Author Topic: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500  (Read 16667 times)

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Re: would you like to pay 9,500 to buy a sandow trophy?
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2012, 04:15:16 AM »
Interesting - seller is some dude with nearly 20,000 sales. Obviously not a former winner of the O unless they're selling it on his behalf. Probably just a replica in which case it's pretty worthless..

20 k in sales.....that is a lot of underwear sold on ebay! used or not

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2012, 05:39:31 AM »
This looks like a replica, not one that was given out.  At the Weider offices in Woodland Hills, a few of these were in some of the offices.  With the inscription saying Muscle Builders Magazine (1953 to 1980), this looks an extra copy of one of the older Sandows given out that was kept.


Then its basically worthless since it was never one of the Sandows earned by a Mr Olympia.  I wonder who the seller is and why are they doing it for???  Something's wrong here
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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2012, 05:55:25 AM »
So Muscle builder magazine lasted until 1980, interesting cause it wasn`t until 1980 when they handed out the first Sandow at the Olympia

First Sandow was awarded to Zane in 1977.

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2012, 05:55:44 AM »
I predict Shawn , Flex , Kevin and Nasser will be getting into a bidding war for this



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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2012, 05:58:55 AM »
Someone with an ebay account should ask the question about the history of this thing. Was it won in a contest or was it sold thru the magazine for $19.99.

He will have to either make up a story about who the seller is or admit it's woth a fraction of what he's asking for it.


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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2012, 06:04:03 AM »
Is that trophy made out of Gold, Platinum or Diamonds? Because frankly, I can't see that trophy being worth more than $100.

It looks more like a collector's item.

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2012, 06:15:59 AM »
The seller is is a known dealer in this sorta thing, especially printed matter.

I think what's happening here is that the seller might not have an idea what these should go for, or might only have a vague idea, so he's hoping to catch a good offer with the "or Best Offer" Ebay tab. You see it a lot with collectibles, you set the price high on the supposed rare and wanted item, and some goofball in a fit of lust offers you way more than market for it. Realistically, I'd figure it would go for $500 - 1000 if left as a stand alone auction.

I doubt anybody, minus Arnold could get anywhere close to that for a Sandow real or replica.

For instance, here is a site that deals in vintage awards from far more popular sports and many things are under even 1/2 the Sandow's asking price  -


http://www.championship-rings.net/default.asp .

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2012, 06:45:31 AM »
Down at the bottom of this page, it was made mention that Weider sold better copies for $1,000 each in 1980, so maybe this is one of them -


http://www.physiquebodywareusa.com/pictureframe.asp?Sku=Sandow .

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2012, 07:26:21 AM »
So, how much would an earned Sandow go for from a former Mr. O?  A few years ago some Oscar statues went for more than a million before the Academy put a stop to their sale.

I'm guessing a real Sandow would go for $10-30k.

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2012, 07:33:42 AM »
So, how much would an earned Sandow go for from a former Mr. O?  A few years ago some Oscar statues went for more than a million before the Academy put a stop to their sale.

I'm guessing a real Sandow would go for $10-30k.

If you walked into a pawn shop and said, "I want to sell this Sandow won by Jay Cutler" they are going to look at you like you have 50 heads. For a pawn shop its about what they could sell, and most people are not going to want to buy a sandow. I highly doubt up to 30K

Huge difference between an Oscar and a Sandow lol
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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2012, 08:19:10 AM »
I think a Ronnie or Yates Sandow might do high 4 figures or maybe $10,000 to the right moneyed Schmoe, but it might take awhile.

Arnold's 1980 Sandow certainly would do great money, because of the crossover appeal and bodybuilding's importance to his life.

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2012, 08:30:29 AM »
I would sell a kidney to buy one of branch's AC trophies

Or his upcoming sandow

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2012, 08:31:57 AM »
Actually...

Branch probably needs a kidney, so maybe we can do a straight swap

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2012, 10:07:18 AM »
Someone should get one of these and try to get on the show Pawn Stars and bring it in with a bunch of bodybuilding mags. Would be hysterical to see the reaction from those guys. I'm guessing he wouldn't give more than 50bucks unless it was one of Arnold's sandows.

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2012, 10:18:11 AM »
ron should buy it and give it to the next Mr. getbig winner.

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2012, 12:38:03 PM »
First Sandow was awarded to Zane in 1977.

I stand corrected, I only thought that cause Arnold only had 1 and not seven but after I posted I realized oh shit, it could have been anywhere from 76 on. but you clarified 77 was the year, thanks

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2012, 02:30:48 PM »
I stand corrected, I only thought that cause Arnold only had 1 and not seven but after I posted I realized oh shit, it could have been anywhere from 76 on. but you clarified 77 was the year, thanks

Some people don't know that the very first Sandow was presented in 1901 in a london bodybuilding contest to a guy called William Murray. I think Sandow himself presented it to him. There was a gold, silver and bronze version for 1st 2nd and 3rd place.

In 1950, a copy of the original Sandow was presented to Steve Reeves for winning the Nabba Mr Universe.

I think Weider tried to buy one of the originl 3 sandows from the family of one of the 3 winners of the 1901 show in the 1970's but they wouldnt sell it at any price. They did lend  it to him in order for a copy to be made.  Think I read this in muscle smoke and mirrors volume 2.


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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2012, 02:32:51 PM »
Someone lost his job at the Weider offices..

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2012, 02:36:03 PM »
Some people don't know that the very first Sandow was presented in 1901 in a london bodybuilding contest to a guy called William Murray. I think Sandow himself presented it to him. There was a gold, silver and bronze version for 1st 2nd and 3rd place.

In 1950, a copy of the original Sandow was presented to Steve Reeves for winning the Nabba Mr Universe.

I think Weider tried to buy one of the originl 3 sandows from the family of one of the 3 winners of the 1901 show in the 1970's but they wouldnt sell it at any price. They did lend  it to him in order for a copy to be made.  Think I read this in muscle smoke and mirrors volume 2.




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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2012, 04:14:13 PM »
I sent the cat an inquiry on Ebay. My questions, their reply:

Me: Greetings- As a long time bodybuilding fan I find your Sandow very cool and quite interesting. Could you tell me a bit more about this particular trophies history?

Was it a trophy given to an actual winner?
Do you know what year this trophy was made?
Has it by chance been owned by a notable bodybuilding personality?

Thank you very much for your time.

Reply: I'm sorry we can not answer your questions, as we do not know who it belonged to.

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2012, 04:35:34 PM »
I sent the cat an inquiry on Ebay. My questions, their reply:

Me: Greetings- As a long time bodybuilding fan I find your Sandow very cool and quite interesting. Could you tell me a bit more about this particular trophies history?

Was it a trophy given to an actual winner?
Do you know what year this trophy was made?
Has it by chance been owned by a notable bodybuilding personality?

Thank you very much for your time.

Reply: I'm sorry we can not answer your questions, as we do not know who it belonged to.

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Tommy, could you ask him if it was given to a winner or if it was one of those replicas sold thru Musclebuilder back in the 70's? Joe wanted $999.95 for them i think.




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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #46 on: May 28, 2012, 06:35:31 PM »
If you walked into a pawn shop and said, "I want to sell this Sandow won by Jay Cutler" they are going to look at you like you have 50 heads. For a pawn shop its about what they could sell, and most people are not going to want to buy a sandow. I highly doubt up to 30K

Huge difference between an Oscar and a Sandow lol

If one is talking about bodybuilding it goes without saying that we are not talking about what interests "most people."  I am sure there are some hard core muscle fans out there who would want an earned Sandow.  Who you ask?  The sort of guy(s) that collect years worth of muscle magazines, muscle videos, attend expos, etc.  Aren't the premium seats an the O pretty pricey?  That's the audience I'm talking about.  In addition, there must be more than a few pro athletes (with real incomes) and other celebrities that follow BB enough to want a real Sandow if it went up for sale.  I don't patronize pawn shops so I will defer to your expertise on buying and selling in that venue.

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #47 on: May 28, 2012, 06:39:49 PM »
i bid 2 bits and an autographed photo of Ron in a speedo

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Re: On Sale - Sandow Trophy for $9,500
« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2012, 07:05:22 PM »
Tommy, could you ask him if it was given to a winner or if it was one of those replicas sold thru Musclebuilder back in the 70's? Joe wanted $999.95 for them i think.


The seller implied they new "nothing" about the trophy. My post above was the entire line of questioning and their answer.
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