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Facebook - the IPO will change it / getting sued
« on: May 18, 2012, 07:08:53 AM »
I'm afraid that far too many unsophisticated retail investors are going to get hammered by this company. Time will tell.

4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
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Get ready for the Facebook feeding frenzy. On Thursday afternoon, the company priced its initial public offering at $38 a share, giving it a market value of $104 billion. The stock begins trading Friday on the Nasdaq.

The result for Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook employees, and early investors is clear. The IPO will make many billionaires and countless others millionaires.

But what about the rest of us? How will Facebook as a publicly traded company affect everyday users who just want to know what's going on with their friends and family? While any answer to these questions involves speculation, it's a good bet that Facebook's IPO will change Facebook.

Here are four ways users may experience this change firsthand:

1. More ads. Facebook makes most of its revenue through advertisements. As a public company, management will experience pressure from the press and investors to meet quarterly numbers. More than that, its hefty IPO valuation will demand phenomenal growth of both revenue and net income. While Facebook would do well to diversify its income streams, it's a sure bet that part of its strategy will involve enhanced ad revenues.

Google offers a good history lesson. Anyone who has used the search giant is probably aware that Google inserts paid advertisements above the search results and to the right of the search results. What you may not have noticed is that the number of those ads has steadily increased over the years as Google looks for more growth. In fact, in the last year or so, Google has even started inserting ads promoting its own content in highly sought after verticals such as credit cards, banking, and mortgages.

Exactly how this ad growth may affect Facebook users is unclear. But we are likely to see more commercialization of our Facebook pages.

2. New mobile. Mobile users of Facebook account for nearly 50 percent of its user base. According to its S-1 filing with the SEC, Facebook had 488 mobile users in March. With the growth of the smartphone and tablet markets, more Internet users are going mobile than ever before. So why is that a problem for Facebook?

The problem comes in the form of revenue: Facebook doesn't make any from mobile. Some have predicted that Facebook will introduce ads into its mobile platform. That's certainly a possibility. What is certain is that Facebook will be looking to monetize its mobile platform in one way or another. If done right, it should enhance the user experience. If done wrong, it could mean just more annoying ads.

3. Less privacy. A lot has been written about Facebook's IPO and user privacy. What we haven't seen is much in the way of specifics. Exactly how or why would going public have any effect on privacy?

The answer is simple: ad revenue. Google gets the benefit of our searches to present us with relevant ads. If you are looking for "Nike Zoom Ja Fly" running shoes, Google can present paid ads for exactly that. But Google is a search engine; Facebook is not. Google has the benefit of knowing in real-time exactly what we are looking for.

Perhaps that's why Google generates about seven times more revenue per user than does Facebook. Google generates about $9.52 per monthly user, while Facebook generates just $1.32. And that's a big problem for Facebook.

One solution would be to improve its ad platform. To do that, it may turn to more user data. If done correctly, the result could be positive for users. Relevant ads that don't overwhelm the content can be helpful. Taken too far, however, and the results could be disastrous.

4. Facebook-generated content. If the above potential changes at Facebook are speculation, this one can safely be categorized as wild speculation. But it seems that Facebook-generated content, in contrast to the user-generated content that dominates now, has tremendous potential if executed correctly.

Currently, Facebook has a wealth of data that is largely untapped. Putting aside privacy concerns for a moment, one wonders if Facebook could enter markets now dominated by the likes of Groupon, Craigslist, and Yelp in ways no other company could. Facebook would need to leverage the information already tucked away in more than 900 million Facebook pages. But if it could do so in a way that made our lives better without compromising privacy, the potential is virtually unlimited.

Imagine Facebook-created content about local events powered in part by user-generated content stripped of any data that would give rise to privacy concerns. In some cases, Facebook could choose to generate its own content; in other instances, it may choose to partner with existing technologies and brands. But either way, the income potential makes me wonder if this isn't in Facebook's future. Time will tell.

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2012, 07:10:03 AM »


LOL @ Facebook being worth of 104 billion dollars  ;D ;D


Imagine how many aircraft carriers one could build with that money  :P

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2012, 07:54:26 AM »
Facebook = theglobe.com Part II

No 1 is a joke.  People don't search Facebook for products and services.  To date their targeting engine still can't serve the correct ads to users. In 5 years it's toast.  I'd cash out like Mark Cuban did with Yahoo.

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2012, 07:59:58 AM »
lol at privacy.  If anyone thinks that Jewkerberg is  not selling all of your information to all of his Jewish friends who own media companies and such then I have an ocean front property in Cleveland to sell you.

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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2012, 08:27:50 AM »
lol at privacy.  If anyone thinks that Jewkerberg is  not selling all of your information to all of his Jewish friends who own media companies and such then I have an ocean front property in Cleveland to sell you.

the ones who have doubts can just gander the "ads" that show on their page ... privacy from a social network is ridiculous expectation

the amount of people who have WILLINGLY typed out private information on those sites deserve their lives impacted

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2012, 08:32:38 AM »
I wonder how many of the rich hating 99% are going to invest in FB with hopes of becoming part of the 1%? Haha.

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2012, 08:34:07 AM »
I wonder how many of the rich hating 99% are going to invest in FB with hopes of becoming part of the 1%? Haha.

don't these 99% use facebook to post their rants?  Wonder how they feel now using this elitist site.

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2012, 08:38:02 AM »
don't these 99% use facebook to post their rants?  Wonder how they feel now using this elitist site.

Yup, LOL.

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2012, 08:42:43 AM »

LOL @ Facebook being worth of 104 billion dollars  ;D ;D


Imagine how many aircraft carriers one could build with that money  :P


i know. fucking pathetic isn't it!!

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2012, 09:04:27 AM »
No the 99 percent don't invest in the stock market scam.  They know better and know all the top players control the game with insider trading.  It's all a setup, if you on the bottom good luck like with a casino. 

Facebook will be just like myspace and anything else that is cool on the internet, it may outlast myspaces lifespan by a little with all the extra work that is going into it, but with today's generation it's all about being new and cool, and facebook's coolness has ran out for many people already, just new users who haven't seen it over the world think it is cool since it's the first time they have seen the site.  Eventually they will figure out it's a waste of time too.

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2012, 09:39:10 AM »
I don't understand Facebook.  With all the concern today about identity theft, why the fuck do people put all their personal information on the internet?

And would you search for information on FaceBook when you already have google? 


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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2012, 09:48:04 AM »
I don't understand Facebook.  With all the concern today about identity theft, why the fuck do people put all their personal information on the internet?

And would you search for information on FaceBook when you already have google? 


People are all about "themselves", they are wrapped in their own little worlds, where they are their own gods, kings, queens in charge of their own little Fiefdoms. It's all about "look at me, I want everybody's attention" 

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2012, 09:52:06 AM »
as of march, fb only had 488 mobile users???

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2012, 10:23:26 AM »
i've never clicked or even read a banner ad on Facebook, i still dont have an instagram account and dont plan too....

I'm really thinking of shutting that shit down, all my friends have gotten stale and my GF is always saying im being rude and offensive on it  ???  Im not even going 20%GB on FB :-\

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2012, 10:54:27 AM »
i've never clicked or even read a banner ad on Facebook, i still dont have an instagram account and dont plan too....

I'm really thinking of shutting that shit down, all my friends have gotten stale and my GF is always saying im being rude and offensive on it  ???  Im not even going 20%GB on FB :-\

20% getbig is like 1000% percent on any other site.

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2012, 11:10:47 AM »
20% getbig is like 1000% percent on any other site.

 ;D

made a high school friend shut down his account cus of it, i blasted his ass about him always checking into Golds Gym every day and looking like a planet fitness gym rat 

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2012, 11:13:27 AM »
People are all about "themselves", they are wrapped in their own little worlds, where they are their own gods, kings, queens in charge of their own little Fiefdoms. It's all about "look at me, I want everybody's attention" 

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2012, 11:16:47 AM »
Wont affect me at all I don't have an account  8)

the whole concept just seems utterly redundant to me , the first time I head about Facebook was years ago when you needed a college email address to join , it is mindblowing just how big they got almost a billion people  :o


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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2012, 11:21:42 AM »
People are all about "themselves", they are wrapped in their own little worlds, where they are their own gods, kings, queens in charge of their own little Fiefdoms. It's all about "look at me, I want everybody's attention" 

Which is why anyone over the age of 16 with a Facebook account is a loser.   ::)

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2012, 11:38:50 AM »
Wont affect me at all I don't have an account  8)

the whole concept just seems utterly redundant to me , the first time I head about Facebook was years ago when you needed a college email address to join , it is mindblowing just how big they got almost a billion people  :o



I doubt that whole 900 million thing.  You'd think that the majority would be americans.  So worldwide about 1 in 7 people but in America 1 in 2 or 3. But it seems that almost everyone I talk to at work don't have an account or care about facebook.  Makes me think it is possibly 10-50 million real people and 850 million Alex23 gimmicks.

One guy wanted to know what is would take to get 1000 followers on twitter, so he signed up and such and said that maybe 50 were real people and the rest were spammer accounts trying to sell you shit.

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2012, 11:47:11 AM »
interesting results so far. launched at $38, peaked at $45 currently down at $40.11.

Check it out  live, hoping it drops like a stone...

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/fb


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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2012, 11:52:23 AM »
It is not worth that at all... Completely overblown IPO.

Zuckerberg will make a keen mint though.

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2012, 11:55:45 AM »
5 mintes later its at $40.03

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2012, 11:56:44 AM »
I doubt that whole 900 million thing.  You'd think that the majority would be americans.  So worldwide about 1 in 7 people but in America 1 in 2 or 3. But it seems that almost everyone I talk to at work don't have an account or care about facebook.  Makes me think it is possibly 10-50 million real people and 850 million Alex23 gimmicks.

One guy wanted to know what is would take to get 1000 followers on twitter, so he signed up and such and said that maybe 50 were real people and the rest were spammer accounts trying to sell you shit.

if you log-in once a year, then that's considered an active account. i have 3 gimmick accounts i use once every couple of months but i never click on an ad link, because the targeting is bullshit.  good luck on this ipo.  

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Re: 4 Ways the IPO Will Change Facebook Forever
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2012, 11:58:35 AM »
if you log-in once a year, then that's considered an active account. i have 3 gimmick accounts i use once every couple of months but i never click on an ad link, because the targeting is bullshit.  good luck on this ipo.  

I've personally created about 30-50 accounts.  Only to get coupons when sites make you go to their facebook page.  I don't remember the previous account I made I just make up new one.  Now I don't even bother anymore when I see they make you go to facebook to login.