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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2012, 09:07:09 AM »
were they wrong to nominate a man (Romney) who didn't reflect their core beliefs - at alll?

Probably.  But that's in the past now.  All they can do at this point is work to convince themselves that a RINO is okay, as long as he's not named Berry [sic] Hussein.

Correct.   We have no illusions about Romney and know full well what is going on. 

Its A B O dont you get it? 

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2012, 09:07:59 AM »
Correct.   We have no illusions about Romney and know full well what is going on. 

Its A B O dont you get it? 

I understand.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #77 on: June 11, 2012, 09:18:12 AM »
The stimulus was backed by the repub so its the same all the way around


Republicans NEVER supported that POS legislation.
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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #78 on: June 11, 2012, 09:31:58 AM »
Republicans NEVER supported that POS legislation.

Leftist illiterates like to re-invent history.   

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #79 on: June 11, 2012, 09:34:12 AM »
Republicans NEVER supported that POS legislation.

Just other Pos Legislation

Leftist illiterates like to re-invent history.   

So i guess youre a leftist illiterate...because god damn you like to re-invent history

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #80 on: June 11, 2012, 09:36:11 AM »
Just other Pos Legislation

So i guess youre a leftist illiterate...because god damn you like to re-invent history

Hey - you got the inside scoop right? 

Do i have make plans for when obama loses?  I mean are the peeps going to riot and burn down the hood? 

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #81 on: June 11, 2012, 09:38:54 AM »
Hey - you got the inside scoop right? 

Do i have make plans for when obama loses?  I mean are the peeps going to riot and burn down the hood? 

Who said i got an inside scoop...
And i have no idea on what plans you have re Obama.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #82 on: June 11, 2012, 10:18:41 AM »
Hey - you got the inside scoop right? 

Do i have make plans for when obama loses?  I mean are the peeps going to riot and burn down the hood? 

You mean like those docs that walked off their jobs and burned cities?

Another one of your predictions that failed to come through.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #83 on: June 11, 2012, 10:19:02 AM »
State results dim Dems' hopes for House takeover
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 6/11/12 | Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau

 




California voters threw a wrench Tuesday into fellow Californian Nancy Pelosi's plans.

The former House speaker from San Francisco, once third in line for the presidency and architect of the key legislation of President Obama's first term, is making a longshot bid to regain House control this year.

The minority leader was counting on California, home to an increasing number of Democratic Party voters and where new legislative district maps forced four veteran GOP lawmakers into retirement, to deliver half a dozen of the net gain of 25 seats she needs.

After the results of last week's primary election in the state, Democrats now hope to pick up four or five seats, said Jennifer Crider, deputy executive director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

Republicans think the state will end up delivering next to nothing for Democrats.

"I think it comes out to virtually a wash in California," said Brock McCleary, deputy political director of the National Republican Congressional Committee, which oversees House races.

Major disappointment

By any measure, the new "top two" primary, low voter turnout and redrawn districts produced disappointment for Democrats on Tuesday.


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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #84 on: June 11, 2012, 10:19:50 AM »
You mean like those docs that walked off their jobs and burned cities?

Another one of your predictions that failed to come through.

Docs are leaving practice due to obamacare and 60% or better think it will make practice of medicine worse. 

   


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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #85 on: June 11, 2012, 10:27:26 AM »
Just other Pos Legislation

So i guess youre a leftist illiterate...because god damn you like to re-invent history

Not near as big POS legislation as that one was.
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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #86 on: June 11, 2012, 11:50:43 AM »
Docs are leaving practice due to obamacare and 60% or better think it will make practice of medicine worse. 

   



prove it out... show me a large enough sample size of MD's leaving the field because of Obama care..

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #87 on: June 11, 2012, 03:15:54 PM »
Docs are leaving practice due to obamacare and 60% or better think it will make practice of medicine worse. 

   



Really?  And they are rioting in the streets and torching cities like you claim?

Or is this the LaLa Land delusions creeping out of your head again?

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #88 on: June 11, 2012, 03:18:48 PM »
Human Events Blog

Doctors hate ObamaCare even more than you do

By:John Hayward
3/15/2012 09:49 AM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2859519/posts



Heath care is an expensive product, with high demand chasing limited supply.  There are only so many doctors, and training new ones requires a long education at great personal expense.  Meanwhile, advances in medicine are steadily prolonging life and improving its quality.
 
It follows that if we want to decrease the cost of health care (or, to use the currently popular political vernacular, “improve access”) we need more doctors.  Conversely, reducing the supply of doctors would make medical care more expensive, and reduce its quality.  If government controls are then applied to skyrocketing costs, shortages and rationing would be the inevitable result.
 
What will ObamaCare do to the supply of doctors?  For the answer, we turn to a Heritage Foundation report on a new survey of the medical profession, which confirms the results of a previous survey from 2010.  Doctors hate ObamaCare even more than the general public does, with 60 percent of respondents saying it will “have a negative impact on overall patient care,” but that’s not the worst of it:
 
The Doctors Company, which is the largest insurer of physician and surgeon medical liability in the nation, received more than 5,000 surveys, including all specialties and every region in the country. The results weren’t good for the President’s signature piece of legislation.
 
Not only do doctors believe that Obamacare will not improve the health care system, they also anticipate that it will worsen the current condition. According to the survey, nine out of 10 physicians are unwilling to recommend health care as a profession to a family member, and one primary care physician even commented, “I would not recommend becoming an M.D. to anyone.”
 
Obamacare doesn’t just discourage entrance into the medical profession; it encourages those who are already practicing to leave it. The survey states that “health care reform is motivating doctors to change their retirement timeline.” In fact, 43 percent of respondents said they are considering retiring within the next five years as a result of the law. A surgeon from Michigan wrote that under Obamacare, “We will be moving further away from humanity-based health care and more towards the patient as a commodity. This was not the way my father practiced—nor will I. Winding down to retire early.”
 
(Emphases mine.)  This comes as the United States teeters “on the brink of a severe physician shortage,” with the American Association of Medical Colleges estimating that we’ll need 91,500 more doctors by 2020 to meet demand.
 
This is the sort of disastrous “side effect” that probably wasn’t included in the Congressional Budget Office’s already horrific estimate of ObamaCare’s exploding costs.  It’s also damage that would not be easy to reverse.  If ObamaCare is not repealed soon, the loss of doctors will ripple forward for years… and the necessity of tight “death panel” rationing of precious doctor time will be used as a club by Democrats to not only keep ObamaCare, but actually make it worse.  Wait until the doctors of 2014 get a load of the tidal wave pouring into their offices to collect their mandated benefits… and look behind them to see an increasingly large army of stern bureaucrats dictating the fast-food practices necessary to keep the human cattle moving through those exam rooms.
 
Let’s hear Health and Human Cattle Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius tell us some more about that private-sector “death spiral” ObamaCare was supposed to fix!

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #89 on: June 11, 2012, 06:51:16 PM »
Generic Congressional Ballot: Republicans 45%, Democrats 39%
Rasmussen Reports ^ | June 11, 2012 | Rasmussen
Posted on June 11, 2012 5:03:55 PM EDT by SMGFan

Republicans lead Democrats by six points on the Generic Congressional Ballot for the week ending Sunday, June 10.

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Landslide coming you communist Obama drones

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #90 on: June 12, 2012, 02:41:07 AM »
Republicans NEVER supported that POS legislation.

You need to start using the memory part of your brain kid

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #91 on: June 12, 2012, 04:46:21 AM »
Still no link to the torching of cities....

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #92 on: June 12, 2012, 04:49:08 AM »
Still no link to the torching of cities....

Lol, so you agree I was right on ObamaCare?    Thanks.   

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #93 on: June 12, 2012, 05:58:50 AM »
nate silver should read getbig so he could throw all his statistics out the window and roll with EMOTION.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #94 on: June 12, 2012, 06:38:03 AM »
and not one thing in that article said in real numbers.. doctors are leaving. It said they are "considering retiring in the next 5 years"... that was the strongest language to support your claim that " doctors are leaving the practice? Pretty weak... pretty weak indeed...

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Forbes has published another slam against health reform. This one is written by Sally Pipes, president, CEO, and Taube Fellow in Health Care Studies at the Pacific Research Institute. She is the author of a forthcoming book, The Pipes Plan: The Top Ten Ways to Dismantle and Replace Obamacare, put out by the conservative publishing juggernaut, Regnery. This follows Pipes’ previous volume, The Truth About Obamacare. We haven’t read this one; we presume the truth isn’t good.

Pipes fires standard broadsides against health reform, including the already-rebutted claim that because of the Affordable Care Act, “American families in the non-group market will see their premiums rise $2,100.” She also presents a more novel, in some ways more disturbing argument, when she claims that that America’s doctors oppose health reform:

Few people know more about our healthcare system than doctors working on the frontlines. Policymakers should pay heed to their indictment of Obamacare and revisit the disastrous law.
Pipes’ is probably right to say that “if physicians aren’t on board with Obamacare, it won’t work.” The rest of her argument is wrong.

To prove her point, Pipes cites a survey by the Deloitte Center for Health Solutions. This survey highlights physicians’ anxieties regarding both health reform and the broader trends within the health care system. It provides some intriguing results. Although Pipes implies otherwise, respondents actually split down the middle in their reactions to the new law. Forty-four percent believe that the Act is “a good start.” Forty-four percent believe that “it is a step in the wrong direction.” These responses strikingly differed across generational lines. Fifty-nine percent of physician-respondents between the ages of 50 and 59 believe that the Act is “a step in the wrong direction.” Only 36 percent of their counterparts between the ages of 25 and 39 gave the same response.

It’s hard to know what to make of these findings. According to Deloitte’s supporting materials, of the 16,537 physicians the firm contacted, 501 completed the survey. That’s a response rate of barely 3 percent. It’s not clear whom this tiny sample really represents. 

A better way to gauge these issues is to examine how physicians and the organizations which represent them actually behaved during last year’s health reform. One wouldn’t know from Pipes’ article that the American Medical Association, the American College of Physicians, the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American College of Surgeons, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, the American Society of Anesthesiologists, the American Osteopathic Association, the American Psychiatric Association, and the American College of Cardiology all endorsed last year’s health reform. These groups represent hundreds of thousands of physicians across a wide range of medical sub-specialties.

A key reason for these endorsements was the widespread recognition that our current health care system works poorly from the perspective of both physicians and patients – and the understanding that the new law was an important step in building a more effective health care system.

In the nearly two years since the Act was passed, we have heard many stories from colleagues around the country who belong to Doctors for America, an independent organization with which we are both affiliated. These physician are in private practice and academia, primary care and specialties, and in rural and urban areas. They are all seeing the impact of health care reform.

Heidi Sinclair, an internal medicine hospital specialist in Louisiana, noted that her hospital set up a discharge clinic to reduce avoidable hospital readmissions in anticipation of the law's delivery system reform pilots.  Maggie Kozel, a pediatrician and teacher in Rhode Island, has seen more young adults - including her own children - who have now been able to get health insurance through their parent's insurance plans.  Chris Lillis, an internal medicine physician in Virginia reported that his practice has received an increase in reimbursement thanks to the law’s primary care support provisions.

Particularly touching was a message we received from Ann Drum, a physician in Alabama, who has devoted her career to caring for the underserved.  Dr. Drum suffers from a chronic illness herself, and, because of the regular and expensive intravenous therapy required for her disease, she was in danger of losing her health insurance as she approached her lifetime cap on coverage.  The Affordable Care Act's provisions which ban lifetime caps mean that she and her patients need no longer live in fear of losing their health insurance because they are too sick.

There are many other stories too: A Tennessee specialist noted that his hospital has embarked on a major reorganization to focus on maximizing quality of care and reducing costs – all in anticipation of the law’s accountable care organization pilot programs. A Florida physician who owns a small private practice expressed relief that their state is finally getting grant support through the new public health prevention fund, to improve the screening and treatment of conditions such as hypertension. A North Carolina intensive care unit physician, who has seen heartbreaking cases of his patients denied care by insurers, told us of his sense of victory when he discovered the law provided his patients much needed protection.

Our personal correspondence conveys but a few of the many ways that physicians are starting to see the beneficial impact of the Affordable Care Act in their working lives. 

That’s not to say physician enthusiasm for reform is universal -- far from it. Different specialties have different financial interests at stake.  Like everyone else, physicians also hold diverse ideological views regarding the proper role of government and private enterprise in the health care system.

Physicians are also similar to the general public in another way: While physicians are extremely knowledgeable about the health care systems in which they work, they’re not particularly knowledgeable about health care reform. Having spoken to thousands of physicians about health reform, we can attest that this is the case across regions, ages and ethnicities, and specialties. An important reason for this uncertainty has been the ineffectiveness of public education efforts to explain what the Affordable Care Act really does.

This is also an anxious time for physicians, for patients, and for others with strong stakes in American health care. Physicians are under new pressures to join larger care organizations and to adopt new technologies such as electronic health records. Physicians are unsure how their reimbursements will be impacted in the coming years. Health reform provides a plausible target for these anxieties, even though the law often has little to do with the underlying causes of physicians’ worries. Additionally, when physicians see persistent or new problems (e.g. rising insurance premiums in the last year or continued political shenanigans over Medicare’s Sustainable Growth Rate “doctor fix”), many blame Obamacare.  Ironically, problems like these are often precisely the difficulties that the law seeks to address.

Will doctors support health reform? We suspect that the ultimate answer to this question won’t come from the thrust-and-parry of partisan debate. Doctors will support the new law to the extent that it becomes visible in their everyday lives, and make these lives better.

We believe that physicians will embrace the Affordable Care Act because the new law helps to address many critical issues that have long concerned physicians and patients—abuses and market failures in the provisions of health coverage, rising numbers of uninsured patients, variable quality, poor coordination of care, the erosion of primary care, and the lack of focus on prevention and public health.  As the law’s main provisions kick in, physicians will see that it is, indeed, a big step in the right direction. We are sure that the new law will attract serious criticism. Real on-the-ground progress will provide the best rebuttal.


Harold Pollack is the Helen Ross Professor at the School of Social Service Administration at the University of Chicago and advisor to Doctors for America. Vivek Murthy is an attending physician at the Brigham and Women's Hospital and Harvard Medical School, as well as president and co-founder of Doctors for America.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #95 on: June 12, 2012, 08:05:02 AM »
Lol, so you agree I was right on ObamaCare?    Thanks.   

That is caused docs to walk off their jobs, riot in the streets and burn cities?

No, I don't agree.  And since it hasn't happened, I see the docs themselves don't agree with you either.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #96 on: June 12, 2012, 09:27:54 AM »
That is caused docs to walk off their jobs, riot in the streets and burn cities?

No, I don't agree.  And since it hasn't happened, I see the docs themselves don't agree with you either.

yeah, most of SW FL has been ablaze since the doctors picked up pitchforks and blowtorches as predicted.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #98 on: June 12, 2012, 10:08:40 AM »
Where's the link to city burnings?

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #99 on: June 12, 2012, 10:11:33 AM »
Where's the link to city burnings?


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