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Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« on: April 26, 2012, 02:30:57 PM »
Standing Military presses
Who does these?
I know goudy is a beast at these?
who else does these? better than the seated version?
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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 02:31:58 PM »
standing hurts my lower back... i stick with seated db

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2012, 02:39:03 PM »
standing hurts my lower back... i stick with seated db

same here...why risk tweaking a muscle and getting hurt. i normally do the hammer strength military machine for these,and i put the seat down really low so when the weight is in the bottom position, it's right at the top of my delts.

I see so many guys using an extreme ROM and putting their delts in a compromising position, over time that will damage the shoulder joint

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2012, 02:51:06 PM »
If you "look through" the bar when it passes your head you should not hurt your back at all.

I do like standing presses and rate them highly.

My shoulder worout at the minute is

Seated DB Press 4-5 sets
Standing BB Press 5-6 sets

I used to do side laterals but do not bother anymore.

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2012, 04:03:18 PM »
If you "look through" the bar when it passes your head you should not hurt your back at all.

I do like standing presses and rate them highly.

My shoulder worout at the minute is

Seated DB Press 4-5 sets
Standing BB Press 5-6 sets

I used to do side laterals but do not bother anymore.


Did some standing barbell presses today felt good....thinking about making them  mainstay
and yes when you "look through the bar" it takes some pressue off the lower back but one you get heavy it does punish the lower back.

@ groink whats your ROM on shoulder presses do you empsise the top half of the movement or the bottom.


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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2012, 04:10:41 PM »


Did some standing barbell presses today felt good....thinking about making them  mainstay
and yes when you "look through the bar" it takes some pressue off the lower back but one you get heavy it does punish the lower back.

@ groink whats your ROM on shoulder presses do you empsise the top half of the movement or the bottom.




I wouldn't say I emphasize any one part, i do a full ROM, but i don't let the bar go down past the top of my shoulders..I don't like the way it feels on my shoulder joints. You see some guys that let the bar go halfway down their chests on militaries...shoulder wasn't built for that kind of pressure. at least mine weren't

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2012, 04:11:11 PM »
same here...why risk tweaking a muscle and getting hurt. i normally do the hammer strength military machine for these,and i put the seat down really low so when the weight is in the bottom position, it's right at the top of my delts.

I see so many guys using an extreme ROM and putting their delts in a compromising position, over time that will damage the shoulder joint

strong broscience here

actually seated version puts much more stress on spine.

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2012, 04:14:03 PM »
strong broscience here

actually seated version puts much more stress on spine.

where did i say "spine" one time in that post ?  ;)

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2012, 04:14:18 PM »
I agree and that is true. More stress on spine seated.

Also I press from clavicle.

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2012, 04:22:37 PM »
Also if you want to start talking, yes...you will have more compression on your spine in a seated position, but it's a stable compression because your body is in a static position.

standing you are not stable in any way, and you have far more risk of pulling a muscle as your body is forced to stabilize that load as you press it up. every muscle in your body is firing like crazy to control that load, one wrong move and you could be injured, also a good way to get a hernia

and i wasn't taking about spine pressure to begin with, but about stabilizing your trunk so as not to pull a muscle, and a safe ROM

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2012, 04:30:30 PM »
I wouldn't say I emphasize any one part, i do a full ROM, but i don't let the bar go down past the top of my shoulders..I don't like the way it feels on my shoulder joints. You see some guys that let the bar go halfway down their chests on militaries...shoulder wasn't built for that kind of pressure. at least mine weren't
oh I see that all the time i just shake my head at that... bar all the way down past the chest.... thats begging for a shoulder injury
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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2012, 06:44:25 PM »
standing hurts my lower back... i stick with seated db
agreed.....seems to compress lower back, not a good pain.

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2012, 06:56:37 PM »
My lower back is fucked so I prefer seated,plus it makes the movement more strict which hopefully will result in better delts.

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2012, 07:04:40 PM »
Standing military press is one of my staples.

It works a lot more parts of your body than most people realize.

I prefer to clean the weight to my shoulders and then do a strict press with no leg drive. I also do push presses and clean and jerk on a regular basis.


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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2012, 07:08:55 PM »
My lower back is fucked so I prefer seated,plus it makes the movement more strict which hopefully will result in better delts.
you need dumbell lunges they will save your lower back
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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2012, 07:09:01 PM »
seated > standing

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2012, 07:13:58 PM »
Hurts my back doing them seated. I love doing them standing as it makes me feel caveman strong.

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2012, 07:25:11 PM »
Standing hands down.
It's funny though when I see people doing them seated and turn it into an incline bench.

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2012, 07:27:15 PM »
this generation of lifters are too pussy for certain movement, military press being one of them

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2012, 07:30:25 PM »
Standing hands down.


The proper way to do them is with your hands up

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2012, 10:06:38 PM »
I do standing bbell and db presses, and I use the tall back bench when I do seated so it doesn't turn into an incline bench, but standing are a staple of my training.
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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2012, 10:11:48 PM »
Standing hands down.
It's funny though when I see people doing them seated and turn it into an incline bench.

Thats why I go behind the neck. Cant go as heave but it stops any cheating and chest assisting.

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2012, 10:14:06 PM »
Standing only with full range of motion then once heavier just above the collar bone. Sitting MP doesn't compare at all.

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2012, 10:31:32 PM »
Seated on a smith machine with NO back support ie a regular flat bech, or use a preacher bench with the arm rest turned around..It allows the same body mechanics as standing when you arch your lower back. i feel it better in my delts this way.

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Re: Standing Military presses vs seated military presss
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2012, 12:53:30 AM »
If you "look through" the bar when it passes your head you should not hurt your back at all.

I do like standing presses and rate them highly.

My shoulder worout at the minute is

Seated DB Press 4-5 sets
Standing BB Press 5-6 sets

I used to do side laterals but do not bother anymore.


couldn't agree more, press are the key for delt mass