Anavar...

[Marlo Stanfield]

Yes i realize that Anavar has probably been discussed here a bunch , figured i'd start a new thread, and people post their latest experiences

1)Have you used it?

2)what dosage? and what scheme ?(i.e. before workout? in the AM as soon as u wake u? split into AM and PM etc)

3) whats results did you see?

4) what other compunds where you running? or how do you know your results were truly because of anavar?

5) whats your verdict on this steroid? worth the extra money ? is it truly " a milder tren" ?

[Overload]

Yes i realize that Anavar has probably been discussed here a bunch , figured i'd start a new thread, and people post their latest experiences

1)Have you used it?

2)what dosage? and what scheme ?(i.e. before workout? in the AM as soon as u wake u? split into AM and PM etc)

3) whats results did you see?

4) what other compunds where you running? or how do you know your results were truly because of anavar?

5) whats your verdict on this steroid? worth the extra money ? is it truly " a milder tren" ?

1) I've used it many times. It was actually the very first steroid i used. I'm on 60mg of it right now with a ton of other AAS.

2) I've ran it from 30mg up to 100mg. I have taken it all at once before a workout or split evenly throughout the day in 2-3 doses. I found splitting doses is better.

3) When i ran it alone i noticed very little water retention. I put on a good 10 pounds on 40mg for 8 weeks, but lost most of it a few weeks after i came off. I did make some very good strength gains on it and i felt great. No lethargy or sides at all.

4) I've used it with about every compound there is. I think it stacks great with anything. The only time i knew my results were purely from Var was when i ran it alone and when i ran it with a low dose of Primo only. I actually had some incredible results off 600mg Primo and 50mg Var back when i competed in bodybuilding. Very lean gains with zero sides.

5) I think it's one of the best orals on the market if it is real. I'd bet the majority of UGL Var is fake or something else like Dbol. I can't really compare it to Tren, but it's powerful enough to give you high quality gains at doses of 60mg and up. I actually like it more than Dbol and Tbol, but Tren is a different animal all together, not many compounds compare to Tren IMO. The only compound that gives me better strength gains without the bloat is Halo, but that stuff makes me very irritable and gives me headaches.

My only issue with it is price and it's probably one of the most faked compounds on the market.

Overall i rate it a solid 8 out of 10. Some people think it's weak, but it was a staple of mine back when i competed in power lifting and needed to stay near a certain weight when Halo wasn't an option.

[OTHstrong]

That would be the worst, thinking you are doing anavar and turns out to be d-bol, especially leading up to a show. With a low carb, low sodium diet and other good compounds like tren, it would be hard to know unless you have a lot of experience using it.

[Marlo Stanfield]

That would be the worst, thinking you are doing anavar and turns out to be d-bol, especially leading up to a show. With a low carb, low sodium diet and other good compounds like tren, it would be hard to know unless you have a lot of experience using it.

not to mention that you thinks your taking something thats relatively mild on your liver, and then turn out to be you were taking dbol all the time..

[jimijimi]

I knew a guy with Aids who was getting pharmaceutical Var
was 60 tab @ 10mg and used 20 to 30mg a day thats all you needed
with pharma Var like that but cost alot so now i have UG Var and just getting back in the gym, had stopped due to major back surgery of 6hrs on the table and i laid off the gym for 8 months and put on alot of BF, now in the last 2 or 3 Wks i dropped 15lbs and have another 15 to go so im wondering if i shoud add Var in my Test & Deca cycle
and would it help in getting rid of more BF ? If anyone could give some info. Oh im eatting clean and will Var help ?

[OTHstrong]

I knew a guy with Aids who was getting pharmaceutical Var
was 60 tab @ 10mg and used 20 to 30mg a day thats all you needed
with pharma Var like that but cost alot so now i have UG Var and just getting back in the gym, had stopped due to major back surgery of 6hrs on the table and i laid off the gym for 8 months and put on alot of BF, now in the last 2 or 3 Wks i dropped 15lbs and have another 15 to go so im wondering if i shoud add Var in my Test & Deca cycle
and would it help in getting rid of more BF ? If anyone could give some info. Oh im eatting clean and will Var help ?

Wait a second..... you said you knew a guy, then you said "so now I...? indicating you were that guy,,.... Say it ain't so?,,...

just messing with you, lol.

[Marlo Stanfield]

Wait a second..... you said you knew a guy, then you said "so now I...? indicating you were that guy,,.... Say it ain't so?,,...

just messing with you, lol.

actually good point

but to the poster of that question, anavar does help get rid of fat... if you stack it with test , it will deffinately help speed up the process

[Overload]

That would be the worst, thinking you are doing anavar and turns out to be d-bol, especially leading up to a show. With a low carb, low sodium diet and other good compounds like tren, it would be hard to know unless you have a lot of experience using it.

Very true.

This is the main reason why myself and some other mods recommend real HG products if you can get them. The price difference isn't that much depending on who you know and you are more likely to get legit product this way. Back when i competed in bodybuilding i always used HG during show prep even if i had to pay $11 an amp for Primo. This is just my opinion of course, but i think a lot of competitors have issues leading up to a show due to fake products or mislabeled products. Not saying this is always the case, but i think it's a valid point to make based on who i've spoken with and done myself.

I don't have an issue with UGL products or generic GH as i use them myself these days(i also don't compete anymore), but i think if you want the best show prep you better know what you are taking.

I've heard of counterfeit T3 out of Pakistan containing a mild diuretic. Now that is very scary.

Just my .02

[Overload]

That is an excellent and really NEW kind of way at looking and advising...

'I am poor and living on the street, give me some money for breakfast' and somebody answers 'it is BAD for you to live on the street, you should really eat breakfast, its not healthy to go without breakfast...'

We all KNOW it is better to get PharmGrade. This is no secret only a few mods know. My little baby sister of 5 months knows it! So by saying this what purpose does it serve?

Most do not have the funds or the connections or both to get pharmgrade AAS let alone pharmgrade GH. Telling 99% of the people 'its better to have a home then to sleep in a tent' does not really help them, now does it?

Concentrate on selecting and promoting good sources of AAS and HGH and not just on pharmgrade. This is just not realistic and simply very repetitive.

I never said it was a secret, it's called my opinion and i was responding to a real competitor's post, not yours.

Take it or leave it, i don't care two shits what you think to be honest.

This isn't a source board. It's a discussion board.

[OTHstrong]

Very true.

This is the main reason why myself and some other mods recommend real HG products if you can get them. The price difference isn't that much depending on who you know and you are more likely to get legit product this way. Back when i competed in bodybuilding i always used HG during show prep even if i had to pay $11 an amp for Primo. This is just my opinion of course, but i think a lot of competitors have issues leading up to a show due to fake products or mislabeled products. Not saying this is always the case, but i think it's a valid point to make based on who i've spoken with and done myself.

I don't have an issue with UGL products or generic GH as i use them myself these days(i also don't compete anymore), but i think if you want the best show prep you better know what you are taking.

I've heard of counterfeit T3 out of Pakistan containing a mild diuretic. Now that is very scary.

Just my .02

I have to agree with you here, if I compete again it has to be for competitive reasons, in other words I have to win. Cannot risk something like this. Tren , prop, masterone and eq can be ugl but my VAR has to be Pharm grade during contest prep no matter what it costs.

[Marlo Stanfield]

Why do you think I want this to be a source board? I have enough sources for what I need and need no more.

I was also making a remark about your remark--->thats a discussion!

And very nice of you to say you dont give a shit what I think or have to say!

Excellent example of a MOD on a forum DEPENDANT of forum members posting their OPINIONS!

I see you have a very FINE view of your fellow members!

Well done for the person also who allows this kind of MODERATOR behaviour...

Hey bro, no offence, but we get it, you and OL dont see eye to eye... 2-3 threads have been locked out as a result... just agree to disagree...

yes this is a discussion board, but at some point you have to realize that you guys wont see eye to eye ( whether you want to call it having different philosophies, different agendas or whatever)...

the topic here is anavar, i for one will take you more seriously and show you more respect if you had actually ANSWERED the original questions in the thread before coming here and nitpicking at something a mod here said..

[Overload]

Why do you think I want this to be a source board? I have enough sources for what I need and need no more.

I was also making a remark about your remark--->thats a discussion!

And very nice of you to say you dont give a shit what I think or have to say!

Excellent example of a MOD on a forum DEPENDANT of forum members posting their OPINIONS!

I see you have a very FINE view of your fellow members!

Well done for the person also who allows this kind of MODERATOR behaviour...

All you do is argue and i don't have time for it. It doesn't matter what i say you will try to pick me apart because you take what i say out of context and make it fit your role. In fact, most of what you say doesn't even have any relevance to this discussion at all.

Stay on topic and contribute to the board like you used to. You remind me too much of apply85 and annoy me, just being honest.

As far as the accusations, all i said was there is proof to be found if you know where to look. The gig is up, these debates are over, no more "scammer/gh15/agenda/dealer" nonsense. It's all over, i have said my peace and will leave it at that. If you have an issue with me fine, just stop attacking me, i will not answer a single question about kigs or gh15 ever again. I'm trying to get this board back on track and that's why i locked the thread. I understand you are mad, but if i posted the proof that i have i would be the next mod with a bounty on my head and i have too much at stake in my life to have a bunch of kids tracking me down and posting my info everywhere. I have nothing to hide, i'm just sick and tired of people like you stirring up shit when they have absolutely no clue what they are dealing with.

Let's move on dude, i'm not here to debate your personal issues with me. I have no qualms with you, just leave the bullshit on that other board as i will not allow any of it ever again. I have no beef with those guys anymore, it's all over as far as i'm concerned. They have tried to ruin some of my friend's lives and i'm not happy about that, but i know who is behind all this and want no part of it.

I'm not responding again, take this as you wish. I could have easily deleted everything but i have left it up to the the people decide and i've tried to let you have free speech.

I'm done, let it go.

[Marlo Stanfield]

Did you SEE he said he doesnt give a shit about what I think?

That is a plain attack to a boardmember without reason. BIG difference with not seeing eye to eye!

So on one hand you say that you want to act like a grown up, and disagree with Overload, and your justification is that your "discussing" the matter with Overload, and this is an internet board, and "Discussing" is allowed... well i got news flash, this is the internet, and not giving a fuck about you ( which Overload made it clear) is also allowed

im suprised that a grown man like yourself who goes around here calling everyone "son" is acting like a lil bitch (no flame) here and saying "oh look everyone, did you see what overload did? he said he doesnt care what i say"... bro, i seriously have no beef against you, so dont take it as a flame, im just trying to make you see it from our perspective ( 90% of this board who have no horse in the gh15 vs Mods race)

The only reason I can think of for his ATTACK is that I asked for evidence of his accusations of another boardmember (or ex member). I think WE ALL should ask for evidence if ANYBODY is accused.

well, its no secret you adore gh15, and have the utmost respect for him... ever care to question the same about him ? gh15 has accused everyone on here for YEARS,and his proof is still yet to come... i agree that we should all ask for evidence, but i dont see you questioning gh15 and his cults in regards to their multiple accusations here..

[Marlo Stanfield]

Nice try putting me in a positing being favourable to GH15.

If you are so nice and fair pls go to the new GH15 board and READ my response to him offering 25THOUSAND dollard for info on WW.

Then come back and tell me I am partial of anyone or anything except the truth and fairness.

SON

lol, i was banned from the gh15 site, my registration was never approved, i sent apply85 the info...at first it said my registration is pending approval, and then it said username does not exist... ask him..


if you can, PM me what you wrote in response to that thread, would love to take a look at it

[NoMoreLies]

My response entails the same I ask of anyone: PROOF and EVIDENCE of accusations.

I am all for hunting down 'bad guys' but proof has to be given for any kind of validation from the forum, as the real life consequences could be significant.

I am not partial to GH15 and I have no idea how you got that idea. i respect many posters for many reasons.

I am however strongly partial to truth, fairness and equal rights.

Then why aren't you making public posts asking gh15 for proof of the claims he makes against WW, and others? Seems a little one sided to me. Instead you swing from gh15s nuts cause your scared of him. With all due respect of course.

[whitewidow]

My response entails the same I ask of anyone: PROOF and EVIDENCE of accusations.

I am all for hunting down 'bad guys' but proof has to be given for any kind of validation from the forum, as the real life consequences could be significant.

I am not partial to GH15 and I have no idea how you got that idea. i respect many posters for many reasons.

I am however strongly partial to truth, fairness and equal rights.

Bro you need to start making more money then think about how much better you would look! I mean hell if you go to the beach and people think you are their to do photo shoots on real human grade HGH and steroids everywhere you go people will think your like a movie star! You will have to buy alot of viagra you would be getting laid so often! just save up some money and tryy one kit of serostim or try 100IU's of humatrope and then come back here and tell us kigtropin is better. what is your long term goal? do you want to go pro? or do you just bodybuild to look good? I just do it to look good! I think the pro cycles are just to hard on the body and for the pay a bodybuilder makes not worth the risk. I know some pros. ask capriese murray he went pro spent a whole year trying to get a pro card and finally got one he did one show NY pro and placed 5th but scored high enough to compete in the olympia but knew he would not place well due to all the abuse it took him to go pro.

Then He went and got bloodwork and it was not looking good so he quit. he made a promise to his wife as soon as his health started to go downhill he would quit bodybuilding and he only got to do one show! He used Real human grade gear and of course synthol due to being prepped by john o' reagon. he didnt make much money most of his money came from writing for MD.so what is your goal are you this good? that is when he placed 5th in the NPC show back in 05. do you hang out with pros like known drug dealers like victor who gets human grade? starting on UGL and using UGL all your life wont get you to pro level. If you just want to look goog it will help. just wondering what your goal is? GH15 is not even a pro. hate to break it to you. I respect the person who told me and I will not reveal the PM but he is not a pro. that was a gimmick account used by many people why else was it active 24/7? you think you get more compliments then capriese did when he went out in a tank top and shorts?

[aesthetics]

That would be the worst, thinking you are doing anavar and turns out to be d-bol, especially leading up to a show. With a low carb, low sodium diet and other good compounds like tren, it would be hard to know unless you have a lot of experience using it.

when it comes to var and primo or other expensive and rare steroids, it's a necessity to go with a quality and trustworthy source.

i think d-bol is quite noticeable compared to every other oral, since it gives an overall sense of wellbeing, and if it's run alone it's quite easy to tell due to the sides being pretty distinct compared to var and why var rarely gets faked with dbol. if they're going to cut the var or fake it, it's almost always winny. it's a bit harder to initially realize unless people shed hair easily, since it's the only real distinct side that will happen within 1-2 days

[aesthetics]

Very true.

This is the main reason why myself and some other mods recommend real HG products if you can get them. The price difference isn't that much depending on who you know and you are more likely to get legit product this way. Back when i competed in bodybuilding i always used HG during show prep even if i had to pay $11 an amp for Primo. This is just my opinion of course, but i think a lot of competitors have issues leading up to a show due to fake products or mislabeled products. Not saying this is always the case, but i think it's a valid point to make based on who i've spoken with and done myself.

I don't have an issue with UGL products or generic GH as i use them myself these days(i also don't compete anymore), but i think if you want the best show prep you better know what you are taking.

I've heard of counterfeit T3 out of Pakistan containing a mild diuretic. Now that is very scary.

Just my .02

problem with HG is two-fold and why it's really the same issue as with ugl. 1.) you don't know where you're really getting your HG product from and HG products get faked at a much, much, much higher rate than UGL - who fakes ugl lines? no one, really. 2.) it all comes down to the source: like with UGL products, without a trustworthy source, he may be selling quality HG in one order, rat piss in another, or faked HG that's actually UGL, and no one would be the wiser.

it always comes down to how reliable the source is, every time. the source makes or breaks champion bodybuilders, it's really true.

[whitewidow]

Who say I am not allready making a lot of money? You assume too much.

I dont need Viagra, I got proviron, tren and natural test for this. NEVER had libido problems and women problems. Before I ever stepped in a gym girls liked me. Now the same.

I stopped training completely for YEARS and girls liked me and I fucked them all the time. Nothing new there.

I do this because I like it.

Serostim? I dont have any connections selling pharmgrade and it is too expensive. Pay for my pharmgrade and I will come and speak about it here.

Until then Rips and Kigs are THE SHIT!

the kigs are bunk! they are shit! Not the shit! I asked what is your goal? do you want to go pro? do you think you have what it takes? look at capriese and tell me you are that good and remember her that bottom picture is a NPC contest where he placed 6th, He knows victor well he is well known for using human grade so I am sure he hooks his his little brother up! I got women before I lifted weights but you said you had to beat them off with a stick and when you went to the beach people thought you were doing a photo shoot or were some movie star-LOL. look at capriese put him on that same beach and you would disappear!! Cap is on Human grade in those pics. And he looks better then you will ever look. I just want to k ow if you bodybuild for fun or if you plan to go pro. If you plan to go pro. You need to make more money and stop using bunk HGH and underdosed gear contaminated with god knows what!dog piss for all you know. now you talk about rips. those are ok but have alot of inpuritys better then bunk kigs though!

[whitewidow]

problem with HG is two-fold and why it's really the same issue as with ugl. 1.) you don't know where you're really getting your HG product from and HG products get faked at a much, much, much higher rate than UGL - who fakes ugl lines? no one, really. 2.) it all comes down to the source: like with UGL products, without a trustworthy source, he may be selling quality HG in one order, rat piss in another, or faked HG that's actually UGL, and no one would be the wiser.

it always comes down to how reliable the source is, every time. the source makes or breaks champion bodybuilders, it's really true.

You will know if someone has fake human grade! If they have a shit-load of it it is a knockoff! you wil only be able to get small amounts of human grade gear and HGH. I would be very suspicious if someone had aot of human grade Test or Deca. a few 10ml vials I can see but if someone breaks out a shitload of it def a scam. But I have see nurses jack alot of real Human grade gear so who knows!It is pretty easy to tell if you have real human grade USA gear. YOu have to know the person who ngets it prescribed or the scam used to gget it. like this dirty nurse I used to know who had a shitload of it.

[breakmore]

Yes i realize that Anavar has probably been discussed here a bunch , figured i'd start a new thread, and people post their latest experiences

1)Have you used it?
Yes, about 4-5 times in my short steroid using career.

2)what dosage? and what scheme ?(i.e. before workout? in the AM as soon as u wake u? split into AM and PM etc)
First one was also my first steroid cycle, was 40mg for 5 weeks or some shit like that.
Second was about  for 80mg 7-8 weeks or something.
Third was about 100mg-120mg 7-8 weeks.
Last time also about 80mg. Stacked with test e.
So most where standalone.

Time used during the day, depended on the dosing(usually just split in 2x morning, after dinner), in the end i was just popping them left and right , but i like to take a lot of them 1.5-2 hours before workout, sick pump.

3) whats results did you see?
i dont remember the couple of first ones anymore, but overall i would say it had the biggest effect on Strength, vascularity and losing fat while gaining kg or two. But mostly strength.

4) what other compunds where you running? or how do you know your results were truly because of anavar?
the 3th or 4th time i ran it with test, was a welcome addition. Currently on npp and sust, and contemplating on throwing some var in there again.

5) whats your verdict on this steroid? worth the extra money ? is it truly " a milder tren" ?
Never used tren before, verdict i dont know. I like it, mild steroid, never even once raised my liver values in anyway. Good for strength, good for joints, extremely mild on Hair!!!(For me atleast!) Good for burning fat (Some say it doesn't, but i am usually already on 10/11% and i got fucking lean with anavar without adjusting diet, everytime!)

So yes i like it, fairly expensive though. But will run  it again in a stack, love the pump and vascularity the most.

Answers in red

[supernick]

how does var compare to t bol or h drol???   afraid to take var because so many fakes and  dont want to be taking winny.   

[Marlo Stanfield]

how does var compare to t bol or h drol???   afraid to take var because so many fakes and  dont want to be taking winny.   

1) you wont get much sides ( bloat)
2) you wont blow up, but you will lean out and gain QUALITY muscle
3) the gains in muscle and loss in fat have been shown to be permanant... not like most steroids where as soon as u come off, you lose most of your gains

[Overload]

problem with HG is two-fold and why it's really the same issue as with ugl. 1.) you don't know where you're really getting your HG product from and HG products get faked at a much, much, much higher rate than UGL - who fakes ugl lines? no one, really. 2.) it all comes down to the source: like with UGL products, without a trustworthy source, he may be selling quality HG in one order, rat piss in another, or faked HG that's actually UGL, and no one would be the wiser.

it always comes down to how reliable the source is, every time. the source makes or breaks champion bodybuilders, it's really true.

Always comes down to trusting your source. I agree 100%.

There are a ton of fake UGL out there, but i get your point.

I've had great results on UGL gear, but i've also gotten sick from taking 20mg of Dbol from a relatively well known source.

You are right, most HG gear on the black market is counterfeit and you never know what you are getting.

Everything i'm on right now is UGL and i'm loving it. I'm not bad mouthing UGL, but based on the sources i've spoken with, sometimes they don't even know what powder is which and often get mislabeled powders. These are top guys who are private and you rarely hear complaints about their gear, but they were honest enough to tell me that.

I'm with you though, unless you get it yourself from a pharmacy, you really can't be 100% sure what it is. Just in my experience i have had zero issues with HG gear and a bunch of issues with UGL gear, even from the best guys in the game. Every source messes up now and again, but the good ones will make it right once you contact them.

[El Diablo Blanco]

very hard to find legit.  The people that tell you they gained 5 pounds in a week are the people that got pills with maybe 10% var and 90% dbol in it.

The raws are some of the most expensive out there and when people sell it cheaper than test which raws are way cheaper you know something is up.