!" would work.   Sure didn't.

And he is a real cawk for citing 'stand your ground' instead of legal defense by forcible felony with inability to flee.  

Seemed angry?  WTF are you talking about!!!! 

Why do you keep lying? 

The phone conversation to me seemed like he was very calm and matter of fact. 

[240 is Back]

Seemed angry?  WTF are you talking about!!!! 

Why do you keep lying? 

The phone conversation to me seemed like he was very calm and matter of fact. 

Zimmerman stated "these assholes, they always get away" and also said "these fucking punks."...

Does that seem calm to you?  bwahahahahaha stop sucking zimmerdick and just admit he's an angry prick, legal shoot, he's a big liar, and he's giftwrapping an obama distraction and bloomy anti-gun campaign.

"winning" = you wish.

[Shockwave]

Zimmerman stated "these assholes, they always get away" and also said "these fucking punks."...

Does that seem calm to you?  bwahahahahaha stop sucking zimmerdick and just admit he's an angry prick, legal shoot, he's a big liar, and he's giftwrapping an obama distraction and bloomy anti-gun campaign.

"winning" = you wish.

AGAIN WITH THE LIES YOU FUCKING IDIOT!
They examined the tape, he said "Fucking cold" you dumb fuck, why do you keep ignoring when called out on it yet run to another thread and post your lies? You think no one will notice!?
You stop sucking your own cock you motherfucking dolt.

Its like youre getting further and further distanced from reality trying to justify letting the MSM form your opinions for you when this started.
Now its "its a legal shoot but he's a liar", yeah, its a legal shoot once everyone bombarded you with the facts, in the begining your were a fucking parrot of MSNBC, every fucking word out of your mouth was "Vigilante asshole just wanted to kill this poor innocent kid".

GTFO, you have no credibility on this issue anymore, over and over youve shown yourself to have no grasp on what happened and you take what youve read off whatever MSM shithole you read and twist it to try and make yourself feel less like the fucking sheep you were.

[240 is Back]

AGAIN LIES YOUR FUCKING IDIOT!
They examined the tape, he said "Fucking cold" you dumb fuck, why do you keep ignoring when called out on it yet run to another thread and post your lies? You think no one will notice!?
You stop sucking your own cock you motherfucking dolt.

okay, who is "they"?  Cause Fury posted a clip showing it was "punks" and not the c-word.   now it's cold?  Tell me the video he posted - very high quality and clear - was wrong?

Okay, i'll conceded that, what about calling them assholes.  It's dark and he's on foot chasing a person he believes to be on drugs with something in his hand from his waistband.... merging the person he's chasing with "those assholes" who always get away...

Yeah, if that's calm, what's angry?  Hitting cops and beating wife?  LOL wait, maybe this does fit zimm rather well...

[Soul Crusher]

Zimmerman stated "these assholes, they always get away" and also said "these fucking punks."...

Does that seem calm to you?  bwahahahahaha stop sucking zimmerdick and just admit he's an angry prick, legal shoot, he's a big liar, and he's giftwrapping an obama distraction and bloomy anti-gun campaign.

"winning" = you wish.

You are a dishonest liar.   He said 'cold" not punks and the tape did noty sound angry.  

Now that his negihbors completely destroyed your faux narrative that holder. jesse. obama, and the msm tried to create is collapsing you are even more desperate.  

[240 is Back]

You are a dishonest liar.   He said 'cold" not punks and the tape did noty sound angry.  

Now that his negihbors completely destroyed your faux narrative that holder. jesse. obama, and the msm tried to create is collapsing you are even more desperate.  

Fury posted a great video showing it was "punks" - a pro sound engineer isolated it and it was pretty clear.   Now it's something else?  I thought it was a slur, and i was wrong.  that video made it clear.  33, please post the evidence where "they" show it was "COLD" and not punks?

I love it that you're at the point where you're defending a guy who beats his wife, pushes cops, votes obama, and overall acts like a whiny bitch... cause it's like libya... it's a position you have committed to, and now it's tough to step back and say "wow, maybe zimm did kinda cause the whole mess"

[Shockwave]

okay, who is "they"?  Cause Fury posted a clip showing it was "punks" and not the c-word.   now it's cold?  Tell me the video he posted - very high quality and clear - was wrong?

Okay, i'll conceded that, what about calling them assholes.  It's dark and he's on foot chasing a person he believes to be on drugs with something in his hand from his waistband.... merging the person he's chasing with "those assholes" who always get away...

Yeah, if that's calm, what's angry?  Hitting cops and beating wife?  LOL wait, maybe this does fit zimm rather well...

Video!?
It was analyzed by audio experts and posted all over the news sites you fucking dolt!

[Shockwave]

Here you go moron
FYI Its CNN that analyzed the Audio. Eat crow you fuckstick.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/05/CNN-####-Cold-Zimmerman

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2012/04/05/ac-tuchman-zimmerman-audio-enhanced.cnn

[Soul Crusher]

240 - you really should be ashamed of yourself. 

[240 is Back]

Video!?
It was analyzed by audio experts and posted all over the news sites you fucking dolt!

link?   cause "all the news sites" have put out a lot of bad info lately.  

Please link the evidence that it was "cold" and not "punks".  

Aside from that, we're arging about word #2 when there's no doubt he called them assholes when he said "these assholes always get away with it".

So to me, he's not exactly calm there.   Maybe yall consider that calm - pursuing a person he believes on drugs with something in hand form waistband... into the darkness...  calling him profanity... and he's "calm".

hahahahahahhahaha doesn't sound calm to me dude.

[Shockwave]

Fury posted a great video showing it was "punks" - a pro sound engineer isolated it and it was pretty clear.   Now it's something else?  I thought it was a slur, and i was wrong.  that video made it clear.  33, please post the evidence where "they" show it was "COLD" and not punks?

I love it that you're at the point where you're defending a guy who beats his wife, pushes cops, votes obama, and overall acts like a whiny bitch... cause it's like libya... it's a position you have committed to, and now it's tough to step back and say "wow, maybe zimm did kinda cause the whole mess"

Backpedal and deflect, backpedal and deflect...
Dont you ever get tired of looking like a jackass? You need to learn when to bow out and STFU.

[Shockwave]

link?   cause "all the news sites" have put out a lot of bad info lately.  

Please link the evidence that it was "cold" and not "punks".  

Aside from that, we're arging about word #2 when there's no doubt he called them assholes when he said "these assholes always get away with it".

So to me, he's not exactly calm there.   Maybe yall consider that calm - pursuing a person he believes on drugs with something in hand form waistband... into the darkness...  calling him profanity... and he's "calm".

hahahahahahhahaha doesn't sound calm to me dude.

Theres a link right below it moron.
Guess what, it was CN fucking N. (You know, the news agency you claim is the most unbiased yet "boring") 
Yet again, lies from you.

[240 is Back]

240 - you really should be ashamed of yourself.  

I've watched this clip many times.  I don't hear "cold".  The word sounds plural to me.  Hell, that CNn call sounds like it definitely has the "oooo" sounds in it.  And it sounds plural.  Ends in "S".   Maybe he's saying "Fcking colds..."   That doesn't make sense to me.  

It ends in an S, whatever he's saying.   I mean, "punks" is a lot more credible than "colds".   Colds doesn't make sense.  It's plural.

[Soul Crusher]

Fuck off.   You are blatantly lying now. 

[Shockwave]

I've watched this clip many times.  I don't hear "cold".  The word sounds plural to me.  Hell, that CNn call sounds like it definitely has the "oooo" sounds in it.  And it sounds plural.  Ends in "S".   Maybe he's saying "Fcking colds..."   That doesn't make sense to me.  

It ends in an S, whatever he's saying.   I mean, "punks" is a lot more credible than "colds".   Colds doesn't make sense.  It's plural.

It was fucking storming the night it happened. They had high end audiophyles analyze it. And this is CNN, your admitted unbiased news agency. And youre goign to sit there from your trailer pretending to know listening on your shitty low quality laptop?

Pathetic 240. You just dont know when to quit.

Epic. Lulz.

[Shockwave]

Fuck off.   You are blatantly lying now. 

Hahaha, this mothefucker, he's so far off into Zimmerman hate land that he's literally writing his own reality.
Poor sad bastard.

[240 is Back]

okay - the 2nd word is in dispute.  The 1st word is not.

He clearly called trayvon an asshole.  He told the 911 operator he was on drugs.  he referred to something coming from waistband into hand - most ppl with common sense might think he was hinting to the cop there might be a gun there.   He was drama queening it up for the 911 operator, and ppl often do.

Which is fine - but that makes him instantly non credible.  You have a kid with skittles suddenly transformed into a stoned dude with "something" in his hand from waistband.

Then he 'calmly" calls him an asshole and pursures him into the darkness.


I just don't even know what we're arging about now.  We agree the shoot was legal - we're just arging about if zimm was calm or not?  lol.

[Soul Crusher]

okay - the 2nd word is in dispute.  The 1st word is not.

He clearly called trayvon an asshole.  He told the 911 operator he was on drugs.  he referred to something coming from waistband into hand - most ppl with common sense might think he was hinting to the cop there might be a gun there.   He was drama queening it up for the 911 operator, and ppl often do.

Which is fine - but that makes him instantly non credible.  You have a kid with skittles suddenly transformed into a stoned dude with "something" in his hand from waistband.

Then he 'calmly" calls him an asshole and pursures him into the darkness.


I just don't even know what we're arging about now.  We agree the shoot was legal - we're just arging about if zimm was calm or not?  lol.

speechless.   Just stop. 

[240 is Back]

If trayvon had called Zimm an asshole, jumped out of his truck, followed him home, and shot him dead within sight of his home...

would you be calling him 'calm', 333386?  

lol I just can't help but think if everything was flipped 100%, you'd be saying "Trayvon winning!"  

if trayvon had a record for hitting a cop and beating his wife... alcohol counseling.... would you really be saying he was stable and reliable as a witness?

[Shockwave]

okay - the 2nd word is in dispute.  The 1st word is not.

He clearly called trayvon an asshole.  He told the 911 operator he was on drugs.  he referred to something coming from waistband into hand - most ppl with common sense might think he was hinting to the cop there might be a gun there.   He was drama queening it up for the 911 operator, and ppl often do.

Which is fine - but that makes him instantly non credible.  You have a kid with skittles suddenly transformed into a stoned dude with "something" in his hand from waistband.

Then he 'calmly" calls him an asshole and pursures him into the darkness.


I just don't even know what we're arging about now.  We agree the shoot was legal - we're just arging about if zimm was calm or not?  lol.

Dude... just give it up already. Youre hinging youre entire judgment of a mans character on the fact that he called someone an asshole, and that he described a kid to the operator. Thats your only fact. Everything else youre simply twisting and projecting your opinion onto him. He said "he has something in his waistband". To you thats "He has a gun". Its pathetic dude.

[Shockwave]

If trayvon had called Zimm an asshole, jumped out of his truck, followed him home, and shot him dead within sight of his home...

would you be calling him 'calm', 333386?  

lol I just can't help but think if everything was flipped 100%, you'd be saying "Trayvon winning!"  

if trayvon had a record for hitting a cop and beating his wife... alcohol counseling.... would you really be saying he was stable and reliable as a witness?

Youre an idiot. You base your whole argument on lies and half-truths, and assumptions, because deep in your heart, you believe hes "that guy". Youre just like a religious fanatic grasping at straws to validate your belief. Its sad.

[Straw Man]

I dont really believe anyone thinks "stand your ground" itself applies here... this is more self-defense. The "stand your ground" law doesnt apply here. JMHO.

self defense is Zimmermans claim but we really dont' know if that is true either

how do we know that Zimmerman didn't try to detain Martin (who was supposedly trying to get away from Zimmerman prior to their confrontation)

just because Zimmerman has a scrape on his head doesn't prove his life was in danger or that he wasn't the agressor or that he was justified in using deadly force

hopefully a trial will answer all of those questions