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« on: May 05, 2012, 02:00:02 PM »
We have a rising force, seemingly without regard for individual rights, being fed in abundance by information-gathering tactics that have never before been available, being bolstered by freedom-loss tactics that were thought to be guaranteed against; and upon close examination, this force takes shape as a mindless, destructive, and lethal money vacuum.

What do we do with this demonic thing?

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Re: WTF
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2012, 02:58:37 PM »
Dont forget the NSA's newfound storage facility for everything anyone does EVER over an electronic device.

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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 03:03:07 PM »
666 - Beast - Iesous shat prophecies left and right - Acid flash backs - Homosexual urges - Virgin Whore Mother - Devil Worship - Alex Winter Underwear Long Jones - Missionary = Kosher - DoggyStyle = Sexual deviant - Rapture - Fema camps - RFID Implants - Savages Extermination - White Power - Zionist Joooze Run Shit - Suicide Bomber = 72 Virgins + Lakes of Honey Milk Wine - Protein Farts - Masons - Trilateral Commission - Think Tank - Real Tanks - PTSD


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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 03:05:16 PM »
Dont forget the NSA's newfound storage facility for everything anyone does EVER over an electronic device.

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Re: WTF
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 03:11:19 PM »
Dont forget the NSA's newfound storage facility for everything anyone does EVER over an electronic device.

You read Wired too?   :D

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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 03:20:18 PM »
You read Wired too?   :D
Maybe........

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Re: WTF
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 04:18:02 PM »

These Are The Prices AT&T, Verizon and Sprint Charge For Cellphone Wiretaps

Andy Greenberg, Forbes Staff
Covering the worlds of data security, privacy and hacker culture.SECURITY

4/03/2012 @ 3:01PM |58,660 views



If Americans aren’t disturbed by phone carriers’ practices of handing over cell phone users’ personal data to law enforcement en masse–in many cases without a warrant–we might at least be interested to learn just how much that service is costing us in tax dollars: often hundreds or thousands per individual snooped.

Earlier this week the American Civil Liberties Union revealed a trove of documents it had obtained through Freedom of Information Requests to more than 200 police departments around the country. They show a pattern of police tracking cell phone locations and gathering other data like call logs without warrants, using devices that impersonate cell towers to intercept cellular signals, and encouraging officers to refrain from speaking about cell-tracking technology to the public, all detailed in a New York Times story. But at least one document also details the day-to-day business of telecoms’ handing over of data to law enforcement, including a breakdown of every major carrier’s fees for every sort of data request from targeted wiretaps to so-called “tower dumps” that provide information on every user of certain cell tower. The guide, as provided by the Tucson, Arizona police department to the ACLU, is dated July 2009, and the fees it lists may be somewhat outdated. But representatives I reached by email at Verizon and AT&T both declined to detail any changes to the numbers.

Here are a few of the highlights from the fee data.
  • Wiretaps cost hundreds of dollars per target every month, generally paid at daily or monthly rates. To wiretap a customer’s phone, T-Mobile charges law enforcement a flat fee of $500 per target. Sprint’s wireless carrier Sprint Nextel requires police pay $400 per “market area” and per “technology” as well as a $10 per day fee, capped at $2,000. AT&T charges a $325 activation fee, plus $5 per day for data and $10 for audio. Verizon charges a $50 administrative fee plus $700 per month, per target.
  • Data requests for voicemail or text messages cost extra. AT&T demands $150 for access to a target’s voicemail, while Verizon charges $50 for access to text messages. Sprint offers the most detailed breakdown of fees for various kinds of data on a phone, asking $120 for pictures or video, $60 for email, $60 for voice mail and $30 for text messages.
  • All four telecom firms also offer so-called “tower dumps” that allow police to see the numbers of every user accessing a certain cell tower over a certain time at an hourly rate. AT&T charges $75 per tower per hour, with a minimum of two hours. Verizon charges between $30 and $60 per hour for each cell tower. T-Mobile demands $150 per cell tower per hour, and Sprint charges $50 per tower, seemingly without an hourly rate.
  • For location data, the carrier firms offer automated tools that let police track suspects in real time. Sprint charges $30 per month per target to use its L-Site program for location tracking. AT&T’s E911 tool costs $100 to activate and then $25 a day. T-Mobile charges a much pricier $100 per day.

In an emailed statement to me, a Verizon spokesperson told me that the company doesn’t charge police in “emergency cases, nor do we charge law enforcement for historical location information in non-emergency cases.” He added that the company doesn’t “make a profit from any of the data requests from law enforcement.” A Sprint spokesperson sent me a statement saying that the company similarly doesn’t charge law enforcement for data requests in “exigent circumstances.”

“Fees are charged to law enforcement in other circumstances such as court ordered requests and it’s important to note that any fee charged is for recovery of cost required to support these law enforcement requests 24/7,” she writes.

T-Mobile declined to comment, and an AT&T spokesperson referred me to the company’s privacy policy, pointing out a specific line that reads, “We do not sell your personal information to anyone for any purpose.  Period.”
That claim is “simply misleading,” says Catherine Crump, an attorney with the ACLU who coordinated the group’s FOIA project. “That’s a curious definition of ‘sell,’ given that they seem to be charging money for people’s information on a regular basis and handing it over to law enforcement agencies around the country.”
I’ve embedded the Tucson police department document below. The ACLU has created a summary of the very large collection of data it’s obtained here, and the full collection can be found here by clicking on the document graphic below to download this 56 page .pdf document.



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Re: WTF
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 12:32:54 PM »
The loss of rights we are experiencing, largely privacy-based, can be linked to perhaps the biggest scam the world has ever seen.

Scam, because what are purported to be security concerns trumping privacy concerns, are actually financial wet dreams that would otherwise be thoroughly and rightfully rejected.

In lockstep with 'globalism', we are witnessing rapid development of a certain class of person, that despite being very few in number, would be, and are making every attempt to be, the keeper of all information that would become consequential.

This particular movement has the potential to create a more widespread impact than all other sociological, cultural, economic and legal developments in our history.  It is that significant.  

The possibilities for unfair advantage are effectively endless within this very certain class, as the movement causes, among other things, a 'wealth vacuum' of such tremendous force that its grip will not allow a just society to stand anywhere on our planet.

Please tell me if there is a greater method to be conceived of, that would allow for more effective control of all else on a global scale, than to be part of an otherwise miniscule group that becomes the processor of all consequential information.