Author Topic: Mayhem fired & possible Lesnar return (Read 10165 times)

GraniteCityDon · « **on:** May 27, 2012, 02:19:13 PM »

C/O Yahoo

UFC president Dana White is done with Jason "Mayhem" Miller. After losing to C.B. Dollaway in a bout that was booed for being less-than-thrilling and an unknown backstage incident, White said Miller is no longer with the UFC.

White wouldn't say what the incident was except to say it was nothing physical.
"Mayhem's done. He's gone," White said, adding that the incident was "just some bulls--t that I don't want to talk about. We're on a crazy string here of dumb bulls--t."

Miller fought in the UFC early in his career but then moved to Japanese promotions and to Strikeforce. He returned to the UFC with a coaching stint on "The Ultimate Fighter" that was followed by a bad loss to Michael Bisping.

White was also not happy with Miller's playful entrances for the weigh-in and his fight. Miller brought a pink boa and boom box to the weigh-in, and wore a paper bag out to the Octagon on Saturday.

"When you get embarrassed the way he did against Michael Bisping, then you show up in that pink whatever that thing was, I'm not into that stuff," said White. "It's not my thing. I guess I don't really care if guys do it because you see it at weigh-ins all the time. Just take this thing serious. If you want to be a clown do that stuff on your reality show."

Miller is the host of MTV's Bully Beatdown, a show that allows bullied teens to get their comeuppance against their tormentors via a trained fighter. He leaves the UFC with an overall record of 23-9, and no wins in the UFC

Dana has also been commenting on the possibility of a Lesnar return after 'Mania

At the UFC 146 post-show press conference, Dana White was asked whether there was anything to Lesnar being at the show. He responded, "maybe" and smiled. White said, "He was here, I think that says it all." He said Brock Lesnar contacted him and requested to meet with him at the UFC event face to face. When asked directly if Lesnar could be returning to UFC and responded, "Possibly, yeah."

Shockwave · « **Reply #1 on:** May 27, 2012, 02:46:34 PM »

Quote from: GraniteCityDon on May 27, 2012, 02:19:13 PM

C/O Yahoo

UFC president Dana White is done with Jason "Mayhem" Miller. After losing to C.B. Dollaway in a bout that was booed for being less-than-thrilling and an unknown backstage incident, White said Miller is no longer with the UFC.

White wouldn't say what the incident was except to say it was nothing physical.
"Mayhem's done. He's gone," White said, adding that the incident was "just some bulls--t that I don't want to talk about. We're on a crazy string here of dumb bulls--t."

Miller fought in the UFC early in his career but then moved to Japanese promotions and to Strikeforce. He returned to the UFC with a coaching stint on "The Ultimate Fighter" that was followed by a bad loss to Michael Bisping.

White was also not happy with Miller's playful entrances for the weigh-in and his fight. Miller brought a pink boa and boom box to the weigh-in, and wore a paper bag out to the Octagon on Saturday.

"When you get embarrassed the way he did against Michael Bisping, then you show up in that pink whatever that thing was, I'm not into that stuff," said White. "It's not my thing. I guess I don't really care if guys do it because you see it at weigh-ins all the time. Just take this thing serious. If you want to be a clown do that stuff on your reality show."

Miller is the host of MTV's Bully Beatdown, a show that allows bullied teens to get their comeuppance against their tormentors via a trained fighter. He leaves the UFC with an overall record of 23-9, and no wins in the UFC

Dana has also been commenting on the possibility of a Lesnar return after 'Mania

At the UFC 146 post-show press conference, Dana White was asked whether there was anything to Lesnar being at the show. He responded, "maybe" and smiled. White said, "He was here, I think that says it all." He said Brock Lesnar contacted him and requested to meet with him at the UFC event face to face. When asked directly if Lesnar could be returning to UFC and responded, "Possibly, yeah."

Oh lord no. Please, no.

_bruce_ · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:39:36 AM »

Yes - that unnerving bitch is gone.

GraniteCityDon · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2012, 12:26:37 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on May 27, 2012, 02:46:34 PM

Oh lord no. Please, no.

Now that he has the F-5 mastered again aint nobody standing in his way!

Eric15210 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2012, 02:45:42 PM »

Miller is so overrated would have let him go for lousy matches

gracie bjj · « **Reply #5 on:** May 29, 2012, 11:33:27 AM »

im not a miller fan or nothing but cb just held him down and held him against the fence. at least miller was trying to finish the fight, the ref did a lousy job imo. im all for takin the fight to the ground but the fighter has to stay active and try to finish it with either gnp or a sub

King Shizzo · « **Reply #6 on:** May 29, 2012, 02:51:23 PM »

Lesnar is a joke. If he comes back, it's just proof that Dana doesn't give a shit about the sport.

gracie bjj · « **Reply #7 on:** May 30, 2012, 08:47:42 AM »

Quote from: shizzo81 on May 29, 2012, 02:51:23 PM

Lesnar is a joke. If he comes back, it's just proof that Dana doesn't give a shit about the sport.

agreed, lesnar cant take getting hit. dana wants him back so the wrestling fans will buy up some more ppv,s. at the end of the day danas about money and will put brock in the title mix in a heartbeat

King Shizzo · « **Reply #8 on:** May 30, 2012, 09:02:33 AM »

Quote from: gracie bjj on May 30, 2012, 08:47:42 AM

agreed, lesnar cant take getting hit. dana wants him back so the wrestling fans will buy up some more ppv,s. at the end of the day danas about money and will put brock in the title mix in a heartbeat

He would never win another fight imo. Everyone knows how to beat him now. Just give him a few solid strikes, and he gives up. Even Mir would beat him now.

coltrane · « **Reply #9 on:** May 30, 2012, 10:51:20 AM »

The problem with Lesnar in my opinion is that they fed him to the dogs too quickly. They should've had him fight more lower calibre fighters before giving him the title shots and top 5 guys... You know, build up his skills a little better.

Personally he needs more confidence and striking work to hang.

King Shizzo · « **Reply #10 on:** May 31, 2012, 07:41:48 AM »

Quote from: coltrane on May 30, 2012, 10:51:20 AM

The problem with Lesnar in my opinion is that they fed him to the dogs too quickly. They should've had him fight more lower calibre fighters before giving him the title shots and top 5 guys... You know, build up his skills a little better.

Personally he needs more confidence and striking work to hang.

I disagree. They gave him some jap can, Heath Herring, He lost to Mir, and a punch drunk Couture. How easy do you want him to go?

coltrane · « **Reply #11 on:** May 31, 2012, 08:27:12 AM »

Quote from: shizzo81 on May 31, 2012, 07:41:48 AM

I disagree. They gave him some jap can, Heath Herring, He lost to Mir, and a punch drunk Couture. How easy do you want him to go?

The guy had ZERO fighting experience prior to UFC (i'm not counting his one fight against the jap can).

Most fighters start in lower level mma orgs and work their way up, gaining fight experience along the way before entering the big time, ie. UFC at this point.

If Lesnar was serious about fighting (and not making money for himself and ufc) he would've had numerous fights in the lower eschelon orgs first.

King Shizzo · « **Reply #12 on:** May 31, 2012, 09:23:04 AM »

Quote from: coltrane on May 31, 2012, 08:27:12 AM

The guy had ZERO fighting experience prior to UFC (i'm not counting his one fight against the jap can).

Most fighters start in lower level mma orgs and work their way up, gaining fight experience along the way before entering the big time, ie. UFC at this point.

If Lesnar was serious about fighting (and not making money for himself and ufc) he would've had numerous fights in the lower eschelon orgs first.

He probably had too big of an ego for that. Also Dana wouldn't make any money that way. Do you think Dana actually cares about the fighters? He is a perfect business man.

Shockwave · « **Reply #13 on:** May 31, 2012, 09:40:16 AM »

Quote from: shizzo81 on May 31, 2012, 09:23:04 AM

He probably had too big of an ego for that. Also Dana wouldn't make any money that way. Do you think Dana actually cares about the fighters? He is a perfect business man.

This.
Dana isnt in this for love of the sport - he'd go full on WWE if he though he could get away with it.
As someone else said, he's selling a brand name.

coltrane · « **Reply #14 on:** May 31, 2012, 11:41:28 AM »

That's why I said above "and not making money for himself and the UFC"

If he wanted to hang with the top 5 heavies, he shoulda done my route and gotten more experience. Dana certainly exploited him too quickly. SHould've sowed the seed and harvested the crops slower.

gracie bjj · « **Reply #15 on:** May 31, 2012, 12:33:04 PM »

all marketing, dana would sign an old and outta shape tyson tomorrow if he could. $$$$$$$

coltrane · « **Reply #16 on:** May 31, 2012, 12:36:54 PM »

Quote from: gracie bjj on May 31, 2012, 12:33:04 PM

all marketing, dana would sign an old and outta shape tyson tomorrow if he could. $$$$$$$

bingo.

(and i'd probably buy the ppv)

GraniteCityDon · « **Reply #17 on:** May 31, 2012, 03:57:33 PM »

Quote from: shizzo81 on May 31, 2012, 07:41:48 AM

I disagree. They gave him some jap can, Heath Herring, He lost to Mir, and a punch drunk Couture. How easy do you want him to go?

The jap can was his debut and was outside the UFC. Herring was a hell of a test for anyone at any stage of their careers and he mauled him (what a punch to start the fight), Mir got 1 lucky move off after being smashed to bits (still think it was a BS deduction by the ref) and was then obliterated in the rematch & Couture was the legit HW champ regardless of age etc, having dismantled Sylvia & Gonzaga. Brock earned the title and then showed his durability against Carwin but there is no way his operation didnt change him, even his most vicious detractors have to admit he was never the same man after he got sick. I think the early Lesnar showed what he could have been but we'll never know now.

Darren Avey · « **Reply #18 on:** June 07, 2012, 11:40:03 AM »

Dont know if this is true but the MMA coach at my gym Gary Banks reckons UFC are looking at a "freak show" Maruiz Pudz V Brock fight in about a year.

240 is Back · « **Reply #19 on:** June 08, 2012, 08:58:38 AM »

brock should just retire.

but he wont. we'll see him doing things for the next 12 or 15 years.

Geo · « **Reply #20 on:** June 08, 2012, 12:08:09 PM »

Lesnar will still kick 75% of the divisions ass !

GraniteCityDon · « **Reply #21 on:** June 08, 2012, 12:13:41 PM »

Quote from: Geo on June 08, 2012, 12:08:09 PM

Lesnar will still kick 75% of the divisions ass !

This. Ive said it on numerous occasions but you have the top 3 - 4 and then the rest, the difference in class is HUGE even at that level of fighting. If Mir was worth a title shot the Lesnar is still up there.

Krankenstein · « **Reply #22 on:** June 09, 2012, 05:08:54 AM »

Quote from: GraniteCityDon on May 28, 2012, 12:26:37 PM

Now that he has the F-5 mastered again aint nobody standing in his way!

He looked like shit at the end of his UFC stint....even more with his return to 'rastlin....and if/when he returns to the UFC he will be the Palumbo of it.

chaos · « **Reply #23 on:** June 09, 2012, 06:18:19 PM »

Whatever Lesnar was dealing with on the inside ruined him.

King Shizzo · « **Reply #24 on:** June 16, 2012, 02:02:56 PM »

Quote from: Hawk on June 14, 2012, 04:47:33 PM

Brock was only "coming back" if Frank Mir won the belt back against JDS.

I hope that this wasn't true. It would make Mir seem to be on the UFC's payroll. There is a reason why they don't tell you all of the money they pay these fighters.