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« on: May 06, 2012, 03:14:45 PM »

Facts are:

Obama’s birth certificate says he was born in Honolulu

Hawaii didn’t register out-of-state births in 1961

Honolulu newspapers listed Obama’s birth in a section of the newspaper that carried information from the health department

Obama’s birth certificate shows he was born in a hospital and delivered by a doctor

The Hawaii Department of health has repeatedly affirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii and that his birth certificate is legitimate

Contemporary written accounts found in State Department files mention him being born in Hawaii

Obama’s African relatives say he was born in Hawaii and not in Kenya (Sayid Obama and Sarah Obama).

Contemporary statistical reports from the INS show that no American citizen flew from Kenya to the USA that entire year.


Yet.....  there are those who refuse to face facts. 

Weird isn't it?
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2012, 06:32:49 AM »

Well that sheriff guy dont seem to think so...
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 07:03:56 AM »


·         That Obama was not born in Hawaii, as he claims, but was actually born in Kenya, his father’s homeland.
·         That Obama’s mother was in Kenya in the late stages of her pregnancy and airlines at the time would not let her fly back to Hawaii at such an advanced time of pregnancy.
·         That Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, a half brother, and a half sister all say Obama was born in Kenya.  In October, 2008, Berg announced that he had a recording of the grandmother talking about the birth and that she was in the birth room when it took place.
·         That Obama was born on August 4, 1961 but his birth was not registered in Hawaii until August 8, 1961 and that the registration and a Honolulu newspaper announcement of the birth were fabricated.
·         That there is not agreement in Obama’s family about what hospital in which he was allegedly born in Hawaii.
·         That according to Wayne Madison, a journalist with Online Journal, a GOP research team sent to Mombosa, Kenya, found a certificate registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. at a maternity hospital indicating his birth to a Kenyan father and a U.S. mother.
·         That if he was born in Kenya, he cannot be a U.S. citizen because the law stated that his mother would have had to have lived 10-years in the United States, 5 of which were after the age of 14.  Since she was 18 at the time of Obama’s birth, she did not meet the residency requirements for passing U.S. citizenship to Obama.
·         That when Obama’s mother married an Indonesian man and took Obama to Indonesia when he was 6-years old, he would have lost his U.S. citizenship and become Indonesian.  Indonesia at the time did not recognize dual citizenship.
·          That when Obama was registered to attend school in Indonesia, the registration form listed him as “Barry Soetoro” (his stepfather’s last name), listed him as Indonesian, and listed is faith as Islam.
·         That according to the law at the time, Obama’s mother would have lost her U.S. citizenship by marrying an Indonesian and living in Indonesia.  Four years later she returned to Hawaii and divorced her Indonesian husband.  Berg said that she could have regained her U.S. citizenship by taking an oath of allegiance to the United States but that there is no record that she did.  Therefore, Obama would not have been able to regain his own citizenship until the age of 18 and himself take an oath of allegiance to the U.S.  Berg said there is no record of that ever happening.  Berg concludes that not only may Obama not be eligible to be president, but that he may be an illegal alien.
·         That Obama traveled to Pakistan at the age of 20 and traveled using an Indonesian passport.  Had he regained his U.S. citizenship, according to Berg, he would have traveled using a U.S. passport.
·         In response to questions about his birth, Obama posted a birth certificate on his campaign website, but Berg contends that it is a forgery and that forensic experts have determined that it is a altered version of the birth certificate of Obama’s half sister, Maya Kasandra Soetoro, who was born in Indonesia but whose birth record was also forged to make it appear that she was born in Hawaii.
·         That when Obama registered for the Illinois Bar he lied and said “none” when asked about any former names

Not saying Osama was born here or there-- its irrelevant either way to me. But to say birthers got spanked is nonsense. The media has treated this like another "move along, nothing to see here" situation about Obama. History shows that every time the media has done this to protect Osama in the past, there has been something to hide.
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 07:08:39 AM »

GW, research it more, the Birther movement is pure comedy.  Birthers get attention, their arguments get attention, the only reason it doesn't last is because as listed above , they are ridiculous arguments quickly debumked and based on bull shit, like Joe and band of idiot followers.
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2012, 08:11:53 PM »

GW, research it more, the Birther movement is pure comedy.  Birthers get attention, their arguments get attention, the only reason it doesn't last is because as listed above , they are ridiculous arguments quickly debumked and based on bull shit, like Joe and band of idiot followers.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/hawaii-five-o-sheriff-joe-sends-detectives-to-honolulu

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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2012, 02:29:27 AM »

Facts are:

Obama’s birth certificate says he was born in Honolulu

Hawaii didn’t register out-of-state births in 1961

Honolulu newspapers listed Obama’s birth in a section of the newspaper that carried information from the health department

Obama’s birth certificate shows he was born in a hospital and delivered by a doctor

The Hawaii Department of health has repeatedly affirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii and that his birth certificate is legitimate

Contemporary written accounts found in State Department files mention him being born in Hawaii

Obama’s African relatives say he was born in Hawaii and not in Kenya (Sayid Obama and Sarah Obama).

Contemporary statistical reports from the INS show that no American citizen flew from Kenya to the USA that entire year.


Yet.....  there are those who refuse to face facts.  

Weird isn't it?


Spanked? His own wife has admitted he was born in Kenya. He even admitted to his own literally agent that he was born in Kenya.....

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=10093
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 11:44:20 AM »

Spanked? His own wife has admitted he was born in Kenya. He even admitted to his own literally agent that he was born in Kenya.....

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=10093

yeah............


so basically hearsay wins over legal documentation and over physical evidence?


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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2012, 12:30:17 PM »

yeah............


so basically hearsay wins over legal documentation and over physical evidence?


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By legal documentation I'm sure you mean his birth certificate which could of been a forge. It's not in your best interest to question the government or the Barry Soetoro administration is it

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjzAH2DhydA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjzAH2DhydA</a>
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 12:36:00 PM »

By legal documentation I'm sure you mean his birth certificate which could of been a forge. It's not in your best interest to question the government or the Barry Soetoro administration is it

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjzAH2DhydA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjzAH2DhydA</a>

Yeah verified legal documents, the same documents that were looked at by unverified "experts" and said to be fakes while actual experts said the docs were legit.  before you run off and believe the opposition simply because they are the opposition to Obama you might want to do some checking/research  first.

here's a good list of question to start with corresponding to Sherrif Joe and CCP:

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Just some UNANSWERED questions:   Grin

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
   

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
   
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
   
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
   
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
   
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?

Here's more:

http://www.usatoday.com/video/computer-expert-examines-arpaio-birther-documents/1484305946001

"When I first saw it it was very convincing until we did our test and saw that, wait a minute, our scanner does the same thing."

from Ken Colburn founder and CEO of Data Doctors Computer Services & Data Forensics Labs had his technical staff look at the White House birth certificate PDF.


Sorry guys, the CCP is using your hate and ignorance about things like this to sell their book.  that's the conspiracy here.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2012, 12:38:58 PM »

And the circus continues with Sherrif Joe misusing tax payer money to investigate in Hawaii and report a couple of weeks about that they have some incredible findings................ .    we are all waiting, and so are they with their Pina Coladas on the beach.
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2012, 06:23:48 PM »

I personally downloaded the PDF file within hours from when it was made public on the White House site and still have it. When you open this file with Illustrator you can see layers. The background can be turned off, signatures are on their own layers etc. I have scanned thousands of documents with a scanner and they always come into the computer as a flat image. From there you can save them as a JPEG, PDF etc. There will not be any layers.

Now the official explanation for this is that OCR software was used. The problem is this document does not pass the OCR test. You cannot search for words in the document as you would an OCR document. This is a fraudulent document and I could have produced a better counterfeit than the graphic document they provided.

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2012, 06:35:19 PM »

Facts are:

Obama’s birth certificate says he was born in Honolulu - A fake document can say he was born on Mars. Does not prove anything.

Hawaii didn’t register out-of-state births in 1961 What does this prove regarding the validity of Obama's certificate?

Honolulu newspapers listed Obama’s birth in a section of the newspaper that carried information from the health department This could be counterfeit. Entirely possible if the certificate is fake.

Obama’s birth certificate shows he was born in a hospital and delivered by a doctor A fake document can also say this. This does not prove anything.

The Hawaii Department of health has repeatedly affirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii and that his birth certificate is legitimate HAHA. And you trust your whore officials??

Contemporary written accounts found in State Department files mention him being born in Hawaii  Where?? Show the examples.

Obama’s African relatives say he was born in Hawaii and not in Kenya (Sayid Obama and Sarah Obama). His grandmother said he was born in Kenya.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OirvxsUsxb0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OirvxsUsxb0</a>

Contemporary statistical reports from the INS show that no American citizen flew from Kenya to the USA that entire year. What does that prove? If he was born in Kenya, how do you know he flew to USA in that year?


Yet.....  there are those who refuse to face facts.  

Weird isn't it?

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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2012, 09:26:39 AM »

Not really Quad. 

Belief is more powerful than fact.  Even smart, accomplished people believe in CT's in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.  Its human nature. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2012, 04:16:28 PM »

Not really Quad. 

Belief is more powerful than fact.  Even smart, accomplished people believe in CT's in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.  Its human nature. 


couple questions here, don't know anything about this but heard a couple things you may be able to verify or refute.



did obama not supply a 'certificate of citizenship' when entering the presidential race?  are these not supplied only to immigrants?

did he not state for years that 'no birth certificate exists'??  then he shows one after stating this.

i've got no horse in this race, just wondering the validity of these two things i had heard.

thanx,
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2012, 04:33:56 PM »


couple questions here, don't know anything about this but heard a couple things you may be able to verify or refute.

did obama not supply a 'certificate of citizenship' when entering the presidential race?  are these not supplied only to immigrants?

did he not state for years that 'no birth certificate exists'??  then he shows one after stating this.

i've got no horse in this race, just wondering the validity of these two things i had heard.

thanx,

Those claims don't sound too familiar to me.  I don't recall ever hearing them.  Either they are true, partly true, party false, fully false, etc.

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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2012, 06:57:47 PM »

Those claims don't sound too familiar to me.  I don't recall ever hearing them.  Either they are true, partly true, party false, fully false, etc.



cool thanx,

i live in canada, so we may hear b.s. up here too
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