What would you add?

[theisen]

1-12 500 prop
1-12 500 npp
Tren susp 2x a week on leg days
.25 ari


Would you add dbol? thinking of just adding a low dose of 30mg ed 1-4 and 8-12

or
1-12 500 prop
1-12 750 npp
1-12 500 tren e

option 1 = hg option 2= ug

[SmoofCat]

1-12 500 prop
1-12 500 npp
Tren susp 2x a week on leg days
.25 ari


Would you add dbol? thinking of just adding a low dose of 30mg ed 1-4 and 8-12

or
1-12 500 prop
1-12 750 npp
1-12 500 tren e

option 1 = hg option 2= ug

What are your goals?

I'm not going to sugar coat this, I don't like either cycle at all. Cycle 2 is better but go ALL short Esther, so trade the tren E for tren A and run 50 mg Ed (you'll get same active amount of tren and it will b less sides and better results)

Cycle 1 I just wouldn't do ever personally

[theisen]

What are your goals?

I'm not going to sugar coat this, I don't like either cycle at all. Cycle 2 is better but go ALL short Esther, so trade the tren E for tren A and run 50 mg Ed (you'll get same active amount of tren and it will b less sides and better results)

Cycle 1 I just wouldn't do ever personally

just grow as much as possible, unable to get tren a atm, tren e is the only option:/

well what would you recomend smoof? test npp and ?

[Sector]

just grow as much as possible, unable to get tren a atm, tren e is the only option:/

well what would you recomend smoof? test npp and ?

test npp and tren A. If not, test and even more Tren A.

Find a way to get tren a, plenty of sources.

[theisen]

test npp and tren A. If not, test and even more Tren A.

Find a way to get tren a, plenty of sources.

Not in my country:) so what would u do if u couldnt add tren? Eq?

[Overload]

Prop, NPP & Tren E is a great combo.

700mg Prop
350mg NPP
500mg Tren E

I'm not a big fan of NPP, but you should make some decent gains on this cycle. I would also prefer you use Tren A, but Tren E is fine for what you are doing.

Just my .02.

[bywhatevermeans]

Add more tren if anything at all

[theisen]

Think ill do:

175 prop
500 tren
500 eq or more

But would you frontload the eq? As its only 12weeks, id pref 16 on eq

[theisen]

found a source that can provide me tren a, so itll be


175 prop ew
750 npp ew
500 tren a ew

never had any gyno from test + tren, no idea about npp, never ran it or deca before, any ai reckomended incase?

[randy841]

found a source that can provide me tren a, so itll be


175 prop ew
750 npp ew
500 tren a ew

never had any gyno from test + tren, no idea about npp, never ran it or deca before, any ai reckomended incase?

AI - Arimidex

Have a prolactin antagonist on hand also.

[theisen]

AI - Arimidex

Have a prolactin antagonist on hand also.

.25 ed?

[randy841]

.25 ed?

.25mg ed is sufficient. Or you can do .50mg eod. Arimidex has a long half-life.

[theisen]

.25mg ed is sufficient. Or you can do .50mg eod. Arimidex has a long half-life.

Then ill do .5 eod:-) easier to split it in 2 than 4 anyway, thanks guys