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Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« on: April 28, 2012, 07:49:08 AM »
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Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
By PETER BAKER and MICHAEL D. SHEAR
WASHINGTON — Presidents running for re-election typically boast of programs they created, people they helped or laws they signed. They talk about rising test scores or falling deficits or expanding job rolls. President Obama is increasingly taking the unusual route of bragging about how he killed a man.

To be sure, that man was Osama bin Laden, and he is not mourned among either the president’s supporters or detractors. But in the days leading up to the first anniversary of the raid that finally caught up to the Qaeda mastermind, Mr. Obama has made a concerted, if to some indecorous, effort to trumpet the killing as perhaps the central accomplishment of his presidency.

Mr. Obama has used the rarefied setting of the Situation Room to give an interview about how he made the decision to send in Special Operations forces. Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. gave a speech saying the re-election slogan would be “Bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive.” The president’s campaign released a Web video showing former President Bill Clinton praising Mr. Obama’s fortitude, as it questioned whether Mitt Romney would have made the same decision.

Other presidents have boasted of their toughness, of course, notably Mr. Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, who campaigned for re-election in 2004 on a record of having deposed Saddam Hussein in Iraq, while his vice president, Dick Cheney, warned that electing John Kerry could lead to a terrorist attack. But few presidents have talked about the killing of an individual enemy in such an expansive way.

No doubt, the raid on a house in Abbottabad, Pakistan, a year ago Tuesday is a more favorable story for the president politically than the latest report showing slowing economic growth. With the general election effectively under way, it is part of an effort by both sides to define Mr. Obama’s presidency.

Senator John McCain of Arizona, Mr. Obama’s Republican opponent four years ago, lashed out at the Web video, saying the president was turning “the one decision he got right into a pathetic, political act of self-congratulation.” He added, “Shame on Barack Obama for diminishing the memory of September 11th and the killing of Osama bin Laden by turning it into a cheap political attack ad.”

Heading into a weekend in which Mr. Obama will appear with the comedian Jimmy Kimmel before a star-studded crowd at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner, Mr. Romney and his allies once again tried to turn Mr. Obama’s own celebrity against him.

A Web video released this week by American Crossroads, a Republican “super PAC,” made the case that the president’s focus on image had preoccupied him from more important issues, mocking his mingling with the stars, including his “slow-jamming the news” with Jimmy Fallon on “Late Night” this week.

“Four years ago, America elected the biggest celebrity in the world, and Americans got one cool president,” the video says amid grim images and statistics on out-of-work recent college graduates. “But after four years of a celebrity president, is your life any better?”

The Romney team amplified the message on Friday in a memorandum from the campaign manager, Matt Rhoades, arguing that Mr. Obama was counting on “his winning TV persona” for re-election. “This election will be decided by adults casting their ballots in their precincts, not teenagers texting votes from in front of their television sets,” Mr. Rhoades wrote. “That apparently frightens the president and his advisers.”

The contrast between the two campaign videos could not be starker. Set to ominous music and narrated by Mr. Clinton, the Bin Laden video describes the life-or-death stakes that confronted Mr. Obama and shows him standing silhouetted in front of an Oval Office window, shouldering the burdens of a nation.

The ad then presents Mr. Romney as if he were the one not ready to lead, saying, “Which path would Mitt Romney have taken?”

Claiming public credit for national security victories has long been a balancing act for presidents. Mr. Bush was criticized when a Republican ad showed pictures of ground zero.

Mr. Obama has been finding ways of talking about the Bin Laden raid for months. When a reporter asked in December about charges that he was appeasing the nation’s enemies, Mr. Obama offered a strikingly blunt retort. “Ask Osama bin Laden and the 22 out of 30 top Al Qaeda leaders who have been taken off the field whether I engage in appeasement,” he said. “Or whoever’s left out there about that.”

He then cited his leadership in the Bin Laden raid both in the opening passages of his State of the Union address in January and again in the closing sections, always making sure to credit the military and intelligence agencies. But the focus has intensified with the approach of the anniversary. On Thursday, he gave an interview to Brian Williams of NBC News in the Situation Room.

Tony Fratto, a deputy press secretary under Mr. Bush, said that it was “unseemly” to use the room for such a purpose. “I don’t believe it ever would have occurred to us to conduct an interview in the Situation Room,” he said, “and don’t believe we would have considered it appropriate.”

Joshua Earnest, Mr. Obama’s deputy press secretary, said the White House was responding to news media requests. “There certainly is interest around the one-year anniversary, so I’d be surprised if nobody asked about it in the context of the one-year anniversary,” he said.

Martha Joynt Kumar, a Towson University specialist in presidential communication, said it was not surprising that Mr. Obama would use the Situation Room to argue his case. “When they are running for re-election, presidents favor discussions of their successes,” she said. “The killing of Bin Laden is a natural item for President Obama to highlight.”

The anniversary has rekindled some of the longstanding debates about the methods that Mr. Bush and Mr. Obama have used to combat terrorism. Jose A. Rodriguez Jr., a former top Central Intelligence Agency official, defended the harsh interrogations of prisoners under Mr. Bush by contrasting them with Mr. Obama’s use of drones to kill suspected terrorists.

“How could it be more ethical to kill people rather than capture them?” he asked in a segment taped for Sunday’s episode of “60 Minutes” on CBS.

An official familiar with a still-incomplete investigation by the Democratic staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee said the evidence did not support Mr. Rodriguez’s assertion that the rough methods, widely condemned as torture, were necessary.

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 08:03:47 AM »
if bin laden was still alive today, all we'd hear from romney is "i know how to catch OBL, Obama isn't willing to do what it takes, etc.


So a LITTLE reminder of "I got the SOB" ain't that bad.  Too much and it becomes rudy's 911, and he's mocked for it.

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2012, 08:36:22 AM »
 ::). Fng please 180.   According to you bin laden was not even behind 911 so why are you again sucking obamas stick?   

Bro - you don't even remotely see how far you have fallen. 

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2012, 08:40:01 AM »
::). Fng please 180.   According to you bin laden was not even behind 911 so why are you again sucking obamas stick?   

Bro - you don't even remotely see how far you have fallen. 

bin laden was behing the USS Cole attack.  For that he deserved what he got.

As for 911, the FBI never chose to list that as one of his charges, even though they listed all sorts of other attacks to his credit, and they listed many other ppl wanted for 911.

I'm sure as someone who has spent zero minutes on the topic, who subscribes to everything alex jones says EXCEPT 911, you're a totally awesome authority on this matter.

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2012, 08:42:29 AM »
 :). Ghettobama is just pimping this again as it is clear we are going into recession again.

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2012, 08:47:57 AM »
:). Ghettobama is just pimping this again as it is clear we are going into recession again.

your messiah romney thinks we are in a recovery.   

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2012, 09:07:38 AM »
your messiah romney thinks we are in a recovery.   
Lie.
He's said many times recently that the economy is not improving. Your clinging to one remark be made long ago when all the numbers showed things were getting better, and have simply chose to ignore everything he has said since.

Sad 240. Sometimes I think you actually believe.your own lies, cause you seem to ignore anything that contradicts you.

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2012, 09:10:19 AM »
Lie.
He's said many times recently that the economy is not improving. Your clinging to one remark be made long ago when all the numbers showed things were getting better, and have simply chose to ignore everything he has said since.

Sad 240. Sometimes I think you actually believe.your own lies, cause you seem to ignore anything that contradicts you.

Well, yesterday, once again, he said we ARE in a recovery.   It's not as strong as he'd like - but yeah, we're in a recovery.


His bullshit optimism in the light of crappy new numbers...


WESTERVILLE, Ohio (AP) - Mitt Romney said Friday the nation's economy is recovering but blamed President Barack Obama for presiding over the "most anemic and tepid" comeback since the Great Depression.
   
It was a familiar theme for Romney, who faced the public for the first time since declaring himself the Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting earlier in the week. The former Massachusetts governor ignored news released by the Commerce Department earlier in the day that the nation's recovery may be slowing.
   
"The president is going to want to take credit for the economy getting better, and I am convinced it will get better. Every recession ends. Every recession ultimately becomes a recovery," he told students and supporters gathered at Otterbein University in central Ohio.
   
Romney added: "This just happens to be the most anemic and tepid recovery we've seen since Hoover." President Herbert Hoover was in office when the stock market crashed in October 1929 and, as the nation struggled amid an economic depression, lost re-election to Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1932.
   
The Commerce Department estimated that the economy grew at 2.2 percent over the first three months of the year. That's compared to 3 percent growth in the previous three months.
   
Romney offered a more measured tone than he had in the final weeks of the competitive phase of the GOP primary season. He did not mention Obama by name in a speech that spanned more than 40 minutes, although he condemned the president's policies that target the wealthy.
   
"I will try and unite the American people, not divide us," he said.


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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2012, 09:34:40 AM »
Shameful. 


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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2012, 09:36:33 AM »
"Sad" and "shameless" sound just about right. 

Obama to Open Situation Room to Tout bin Laden Attack
Saturday, 28 Apr 2012
By Dave Eberhart

In a first for network television, NBC News has been granted unprecedented access to the most secret and secure part of the White House, the Situation Room. In a “Rock Center with Brian Williams” exclusive airing on Wednesday, May 2 at 9 p.m. Eastern Time, President Barack Obama and his national security and military teams, relive the pivotal moments of the raid targeting Osama bin Laden.

The iconic photograph taken inside the Situation Room offered the world the first glimpse of a national security team at work during the Special Operations mission. Now, we will hear from many of the people in that photograph about what was taking place on that historic night, highlights an NBC press release.

“We want to present the definitive account of what took place leading up to and during the tension-filled hours of the mission targeting Osama bin Laden. The Navy SEALs Special Operations teams executed an ambitious, dangerous mission months in planning. Our viewers will hear details never before revealed and see the nerve center of the White House Situation Room in this special broadcast,” said Steve Capus, president of NBC News.

On “Rock Center with Brian Williams,” Williams interviews Obama in the Situation Room about one of the country’s greatest military missions, which until now, has been shrouded in secrecy.

Williams also interviews Vice President Joe Biden; Secretary of State Hillary Clinton; Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from 2007 to 2011; Tom Donilon, national security advisor; Denis McDonough, deputy national security dvisor; and John O. Brennan, assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism.

As Obama opens the secretive White House Situation Room as an interview stage to hail the one-year anniversary, the broader goal for the president is not to just to remind voters of an enormous victory on his watch, it is to maximize a political narrative that he has the courage to make tough calls that his opponent might not.

"Does anybody doubt that had the mission failed, it would have written the beginning of the end of the president's first term?" Vice President Joe Biden says in laying out Obama's foreign policy campaign message. "We know what President Obama did. We can't say for certain what Governor Romney would have done."

The strategy underscores the fact that the Obama who ordered the raid as commander in chief is now seeking a second term as president. The risk is the political blow-back that can come if he is seen as crossing a line into politicizing national security.

"Sad," said a Romney spokeswoman. "Shameless," said 2008 Obama election foe John McCain.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/White-House-situation-room/2012/04/28/id/437388

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2012, 09:56:56 AM »
The alternative.  ::)

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2012, 09:59:13 AM »
 :).  This is just absurd.   Obama is really opathetic.

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2012, 10:03:29 AM »
:).  This is just absurd.   Obama is really opathetic.

Just think.  He never would have been elected of Bush/Cheney had not failed so miserably.  :-[

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2012, 03:08:46 PM »
if bin laden was still alive today, all we'd hear from romney is "i know how to catch OBL, Obama isn't willing to do what it takes, etc.


So a LITTLE reminder of "I got the SOB" ain't that bad.  Too much and it becomes rudy's 911, and he's mocked for it.

Yeah, that's the topic Romney would've keyed on.   There isn't a rolleyes smiley big enough for that absurd comment.  "All we'd hear"..... ::) ::)

It's not even a hot button topic.   This was the first shot the current admin's taken against Romney, and it's a miserable one.

I saw Paul Begala on Maher for a little on Maher last night, and he sounded like a fucking child:  "Obama was too busy killing Bin Laden and saving GM".......
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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2012, 03:43:58 PM »
 :). That is all they have. Sound bites and bumper stickers that get more absurd by the day.

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2012, 04:48:46 PM »
The problem is not that he "trumpets" killing OBL. He can do that.

The problem is stating that Romney wouldn't have issued the order to kill him. That shows a total disconnect with reality. How does anyone know that Romney wouldn't have done the same thing?

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2012, 08:30:34 AM »
Let Obama trumpet it. BIG DEAL!

Remember that about three months after Bin Laden got shot, Obama's approval ratings were in the 30s.

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2012, 08:54:28 AM »
What I find ironic is that they try and potray the republicans as war-mongers and that all Romney wants to do is go to war with Iran, and that they have no respect for foreign nations, but then turn around and say that these same war-mongers would care to much about Pakistan to use the military and take out Osama bin Laden.

Brutal logic.

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2012, 10:08:31 AM »
Let Obama trumpet it. BIG DEAL!

Remember that about three months after Bin Laden got shot, Obama's approval ratings were in the 30s.

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2012, 11:47:07 AM »
The problem is not that he "trumpets" killing OBL. He can do that.

The problem is stating that Romney wouldn't have issued the order to kill him. That shows a total disconnect with reality. How does anyone know that Romney wouldn't have done the same thing?

He would be pretty dumb if he didnt thats for sure

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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2012, 12:40:24 PM »
romeny criticized obama for saying he would go INTO PAKISTAN to get bin laden.  2007.

so to believe romney would have issued the GO order on the mission, we'd have to believe mitt would flip flop on something.


That's not something I'm ready to accept.


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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2012, 03:48:50 PM »
Let Obama trumpet it. BIG DEAL!

Remember that about three months after Bin Laden got shot, Obama's approval ratings were in the 30s.

they we at 39% for three days.

he's at 48% today.


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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2012, 03:57:55 PM »
they we at 39% for three days.

he's at 48% today.



As if that's good for an incumbent president. Three months after you capped the most notorious terrorist on the planet, your approval rating is in the THIRTIES?

A year ago, the libs were crowing that the election was a lock with Bin Laden's death. And that the GOP had the "worst field in the history of the Republican party".

Now, the survivor of that field is DEAD EVEN with Mr. Hope-and-Change, one year after Osama got GOT.

And, as the saying goes in football (when it comes to a wide receiver vs. a cornerback) If he's even; he's LEAVIN'!! For the last few decades or so of elections, involving an incumbent, nearly all the undecideds go against the incumbent.

Dick Morris pointed that out, particularly with the last 8 elections. Except for "W", the incumbent (even if he won re-election) lost ALL of the undecided voters.


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Re: Obama Trumpets Killing of Bin Laden, and Critics Pounce
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2012, 03:59:56 PM »
As if that's good for an incumbent president. Three months after you capped the most notorious terrorist on the planet, your approval rating is in the THIRTIES?

the economy was bottomed out, gas prices were insanely high.  that was what, august 2011?

World gamblers at intrade.com have romney at a 37.1% chance of winning.