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SS broke by 2033.
« on: April 23, 2012, 12:52:27 PM »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47146656

Krugman and the leftist thugs will try to deny his. 

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Re: SS broke by 2033.
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2012, 03:21:39 PM »
Medicare funding runs short by 2024, trustees say
CNN ^ | April 23rd 2012 | Jeanne Sahadi






NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Highlighting the fiscal problems posed by growing health costs and an aging population, the trustees of Medicare estimated Monday that the program will only be able to pay a portion of promised benefits starting in 2024. That's the same year the trustees had estimated a year ago.

Every year the Medicare trustees, who also oversee Social Security, release an annual report on both programs' long-term financial outlook. Unless Congress makes changes to Medicare, or overall health costs come down, Medicare will only be able to pay 87% of expected costs by 2024 and 67% by 2050.

Put another way, if lawmakers wanted to make the program solvent over the next 75 years, they would need to raise the 2.9% Medicare tax on all wages to 4.25%.


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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2012, 03:36:50 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2012, 04:47:51 PM »
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Re: SS broke by 2033.
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2012, 06:50:50 PM »
Trayvon!

LOL coming from the guy who has probably logged 800 posts on the subject over the last month and a half.


Move along, folks. Nothing to see here. That fiscal cliff we're heading for is alright because the Usurper deserves another 4 years because of Bush. Fuck finances!  ::)

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 08:15:07 PM »
Superstar has fallen on hard times ???
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2012, 08:45:41 PM »
Trayvon!
LOL, coming from Mr. Justice for Trayvon himself.

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2012, 08:57:23 PM »
Superstar has fallen on hard times ???


 ;D  I think he ate his way into bankruptcy.

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Re: SS broke by 2033.
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2012, 04:35:05 AM »
Trustees say Medicare, Social Security funds running out quickly (Yes, it's Obama's fault!)
The Hill ^ | 4/23/2012 | By Sam Baker




Medicare and Social Security are on a fast track to deep fiscal problems, trustees for the two programs warned Monday.

The Medicare trust fund will be “exhausted” — meaning it won’t have enough money on hand to cover the benefits it’s supposed to provide — by 2024, the trustees said, the same time frame anticipated in a report last year. Social Security will reach that tipping point in 2033, three years earlier than predicted last year.

“Under current law, both of these vitally important programs are on unsustainable paths,” Trustee Robert Reischauer said Monday.

Both parties looked to score political points on the news, with Obama administration officials saying Medicare’s woes would be far more severe without the 2010 healthcare law, while Republicans used the new estimates to argue that President Obama isn’t serious about entitlement reform.

The trustees called on Congress to repair the entitlements quickly, saying a prompt approach would leave more options on the table and allow lawmakers to make changes gradually.


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Another disastrous failure of Obama.     FU obamabots! 

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Re: SS broke by 2033.
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2012, 05:13:31 AM »
The Obama administration is very predictable on this subject. Since they don't have any answers, even after being touted as the "most intelligent" administration ever, and after wasting their time in order to push for a health care reform that might be ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS, they send Geithner to attack the Ryan budget plan. Nevermind that for 3 years the Dems were in control of the legislative and executive branches, yet did not provide a single bill that adequately addressed the issue.

Where is the Dems' plan? Or for that matter, when is the messiah going to save us?

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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2012, 05:20:43 AM »
 :). Obamas failure to back simpson bowles is right at the top of the list of his worst failures in office.

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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2012, 05:40:07 AM »
  I have tens of thousands of dollars in stock purchases that I can also invest in a private company or in other stocks. I'd personally like to opt out of Social(ism) Security and get a refund of the money they've been deducting from my paychecks since I was 18.

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Re: SS broke by 2033.
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2012, 09:24:06 AM »
This is what I have a hard time understanding, I may have brought this up before.

How in the hell was Social Security sold to the American people?


Why wouldn't you just save and invest your own money as opposed to trusting dirt bag politicians with it?  Even more so back in the 1930's when people still had some common sense and valued independence.

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Re: SS broke by 2033.
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2012, 09:37:32 AM »
 :).  Originally it was mostly for widows or truly indegent.  It was also a tiny tax.   

The problem is that the math does not work.  Its a classic ponzi scheme.

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Re: SS broke by 2033.
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2012, 07:04:34 PM »
Social Security Faces Unfunded Liability of $8.6T, or $73,167.83 Per Household
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Posted on April 24, 2012 7:47:48 PM EDT by Sub-Driver

Social Security Faces Unfunded Liability of $8.6T, or $73,167.83 Per Household By Christopher Goins April 24, 2012

(CNSNews.com) - Social Security faces an unfunded liability of $8.6 trillion, according to the 2012 Annual Report of the Board of Trustees of the Federal Old-Age and Survivors Insurance and Federal Disability Insurance Trust Funds.

The unfunded liability is the amount that has been promised in benefits to people now alive that will not be funded by the tax revenue the system is expected to take in to pay for those benefits. (The Social Security trustees calculate the unfunded liability for a period of 75 years into the future, from 2012 to 2086)

The $8.6 trillion in unfunded benefits Social Security is expected to pay over the next 75 years equals $73,167.83 for each of the 117,538,000 households the Census Bureau said were in the United States in 2010.

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Re: SS broke by 2033.
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2012, 05:22:54 PM »
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Don't look now, but Social Security's trust funds are vanishing
Washington Examiner ^ | 04/27/2012 | Veronique de Rugy
Posted on April 28, 2012 7:36:33 PM EDT by SeekAndFind

You had better start increasing your personal retirement savings, because Social Security is fast approaching insolvency. According to the latest Social Security Trustees' report, released Monday, the program's combined trust funds will be exhausted by 2033 -- three years earlier than last year's projection and seven years earlier than projections made in 2006.

This means that by 2033 Social Security benefits would have to be slashed significantly. Sounds bad, right? Well, it gets worse.

Since 2010, Social Security has been running a permanent cash-flow deficit. This means that the taxes collected for the program aren't enough to cover the benefits going to retirees. The last time this happened was at the beginning of the 1980s.

Social Security optimists will argue, this time around, that the program can draw on the $2.7 trillion in assets accumulated in its trust funds. That's why Congress created the trust funds in 1983, following the recommendations of the Greenspan Commission. In any year when the program runs a surplus, Social Security invests it in trust funds, from which benefits are paid in years when outlays exceeded payroll tax receipts.

For instance in 2011, the payroll tax brought in $691 billion to pay the $746 billion in retirement benefits. To fill the gap, Social Security drew from the trust fund balances to make payments to retirees. This system will theoretically continue until the trust fund assets are exhausted in 2033. At that point, current law dictates that benefits will be slashed to the level of payroll tax revenues. That will translate to a 25 percent benefit cut across the board.

Think about it this way. Today, monthly Social Security benefits average $1,125 per recipient. After the cut, benefits would dropped to $843.75 -- a $3,375 reduction in benefits a year..

There's another reason why these trends are alarming. For years, the federal government has used Social Security's surpluses to pay for roads, education and wars. Now that the Social Security program will be demanding its money back from the Department of Treasury on an annual basis, the government will have to borrow more and more from investors, increasing the publicly held debt at a greater pace.

Lawmakers could also cut benefits or raise taxes, but they are usually reluctant to go down these unpopular roads. Neither party has introduced a serious plan to reform Social Security, but both sides have, for two years running, supported reductions in payroll tax rates without equal benefit cuts. To pull this off, policymakers borrow yet more money and transfer it to the Social Security Trust Fund to make it appear as if tax revenue was collected. It is another unfunded promise to seniors that will be paid for by future generations.

Unfortunately, Congress has been using a similar gimmick for some time. Beneficiaries of the Earned Income Tax Credit, for example, already have their share of the payroll tax refunded to them. The Making Work Pay tax credit -- part of the stimulus bill -- did the same.

The silver lining to Social Security's new annual deficit is that it exposes the fiction that the program doesn't need reform because it is fully backed by tax contributions. This is important, because a failure to reform the program means dramatic benefits cuts in the future, even for the poorest Americans. Lawmakers have many policy options to choose from: private accounts, privatization with safety net for the poor or eligibility age hike. The only bad option is to do nothing.